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I know women who use pictures of other women. And I know a man who gave out pics of a woman and said he was her. My friend found out when he saw this woman's pic on the internet. It really hurt him, b/c they were married in SL a year. And worse, this person showed up at his work in RL and told everyone in the office how he "loved this man."

I think we have to be careful. That said, I have shared pics and RL info, even FB some ppls here. I guess it depends on the relationship, but unless they Skype and show their face, I am inclined to be suspicious. But that is me.

If we set boundries, we should keep them. There are a lot of men who are very demanding about pictures and person info, and meeting. I personally think this is more a man thing. Women, by our nature, can live more freely in our imaginations. When I was unpartnered, I'd go dancing and that was the first thing men wanted to know. How old I was, where I lived, and if they could get a picture.  I was abandoned on the dance floor many times because I refused to budge with a total stranger.

Also, men often just gave me their pic without asking! The funny part of that, was few were really good looking!!! 

I have a gf in SL who uses her RL pic as a calling card. This is a priority for her. She wants pictures, and she wants to share them. That is her SL experience. I think I posted on another forum about a guy who was so demanding about pictures. I actually gave him one, long story b/c he was going to do graphic work for me, but he wasn't happy. He said he wanted another one. He was convinced I was a man!!! He just was over the top about me being a man. Pfft. I finally unfriended him and didn't use his services. I didn't follow my own damn advice! Go figure!

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Winter Galli wrote:

And I mean very. 

I said "En oh."

He told me that he didn't have to have a shot of my face in them, and no one would know. He insisted that everyone in SL does this. 

Really? Can anyone out there tell me they have taken pictures of the intimate parts of theiur bodies and mailed them throughout secondlife?

 

You can actually AR him just for asking...

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You can actually AR him just for asking...


I suppose she could assert that it falls under harassment as provided in the Community Standards. Specifically, that merely asking for such photos "constitutes unwelcome sexual advances or requests for sexual favors". However, at this point in their relationship, I don't think it's unwelcome. She actually welcomes sexual advances and requests for sexual favors, it's just that such pics exceed her RP boundaries. Many women expressly state their boundaries in their profile somewhere, either under their 2nd life tab if there is space, and if not, then in their picks or under the RL tab. My suggestion to her, would be to add this to her profile somewhere "no RL pics" and if appropriate "no voice or cam".

 

 

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Some people do, some people don't. At the end of the day, it's your decision, and yours only. The caveats and dangers have been pointed out. If he is a good guy, then he will accept a NO. Asking once, given the extent of the relationship, is not harrassment or an AR offence IMHO, but to keep asking after a No is.

I have a collection from guys, mostly make me laugh, but I have never given out intimate photos. In fact I very rarely give out ordinary pics of myself either.

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Pussycat Catnap wrote:

You can actually AR him just for asking...


I suppose she could assert that it falls under harassment as provided in the Community Standards. Specifically, that merely asking for such photos "constitutes unwelcome sexual advances or requests for sexual favors". However, at this point in their relationship, I don't think it's unwelcome. 

Its a TOS violation to start asking into someone's RL info. That's the AR grounds.

 

 

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Faye Feldragonne wrote:

And I know a man who gave out pics of a woman and said he was her. 

 

For all she knows, THIS is why he's asking. His alt could be a stripper/escort or have in her profile that she sells her RL pix. The odds of the alt and the OP running into each other and her finding out by seeing one of said pix are negligible. Many female av stripper/escorts, are RL males. I'm not talking about transgender accounts or avs, but people advertising as RL females, down to selling "RL pix." Some are wise enough to not cop those off the internet and be discovered and lose their income stream. They use girlfriend or friend or dupes' pix.

Caveat Emptor?

 

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Pussycat Catnap wrote:


Randall Ahren wrote:


Pussycat Catnap wrote:

You can actually AR him just for asking...


I suppose she could assert that it falls under harassment as provided in the Community Standards. Specifically, that merely asking for such photos "constitutes unwelcome sexual advances or requests for sexual favors". However, at this point in their relationship, I don't think it's unwelcome. 

Its a TOS violation to start asking into someone's RL info. That's the AR grounds.

 

 

Chapter and verse?

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For all she knows, THIS is why he's asking. His alt could be a stripper/escort or have in her profile that she sells her RL pix. The odds of the alt and the OP running into each other and her finding out by seeing one of said pix are negligible. Many female av stripper/escorts, are RL males. I'm not talking about transgender accounts or avs, but people advertising as RL females, down to selling "RL pix." Some are wise enough to not cop those off the internet and be discovered and lose their income stream. They use girlfriend or friend or dupes' pix.

