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Are you dating a typist in SL or do you voice?

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Lately many of my discussions with my SL associates have been abuot dating some who doesn't use voice.  Having the avatar in 3D is certainly a step above a screenname but now that there is voice capability why isn't it the standard with most folks for dating? 

So I'm on this date and my partner says they don't voice but would like for me to get naked and have sex with them.  I don't know about the majority of ya'll but I am not an octopus.  I need my hands for other things when im self pleeasuring with the aid of voice and avatar.  Or should i sit behind my keyboard fully dressed while my avatar is naked and performing the act of sex with my uninvolved?

And what about a date?  Its nice to be all hugged up on a pose while spending time with your partner but can we go out on a date sometimes?  I know many of the elaborate locations in SL are great to see if you can deal with the lag.  But I've recently opened my land for a dating experience for all to enjoy no to low lag and fun adventure or relaxation.  View the thread below for details:

http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Favorite-Destinations/A-Fun-Place-for-A-Date-Free/m-p/1258455#M2266

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I'm not shy so, I'll speak up. 

Voice to me takes away from what SL really is.  I can have fun in RL and talk but in SL, it is the romance of the written words.  The articulation of the prose and the image it creates in my head.  You just can't do this with voice and to be honest, this is where men lack the most.  Primal grunts and repetitive "oh, baby's" are no different than someone emoting constant "mmmmmm"s. 

I was never thrilled about voice coming into SL and am still not thrilled about it.  I almost never use it even under normal business circumstances.  When I did use voice for some time, I found many just sat around and talked..And talked..And talked and really about nothing more than just to here themselves talk.  Men love to hear themselves talk.  I'm too type "A" for idle talk.

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I appreciate your perspective on the subject because I didn't consider that point of view.  I think I am targeting the aspect of sex and typing.  Of course I get that we read novels about sex and become aroused but it is not the same as "live" interaction.

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Ha, this question holds some beauty for me: at the time I met my to-be wife, I had a particularly bad bout of Repetitive Strain Injury in my hands. This was before we had inworld voice chat, so she asked me to get on Skype to be hands-free.

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Well, first of all, any "dating" my avatars do in SL is a fictional encounter between fictional avatars, and not an intimate interaction between myself and the other typist. Your post implies that anyone who is "dating" in SL is representing their avatar as a direct extension of themselves in real life. That may be the case for some people in SL, but the majority that I have ever known or heard of tend to use SL more to make characters that are NOT clones of themselves. 

My main avatar is a three tailed anthropomorphic vixen who speaks English with a slight French accent, but is also fluent in Japanese and several other languages. She's well over 700 years old, and immortal, but her in normal appearance you would guess her to be about 27 years of age.

I have another avatar that is a male Human, who speaks with a rather thick Scottish accent. He's in his late 30's in age appearance.

I have another avatar that is a female anthro Timberwolf about 25 years old, who has a sultry voice, and speaks with somewhat archaic turns of phrase, as she came from a medieval-level society.

I have yet another avatar who is a 14 year old male anthro fox, from a primitive, tribal society.

I am not the reincarnation of Mel Blanc. I can't do voice impressions for all those characters and make any of them sound the way I can say they sound when I communicate in text. I can't find voice morphing software that could make all of those characters sound even vaguely like they should. So Voice is worse than useless for me - it totally blows the believability of the character out of the water. Sort of like encountering a short-statured girl on a movie set, expecting a sweet, innocent voice, and hearing instead a deep male voice, because the actor is a male dwarf in drag who works as a stunt man for the child actress.

In text, I can write beautiful descriptive passages that set the scene and mood, describe scents and tastes and touch feelings, and cover for the actions that are impossible to portray with a pose ball or a spoken phrase in voice. How silly would it be, for example, for someone using Voice to state, "I reach out and carress your hair, feeling it's silky texture, and lean closer to enjoy the scent of your perfume"?

If someone is portraying their avatar as an attractive Lesbian cat girl, the last thing I want to hear is a man's voice coming from her. If someone is a handsome stud of a man, the last thing I want to hear is a girl's voice. For that matter, if they are portraying someone who is French, I don't want to hear some other nationality's accent in their real voice. I want to be able to accept the character as presented, just as I should be able to do when an actor presents a character in a play or movie. Who and what they are in real life doesn't matter to me.

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Torley Linden wrote:

Ha, this question holds some beauty for me: at the time I met my to-be wife, I had a particularly bad bout of Repetitive Strain Injury in my hands. This was before we had inworld voice chat, so she asked me to get on Skype to be hands-free.

ROFL....nice :)

 

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BTW, good post, I see this one getting a few comments and you even got Torley to post. 

And, to agree with Torley, I too met my significant other online but it was not in a game and it quickly grew to phone calls.  So I guess in the end, for a real relationship, voice is an imperative but my expectations for SL are in the fantasy of this world.

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Initially I was all about the fantasy (can't believe I said initially like I've been here forever) but I migrated to SL from Paltalk and voice is a major player there.  Of course nothing beats live video but I am not limited in motion in SL and enjoy the game as a whole.

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RikThistie you are such a button pusher.  Of course I've tried real life.  Gosh you slay me with your comments.

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I don't like to use voice and hardly ever use it myself. 

