ShyBirdShy Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Everytime I go into 'edit my shape' my avie looks just the way I want it, but as soon as I back out this light goes off and I see this weird shape around my nose! I thought it would've been everyone's avie that does that but it's not. I've cammed around and seen some people with perfectly smooth looking avatar faces and some that seem to have the same issue as me!! What is this?? It's really ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Ceawlin Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Hard to know what you're talking about. Post a pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charolotte Caxton Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 When you are in edit appearance, you have a light shining on you. When you go out of edit appearance, the light goes off. Usually the avatars whose faces you see as smooth are wearing a facelight, the ones who have the lines are either not wearing face lights or your viewer is not displaying them. What you want to do is get a face light, it makes your avatar look better to yourself and hopefully to those around you as well. Be careful not to wear one that is too bright as you then become a living spot light or glowing anomaly. Many facelights are free, the best ones let you change intensity and or color and quantity of lights, which are very useful when photographing yourself. At least, that is what it sounds like to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShyBirdShy Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 ^My avie in edit my shape, smooth looking. Weird, puffy looking. Do I have to buy some kind of permanant lighting or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShyBirdShy Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 so that's all it is, is a face light??? Thank goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShyBirdShy Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 Thank you!! I found a light in the marketplace and it solved all the issues I had. Now I won't be editing my shape ever minute. >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charolotte Caxton Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Yes dear, in edit mode you have a bright light shining on you. That is the only difference, think of a model at a photo shoot, bright lights, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charolotte Caxton Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Oh good! I am glad you found one, a facelight is as much a second life accessory as hair or shoes, there are several types out there, don't be hesitant to try them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Ceawlin Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 But gentle light is better, and the smaller the radius the better, too. Don't need to light up the whole sim. :smileywink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bree Giffen Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Since you are a new user and are probably using a newer viewer I'd suggest adjusting your sky settings. In the topmost pic above, we see the standard ugly shadows on the avatar. If you go to the World settings you can go to the Environment Editor as shown and make a new sky preset. In the Create a New Sky Preset window you choose a name for your preset. I named this example 'No Shadows'. Then click on the box that says Sun/Moon Color and set it to black. This turns off the light from the sun which causes those ugly shadows. Click OK to save the setting. The next step is to click on the Ambient box and choose a fairly bright gray setting (or whatever color you want). This controls the overall light you see in-world. Then click OK to save the ambient setting and choose Make This Preset My New Sky Setting and click save. That should be it. However, if you want to go back and reload that sky preset you go to the Environment Settings as shown above. Where it says Fixed Sky, you can click on the box to the right of it and choose your preset. User created presets are at the very top. Voila! Perfect skin for yourself and for everyone else that you look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Ahren Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Bree Giffen wrote: Perfect skin for yourself and for everyone else that you look at. What about people that look at her? Do they see her with perfect skin or does she still need to use a face light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamara Artis Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 No. Only if others have same windlight setting as she has, then they could see her smooth. Otherwise they see her not smooth, like she was seeing herself without a facelight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coby Foden Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 ShyBirdShy wrote: so that's all it is, is a face light??? Thank goodness. Oh no! To walk around face light shining on ones avatar is like yelling: "Hey, look at me!". :smileytongue: One will look exactly the same day or night no change at all. It totally kills the environmental lighting variation. Lighting varies in RL, so it does in SL. In RL we don't walk around a light source shining at our face. Why should we do so in SL? Variation is natural, to look like a perfect cartoon picture at all times is not. :smileywink: One can turn off the rendering wearable lights in the viewer. So, if you wear a facelight you could see its effect yourself. But those who have turned wearable lights off in their viewers will not see the effect of your face light at all. So facelights are a kind of self deception after all. :smileyindifferent: The saying: "What you see, is not necessarily the same what I see" is very true in Second Life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Petrov Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I agree with Griffin. If you feel that you must use a facelight, choose a gentle light that will not cause others to call you out as a lamp post when you walk into a club or shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charolotte Caxton Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Coby Foden wrote: ShyBirdShy wrote: so that's all it is, is a face