Caveat Emptor?

_________________ how do you quote here?______________I just copied and pasted_______

 

Wow I didn't know this happens here. I'm so naive.

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Pussycat Catnap wrote:

Its a TOS violation to start asking into someone's RL info. That's the AR grounds.


There is no provision in the TOS or the Community Standards that I could find that stated or suggested that asking into someone's RL info was a basis for an AR. The closest I could find was these provisions in the Community Standards under the heading of Disclosure:

Sharing personal information about your fellow Residents without their consent -- including gender, religion, age, marital status, race, sexual preference, alternate account names, and real-world location beyond what is provided by them in their Resident profile -- is not allowed. Remotely monitoring conversations in Second Life, posting conversation logs, or sharing conversation logs without the participants' consent are all prohibited.

Thus, asking for RL info does not appear to violate the ToS. It's only a violation of the ToS to disclose the info without consent to a third party.

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Would be indeed very weird that you could report someone for asking about her/his real life. But if you are asked, it of course your complete right to say "none of your business".

It is indeed the disclosure of real life information of someone without his/her consent that can be reported.

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Randall Ahren wrote:


Pussycat Catnap wrote:

Its a TOS violation to start asking into someone's RL info. That's the AR grounds.


There is no provision in the TOS or the Community Standards that I could find that stated or suggested that asking into someone's RL info was a basis for an AR.
The closest I could find was these provisions in the Community Standards under the heading of Disclosure:

Sharing personal information about your fellow Residents without their consent -- including gender, religion, age, marital status, race, sexual preference, alternate account names, and real-world location beyond what is provided by them in their Resident profile -- is not allowed. Remotely monitoring conversations in Second Life, posting conversation logs, or sharing conversation logs without the participants' consent are all prohibited.

Thus, asking for RL info does not appear to violate the ToS. It's only a violation of the ToS to disclose the info without consent to a third party.

The only thing that comes close to this is in the Lab's SAFETY ADVISE FOR TEENShttp://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Teen_Safety_Guidelines

Please note that this is specifically addressed to TEENS.  My take on this is that the Lab would be concerned with any adult trying to troll or groom a teen and the Labs reputation as well as any possible civil liabilities.  If sharing or asking for personal info was in and of itself a violation of the TOS, then not one of the successful SL to RL relationships the Lab likes to highlight could ever have happened.  In other words, The Lab would be inviting people to join SL and and violate their own TOS. 

 

Safety tips for teens

Stay anonymous

Don’t ever tell anyone online your “real life” information, including your real full name or your parents’ names, home address, school name or location, phone/mobile numbers, social security & credit card numbers, or anything that shows what you look like such as a photo, video or webcam link. For your safety, we do not allow other users to search for you by age or any other personally identifiable information, and it is important to keep this information private. If someone asks you for this info, don’t give it to them! Report the incident inworld at Help > Report Abuse.

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Perrie Juran wrote:

For your safety, we do not allow other users to search for you by age or any other
personally identifiable information
, and it is important to keep this information private. If someone asks you for this info, don’t give it to them! Report the incident inworld at
Help > Report Abuse
.

There.

AR him. 

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Pussycat Catnap wrote:


Perrie Juran wrote:

For your safety, we do not allow other users to search for you by age or any other
personally identifiable information
, and it is important to keep this information private. If someone asks you for this info, don’t give it to them! Report the incident inworld at
Help > Report Abuse
.

There.

AR him. 

Did you even bother to read the rest of my post?  This was in ADVICE FOR TEENS. 

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The extract from advice for teens has always left me somewhat perplexed.

In the natural search for common ground with others that they meet in SL, people will often ask where you're from and how old you are, and I would think most people would see nothing wrong in those questions being asked. There is no compulsion to answer.

However, the suggestion seems to be that if you happen to ask those questions of someone who happens to be a teen (you will, of course, not know that they're a teen because it's a secret) they would be justified in filing an AR. This, as with many things in the SL ToS and Comminity Standards, seems bonkers to me.  

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Winter Galli wrote:

He told me that he didn't have to have a shot of my face in them, and no one would know. He insisted that everyone in SL does this. 

 

Yes it's quite normal, i've accrued quite a collection of male "Mr Willy's" that have been sent my way without me asking for them.  It seems that some (most commonly Italians) use it as a sort of "hello" but instead of saying that they just start a conversation by sending me a snapshot of their bits.

I'll be happy to share some, if you're feeling deprived.  Though i'd say you're not missing anything :)

(My last name is probably the reason it's mostly Italians in my case)

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