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An interesting change in adult themes..Does anyone know of any research or surveys?

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I did some, "Dot Hopping" last night where I teleproted from large groups of dot to each other.  I noticed a very different world out that there than I had noticed in the past.  I don't get out much so, I can't say I really have my fingers on the pulse of the adult market in SL like I used to but what I noted was interesting and wanted to know if there was any real research on this or if anyone else had made the same observations as follows.

  • At least 50% of who I see out there are new with short names and rez dates less than a year old.
  • A much larger presence of openly gay men where I actually think they have always been there, just not playing men (if you get my drift).
  • Transgender themes have have exploded in size and popularity.  This was a rather quiet community that has grown to be among the most populated groups.  One of my RL clients is the largest in Tranny Sex Sites and he is seeing growth as well where much of the market is struggling.
  • Interracial groups, especially white women looking for black men.  Oddly, this is a declining area in online content but growing in SL.  Since the US consumes most of the porn in the world, and is normally the start of many trends, I often see SL to be a bit behind the "popular content" curve in SL.
  • Escorts and strip clubs have almost dropped off the map.  Those I found where nearly empty.
  • BDSM and Forced sex themes seem to have died off and those I see, are filled with noobs looking for sex, not role play.
  • Older men, younger women has stayed very consistent with a fairly consistant growth.  I see this as part the fantasy but moreover, that this is a great way to find a sugar daddy to spend money on you.  Nothing new here I guess but what I expected to see was more for Cougars where I see almost nothing in the Cougar or Milf theme.
  • CMNF is going as expected with actually some ok role play ideas but what I also expected to see grow would be the CFNM theme.  The online sites are doing well in this theme but I didn't see many in world or when I did any male strip clubs, they where empty.

Of course, these are all just observations from my own perception on one night.  I would be curious to see what anyone else has observed but moreover, if there have been an surveys on this.

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I agree that a large proportion of people in adult areas are fairly new, under a year old. Transgender/gender bending/futanari themes are also extremely popular right now, though I often wonder how many of those playing "shemale" or futanari characters are actually men who wanted to play as females but didn't want to lose their "man-parts." Force areas have always been a little hit and miss - you can find good roleplayers, but if you're just hanging around, you're more likely to get someone who's just trying to get as much sex as they can.

The "busty" areas are also fewer and less active than they used to be. (By "busty" I mean places for implant users and those who enjoy implants.) Overall it seems the more "specialized" interests are starting to drop off and be replaced by generic sex spots.

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Ariel Vuissent wrote:

Overall it seems the more "specialized" interests are starting to drop off and be replaced by generic sex spots.


I noticed this too and though we have always had these spots, they are really packed social clubs now. Not too much sex going on though there are sex toys all over, just no one using them. Something else I didn't mention was the decline in popularity of Nude beaches. They used to be all over and always packed.  Now it's just sand crickets and malls.

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Chelsea Malibu wrote:

BDSM and Forced sex themes seem to have died off and those I see, are filled with noobs looking for sex, not role play.

 

Yeah, it sure seems like that. Seems near impossible to find any sims with actual good RP that still have a bit of a forced sex-theme, that aren't just porn-ish hangout places for, as you say, mainly newbies. Midian pretty much died, and, well, I never kept much track of the other, human-only sims like Crack Den, so I have no idea. But I certainly don't hear much about those anymore. I've gotten the feeling that many of the RPers, who were in it more for the RP and less for the sex, have gotten bored of those themes.

RP in general seems to be doing worse in SL these days, but maybe I'm just being picky with what I'm looking for.

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I never knew there was an acronym for it (and was amused to find out about it, but hey.....SL is nothing but an acronym farm!) Im talking about CFNM, which I do feel is growing quite naturally but is simply part of other movements, so its not so obvious on its own. It might be telling that a lot of sisters I know just assume men are to be clothingless and never thought it had its own specific movement or trend. I dont have any statistics, but am thinking of hiring a statistician to track some of these movements. That could be fun!

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I know. And, Hard Rust has been trying for ages to get more RP going on his sim but no one seems to want to jump in.  I'm not really sure RP and Sex Sims are even synonymous anymore.

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Chelsea Malibu wrote:

I know. And, Hard Rust has been trying for ages to get more RP going on his sim but no one seems to want to jump in.  I'm not really sure RP and Sex Sims are even synonymous anymore.