light??? Thank goodness. Oh no! To walk around face light shining on ones avatar is like yelling: "Hey, look at me!". :smileytongue: One will look exactly the same day or night no change at all. It totally kills the environmental lighting variation. Lighting varies in RL, so it does in SL. In RL we don't walk around a light source shining at our face. Why should we do so in SL? Variation is natural, to look like a perfect cartoon picture at all times is not. :smileywink: One can turn off the rendering wearable lights in the viewer. So, if you wear a facelight you could see its effect yourself. But those who have turned wearable lights off in their viewers will not see the effect of your face light at all. So facelights are a kind of self deception after all. :smileyindifferent: The saying: "What you see, is not necessarily the same what I see" is very true in Second Life. I agree, Coby. Different viewers, sky settings, graphics settings, system performance, lag, graphics cards, etc pretty much guarantee that no two persons are going to be seeing the same thing. Also in agreement with Griffin as to dim lighting for the same reasons, those who run on low settings tend to have very bright facelights to those of us who run on ultra, so that is why I recommended a dim facelight in my reply to ShyBird Shy. As far as environmental changes, anyone with a capable viewer can adjust their day and night settings so it would be impossible to know if it is day or night time to those who are viewing you, so again, a dim light would be the best compromise. Facelights are one of those accessories that is common to second life, much like being able to see invisiprim shoes on some dance floors or gorgeous hair going through avatars bodies or even the fact that all our curves are in reality somewhat jagged. In an imperfect world, we do our best. Think of facelights as virtual makeup, sure, everyone knows we are wearing some, the trick is to make it look natural :smileywink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Hickman Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 And I agree with Venus.. using any old freebie facelight is not good enough. For someone to use one and *not* instantly piss-off entire crowds of people in public places, it *has* to have a light radius of 2m or less... 2m is roughly 6 feet in all directions, 12 feet from edge to edge, and is more than enough to light yourself up to your hearts content without bleeding light onto everyone else around you. It's no big deal to wear a respectable facelight if you're concerned about how others see you, but it becomes laughably ironic how if you wear a bad one with too large a radius, people will just DeRender you and you'll not be seen at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anahata Love Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 if you want a facelight that does NOT make you look like you should come with your own solar system get ghosty's polite facelight. i've had mine since the beginning of time it is very soft, only highlights your face and isn't a prim clusterf*ck. its free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charolotte Caxton Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Did I make it seem like I was against subtle facelights? I said in my first post that they should not be too bright and preferably adjustable. Is everyone else just agreeing or did I somehow convey the idea that I thought facelights should be super bright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Petrov Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Charolotte Caxton wrote: Did I make it seem like I was against subtle facelights? I said in my first post that they should not be too bright and preferably adjustable. Is everyone else just agreeing or did I somehow convey the idea that I thought facelights should be super bright? No, just the opposite. What you are reading are others chiming in to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charolotte Caxton Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Oh cool, thanks Venus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anahata Love Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 its good we are talking about it, because im not sure some people realize how bright they can be when they tp into a place. many times i've been in a store or club and all of a sudden everyone has a lit up yellow face because some poor girl is wearing an 8 prim facelight that is way too bright. the might not realize that they are overdoing it x100 because of their settings. maybe reading this thread will make a few people stop and go... "am i too much of a superstar? should i maybe tone it down a bit and save the corneas of others?" it's really a public service announcement ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melita Magic Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I don't use facelights or windlight. I figure I want to see myself at my worst because that is how most others will see my av also. Huge facelights tend to look ridiculous anyway. I think Ghosty made a freebie, softer face light, and it's usually available in the freebies room at the Forum Cartel Hangout (in search.) Every av has those triangles around their nose. There is no avoiding it. The best we can hope for is that a really quality skin will soften the shading around the nose and hide some of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anahata Love Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 you can get ghosty's on the marketplace for free. i would certainly recommend it if you needed to smooth your face out for pictures, if you are using natural light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShyBirdShy Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 I seem to have neglected my own thread, I didn't even know it was still going on. I used the tutorial given to me. Now I can see all of you as lovelies. hahaha. I'm sorry for not replying to my own thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charolotte Caxton Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Which tutorial? You have created a very beautiful avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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