- Often there's people in the room with me, watching tv, listening to music and it's disturbing when I talk through that all the time. When I use a headset they'll only hear one side of the conversation. Not a pleasant experience! Even when I make a lenghty phonecall with a friend I walk out of the room to a quiet place.

-I do listen sometimes but I'll answer in text

-I hate to hear people munching away, talking with their mouth full, making weird noises and hear children asking for attention and crying in the background

-Apart from that, I hardly ever date.

-Fortunatly, we all have a choice in SL and everybody should do what's most comfortable for them.

 

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Anita61 Anatine wrote:. 

- Often there's people in the room with me, watching tv, listening to music and it's disturbing when I talk through that all the time. When I use a headset they'll only hear one side of the conversation. Not a pleasant experience! Even when I make a lenghty phonecall with a friend I walk out of the room to a quiet place.

 

That's a really good point that I forgot, and is tangentally connected to your thoughts too, Anita. I always ALWAYS have music on, and it's a very eclectic mix of Noize, Aggrotech and old-skool Industrial at its clearest, and an unrecognisable rabble of screaming, power tools and distortion at its worst. I have enough trouble finding people who'll listen to me already, without trying to shout to people over that. :P

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I'm here for some fun and escape from the real world with all its limits. My question is: Why do you want to date someone in a virtual world with an avatar, but want to hear the persons real voice?

Its the same with real life pictures that some guys want to have as a prove that the person behind the avatar is a real woman.

If you want real voices and see the real person: Go and find a date in the real world! :P

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Syo Emerald wrote:

I'm here for some fun and escape from the real world with all its limits. My question is: Why do you want to date someone in a virtual world with an avatar, but want to hear the persons real voice?

Its the same with real life pictures that some guys want to have as a prove that the person behind the avatar is a real woman.

If you want real voices and see the real person: Go and find a date in the real world!
:P

 

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ebutterfield wrote:

I don't know about the majority of ya'll but I am not an octopus.


 

It's called "taking turns", and any partner worth their salt will step up their game to fill in the voids that are created when the other person finds typing at that particular moment cumbersome. It's all part of creating an enjoyable shared experience that truly *is* enjoyable for both, not just one.

As for the OP, I just don't date voicers.. problem solved. For the very same reasons I don't care what someone looks like in RL, so do I not give a *bleep* what they sound like, and I'm not so needy that I'd trash my immersion just to make things "hands free easy" for them. In this area, either the puzzle pieces fit or they do not.

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There is an electromechanical device that completely solves the problem. It's USB powered and has a portion attachable to a human. I cannot recall the term the manufacturer used for the human attachable part, something like whee-fit. What's really cool is that it's dishwasher safe. When you're finished, just unplug the power cord and put in the silverware rack in your dishwasher.  With this device you can keep both hands free for computer use at all times. You use your mouse to control the power. 

 

 

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Ohhh voice... such a fantasy bust, I have voiced reluctantly with both friends and lovers.  Most happily with friends as the conversation flows freely.  Somehow with lovers its just awkward, I prefer to type... like the difference between receiving a hand written love note via post and a text message - its more sexy when its well written.

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I like this question.

My partner and i do chat on Skype from time to time, but mostly we communicate and emote in text.  We really enjoy that.  

We both emote in a similar style -- that is to say, we are both extremely verbose and like to write entire romantic paragraphs;  the same applies to the sexy stuff.    :matte-motes-big-grin:     I know the wordiness isn't to everyone's taste but that is what floats our shared boat.    :matte-motes-inlove:

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I like having both options. Sometimes I really love talking on voice with friends, somedays I just don't feel like talking so I prefer to type.

When I was single in SL, I didn't mind getting on voice with potential paramours to chat and talk casually, but I wasn't comfortable voicing with the more intimate stuff, because hello....didn't know them all that well. Typing forces you to be more creative lol. And for those who aren't terribly articulate (or just lazy) you can just buy some Xcite products and they'll post the cheesy lovechat text for you lol You can even get sex furniture that has both female and male sounds.

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I HATE HATE HATE people who use voice...it's unfair to most users, causes so many problems, alienates users of another language, and completely destroys rp's. Unless I am at an Opera or similar musical performance I see no real use for it whatsoever (other than perhaps a language lab or television show, etc. of course).

Personally, I think voice is only for rude lazy people with little imagination and poor spelling skills ;)

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Whu kares abut speling. It is no other then not talking in your native language and so pronounce words way wrong.

You either like or dislike voice (hating people for using voice is similar to hating people for taking a breath). For me it is all about not wanting to hear all background noises (and believe me you don't want to hear the produced noises on this side here). 

I tried voice once and it does not make sense to me. What I hear is in total contradiction to what I see.

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Six Igaly wrote:

For me it is all about not wanting to hear all background noises (and believe me you don't want to hear the produced noises on this side here).


That too!  Or when you hear their voice for the first time and it sounds terrible or not nearly as elegant as their avatar.  Sometimes, things are best just not known.

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Six Igaly wrote:

 It is no other then not talking in your native language and so pronounce words way wrong.


 

Maybe taking care about grammatical construction and presentation is more important than spelling, although I am not sure if that was the point you were trying to make, intentionally or otherwise, although it was effective.

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The best kiss I've ever had in SL was typed to me and left me speechless for what seemed ages.  I know I could relive that moment again and again by finding it in my chat log, but it still lingers in my mind to this this day.

My L$0.02

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