I know right? *sighs* RP is not as fun without the raep...

So who is this Hard Rust and what kind of RP does he do?

 

Edit: Ah, nevermind, I looked it up. And yeah... to quote the website:

"Hard Alley now encourages and promotes SHORT-FORM ROLEPLAY.   This is RP based around a single session or "scene."  Your session could be a half-hour quickie or last all day long, but when it's over it's over and the parties involved move on.

 

Unlike other RP sims, Hard Alley wants you to get laid, and get laid in the dirtiest, perviest, nastiest way possible.  There are no long backstories to learn, no complicated internal politics, or tedious character histories.  Our goal is to give you an environment to act out a sexy scenario so that a good time will be had by all."

Probably not the sorta thing that most 'story first, sex second'-type RPers are looking for. I guess you just gotta pick one or the other as it is now, can't have both, apparently. Either long-term stories and a lot of writing, or places like Hard Alley.

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As someone with an older account (I've been active in SL for more than 6 years), I find I hardly ever go to the public sex venues any more. If I do, it is only to purchase things, and not to meet new people and RP with them. I have been around long enough that I know where to shop for the props and pose sets that suit my tastes, and I would rather use them in private, on my own land and only with invited guests present or able to cam into my area.

Also, the introduction of 16 and 17 year olds to the adult grid (and able to perv-cam from the G-rated sims to the neighboring M-rated sims) and the shut down of the teen grid (encouraging a lot of 13 to 17 year olds to simply lie about their age to continue playing in SL) has had a pretty chilling effect on the idea of "random pick-ups", even in the Adult sims. Too high a chance, for my liking, that the random person looking for a hook-up in a public venue, or someone nearby and watching, is not of legal age.

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Chelsea Malibu wrote:

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  • At least 50% of who I see out there are new with short names and rez dates less than a year old.

It mostly old residents still stuck on V1 that can't find Zindra / adult land. ;)

For anyone who joined since V2 - which is probably half or more of the grid by now due to how fast SL-turnoever is - and who didn't get 'pulled back down' by friends into V1, going to A-land is trivial, as the new search makes the distinctions clearer.

 


Chelsea Malibu wrote:
  • A much larger presence of openly gay men where I actually think they have always been there, just not playing men (if you get my drift).
  • Transgender themes have have exploded in size and popularity.  This was a rather quiet community that has grown to be among the most populated groups.  One of my RL clients is the largest in Tranny Sex Sites and he is seeing growth as well where much of the market is struggling.

As a native of San Francisco let me let you in a little secret:

Gay men don't really have much interest in women, except as chat-buddies. They're more into other men. Its what makes them gay... :D

The TG community notwithstanding; I've never met a gay man that wanted to be or look like a woman. I've met plenty of straight men though who did. Straight me, oddly enough, for some reason, are plain obsessed with women...

TG is a whole other cup of tea - call them by their bio-sex and claim they're gay or straight and be ready for a fight. My statement above does not include for them. There are a -lot- more of them online though, than 'in the street', as many are still suffering 'in the closet'. They're still very frequent targets of hate crimes...


Chelsea Malibu wrote:
  • Interracial groups, especially white women looking for black men.  Oddly, this is a declining area in online content but growing in SL.  Since the US consumes most of the porn in the world, and is normally the start of many trends, I often see SL to be a bit behind the "popular content" curve in SL.

Yeah... but most of this is of the 'blaxploitation' angle, and not real multi-racialism. So I, as a multi-racial person, consider it a big negative. Its just reinforcing that 'you mixed folks is just 'little brown f-machines' (said to me once in RL)...

 


Chelsea Malibu wrote:

 
  • Escorts and strip clubs have almost dropped off the map.  Those I found where nearly empty.

Not so profitable anymore, too easy to 'get it free' and even the noobs know this. ;)


Chelsea Malibu wrote:

  • BDSM and Forced sex themes seem to have died off and those I see, are filled with noobs looking for sex, not role play.

Visit the new Adult Hub, open the map, and look at the sims to the north. LOTs of them. Go to the sim directly north, the BDSM Hub sim, and look at the signs. The BDSM and D/s folks went to private estates more than to Zindra. They're still very big, they just mostly left mainland.

Despite them being a RL-squick for me (I have a lot of trouble dealing with any relationship that isn't rooted in equality - power structures are a problem for me, and even when I was in the military, I used to get written up almost weekly for being 'insubordinate'...), I've got a number of friends in tha 'lifestyle'. If I could handle being near it without getting physically ill in RL, I'd join them just to quadruple my social contacts...

 


Chelsea Malibu wrote:
  • Older men, younger women has stayed very consistent with a fairly consistant growth.  I see this as part the fantasy but moreover, that this is a great way to find a sugar daddy to spend money on you.  Nothing new here I guess but what I expected to see was more for Cougars where I see almost nothing in the Cougar or Milf theme.
  • CMNF is going as expected with actually some ok role play ideas but what I also expected to see grow would be the CFNM theme.  The online sites are doing well in this theme but I didn't see many in world or when I did any male strip clubs, they where empty.

These I know less about. I've begun looking at CMNF, though I want NMNF, at least in CMNF, when I feel the need, I can undress... :)

And as for the other one... to each their own. I had a sugar-daddy relationship in RL when I was 22, and I found it very stiffling - sure the toys are there, but I'm the kind of person who's happier homeless and free than rich in a cage - something I know as I was homeless when I was 20. But the older male / younger female -IS- the evolutionary norm for higher-primates, its popularity should suprise no one given the 'roles' the two sexes tend to fall into. Females are more fertile when young, and males can care for their mates better when older and established. Every troupe of females seeks a Silverback Ape, just as much as that Ape seeks a harem... we just don't like admitting it anymore.

 

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Nyx Karas wrote:

Yeah, it sure seems like that. Seems near impossible to find any sims with actual good RP that still have a bit of a forced sex-theme, that aren't just porn-ish hangout places for, as you say, mainly newbies. 


What baffles me is the lack of good adult RP that doesn't have a forced angle on it.

 

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Pussycat Catnap wrote:


Chelsea Malibu wrote:

  • BDSM and Forced sex themes seem to have died off and those I see, are filled with noobs looking for sex, not role play.

Visit the new Adult Hub, open the map, and look at the sims to the north. LOTs of them. Go to the sim directly north, the BDSM Hub sim, and look at the signs. The BDSM and D/s folks went to private estates more than to Zindra. They're still very big, they just mostly left mainland.

 

Is that actual roleplay though or just virtual sex without real plots and characters? And there's usually a big difference between D/s and BDSM, and non-consensual sex RP. Though the two tend to co-exist in the same areas... Just pointing that out.

And, by 'adult', do you mean sex? Because, yeah, may be true that there aren't a whole lot of 'vanilla' sex sims around... Hm. I'm sure there's a lot of regular sexing going on in those kink-sims too, but might be difficult for someone who wants to avoid certain themes. I imagine most mature RP sims work for that too though, if one is into other types of RP at all.

Oh, and what's the Adult Hub btw? o.O *is clueless, never leaves her RP sims or friends' parcels*

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Nyx Karas wrote:

Oh, and what's the Adult Hub btw?
o.O
*is clueless, never leaves her RP sims or friends' parcels*

Open your map and enter the world 'adult' as the sim name.

 

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Adult infohub.

Any infohub really.

Places on the map which have "Sex" in some form spelled out in prim letters so it shows up on the map.

 

It's just usually just really, really pathetic ie:

Rapid switching of poseballs with them going "lol" the whole time, no emotes, or emotes as plain chat, demands to get naked, and worse.

 

Quality doesn't come free, and rarely involves noobs. That doesn't mean that you have to pay for it, just that there is usually some sort of time or social investment either with a person or in relation to a sim. I mostly spend my time on the transformation side of the adult community which is limited to a handful of private sims so I see a different sort of activity, but do notice the same sorts of trends as other parts of the adult community. Sometimes these trends are even more pronounced because you see the same people bouncing from one themed sim to the next (or just making new accounts to start anew after a bad owner). Countless times I have seen people just drop to their knees the moment they get the impression that someone around is more dominant, often without a prior word, expecting to suddenly have things done to them just because they are there (regardless of what was happening before), or outright demand that something be done to them (only to relog and remove what was done, rinse, repeat). I would imagine that it is partly because of this dynamic that deeper play seems to be moving to less public venues.

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