Pandora Drezelan Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Being an SL model and addicted to professional photos I have found that some people do really artistic and beautiful work. while others make your SL photographic experience a total nightmare. I've had my fair share of both amazing and horrific photos so why is it that if you are in a business such as SL photography that you would do a BAD job on a photo in opposed to a GOOD one. don't people want their customers to come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Vuissent Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Some people talk themselves up as SL's best photographers, show wonderful pictures in their portfolio, but in fact are terrible photographers. Maybe they even think they're great. Some of the wonderful pictures might be dumb luck, others might be "borrowed" from other photographers. They're not necessarily doing it on purpose, and I'll bet many of them absolutely love the photos they take and would be heartbroken to be called a bad photographer! Some is a matter of personal taste, as well; what you consider a terrible photo might to someone else be absolutely gorgeous. Live and learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Drezelan Posted September 16, 2011 Author Share Posted September 16, 2011 Yes true but I have experienced some really bad photos and some with simply just not enough attention to detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamara Artis Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 it depends of many factors... Sometimes the person who was doing the photos didn't had an idea what to do with a photo, had a bad day or whatever.... But when you see your avatars breasts are not round, or that little area of arm under the shoulder (dunno how its called in english lol) is not smooth and nice, or some parts of your body are missing or whatever thats not fixed, why quiet? Just ask, can you fix that? And one advice, always say what you want to get, and always say what you like and whats not so good in the photo you got. When I started to work as a photographer I did some really bad photos, but at that time it was the best I knew lol You always have a choice of asking for another photographer to do it, or not paying and not taking the photo if you're not satisfied.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tako Absent Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 This is SL.. we have a legit "photographer" or i may say computer screen capturer with knowledge in REAL LIFE Photography aesthetics and we aslo have ROLE-PLAYING-PHOTOGRAPHER with unlimited money to spend to have a big and glam photo studio slash gallery. If you have an eye in telling a good work of art and it fits your taste, there's no way for you to spend some bucks for a crappy work. But then again it's still a matter of taste. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Vuissent Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Tamara Artis wrote: that little area of arm under the shoulder (dunno how its called in english The nice term is underarm; the less polite word for it is armpit I agree - talk to your photographer. Ask them to fix the parts of the photo you don't like, or ask them why they didn't fix those parts in the first place. Tell them you don't like the photo and don't want to pay for it; better, set up beforehand that you won't pay for a photo you don't like. Tell them what you're looking for, specifically, and encourage them to ask questions if they don't understand or want more specifics. That serves two purposes - helps you get a good photo, and helps them learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Drezelan Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 I have always been VERY specific about what i want. backgrounds. lighting. name or no name etc and sometimes i do get it but other times I don't and I become tired of explaining myself. I've even wrote it all down on a note card and sent the photographer an example photo. I can't be more specific than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Drezelan Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 It also depends on whether you've already paid a deposit of half the money which is standard procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanas Criss Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 "ROLE-PLAYING-PHOTOGRAPHER"... That is so clever cute and insightful... You can substitute just about anything in for "photographer" and it just gets funnier... A bit sad too actually... But much funnier than sad :-) Enjoy your role playing! (Just be honest about it with the customers... I'm still snickering) Lanas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janelle Darkstone Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 It never ceases to amaze me how a lot of SL artists and photographers seem like they have never looked at another human being before in real life. Paying attention to how one moves, how they stand, sit, fidget. How they hold themselves up in different moods.. just so many things about life and being lifelike that can't translate into a SL screenshot. I could never be a SL photographer; I'm much too OCD about everything being perfect that I'd never snap the shutter. And even then it still wouldn't be good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddie Diker Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 As an SL photographer, I can say even I, myself cringe when I see some other photographer's work. Especially because I know how the process works, I can see faults perhaps the clients wouldn't. I've seen legs melting into eachother (bad shading), jagged edges (no anti aliasing), too much light effects to make up for what the pic lacks (although I'm guilty of that sometimes, i love light! lol), unrealistic fake shadows, i've even seen once from one of the most prominent studio in SL, the worst mistake: BAD resolution! Yes, pixelated avatar......i've had clients come to me in complete anxiety over their past experiences with other studios but thankfully they enjoyed the photos I made them, and restored their SL photographer confidence . The list goes on.. I think the best photographer you can get your hands on, would be one that gets isnpired by your photo and talks freely with you about their inspirations and exchange thoughts and ideas for the photo. If they're too silent, pushy, or rush things, definetly don't continue with them and demand a refund for your deposit. Of course that might hurt the shy photographers out there, so weigh what I said with their portfolios. It would be ideal if the client didn't have to pay a deposit, this way you could get a test shot with the photographer and see what their work really looks like, and pay when you've approved it. However, from a photog point of view, a broke client could just take a snapshot of the photo when its displayed to them for approval and say they dont like it, then walk away with my work and I get nothing lol. It is complicated...sigh. Well, good luck . A tip for photographers having a hard time with gaining trust from their clients, I would recommend using software like fraps or camtasia studio, and do a speed edit video of your edit and upload it on youtube. It shows you really did it and plus gains your popularity and exposes you further on the web for further bookings :3. Since it's fast forwarded, you're original editing techniques won't be easy to see (in case ur special or something hehe), but the process itself is cool to watch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Pandora Drezelan wrote: Being an SL model and addicted to professional photos I have found that some people do really artistic and beautiful work. while others make your SL photographic experience a total nightmare. I've had my fair share of both amazing and horrific photos so why is it that if you are in a business such as SL photography that you would do a BAD job on a photo in opposed to a GOOD one. don't people want their customers to come back? Delusion disorder rules in SL. Just like in RL (think "X Factor"/"America's Got Talent"). Also, think about Picasso. Some say fool, some say great artist. Bottom line is, these people who do "a bad job" on a photo in SL really think they are doing fine (mostly), and will only learn if people tell them they're crap. But should we be cruel enough to shatter their delusion? Or is it a case of being cruel to be kind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Stern Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Spontaneous! Be a little spontaneous! While there is a great degree of control in using studios or poseballs, mixing it up on the fly can bring amazing results sometimes. Below is a snapshot I took of my friend Kimmy while we ( and a few friends) were all dancing leisurely to music (not at a club) to kill the time. *the only edit in this image is my signature I added: Also, commercial doesn't neccesarily determine how good or bad a photo is or isn't. Not everyone comes into SL hoping to be popular or sell the most popular thing. I myself prefer to leave atleast a legacy and testament to the joy I see through my eyes and project that as best I can onto the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I think spontaneous is fantastic - as a person who takes snapshots myself http://www.flickr.com/photos/42317687@N07/ (as opposed to one of the people the OP is referring to, who seriously bill themselves as a "professional" photographer). Art Box in Klaw, has ready set-up scenes for me, as a "photographically-challenged" person. My partner, Janelle, (a little further up the thread) has a great eye for detail, and the patience to create custom poses, as in this photo... And then other times, my camera shutter clicks to capture a personal memory you just could not pose for if you tried ... (this one still makes me laugh - definitely a "you had to be there" moment!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Marigold Devin wrote: Mmm, your eyes are like limpid pools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Madelaine McMasters wrote: Mmm, your eyes are like limpid pools. Haha, And I made a limp pool when I landed (urgh snail slime) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charolotte Caxton Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 chuckles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brayla Ravenhurst Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 SL photography in some ways can be more difficult than RL photography. I have more control over the camera in real life. Models by and large pose themselves - real world clients need a little posing (which I do by mirroring and prompting them). I experiment with SL photography, but I am not where I need to be in terms of my skill. So even though I get paid for photography in real life, I am not yet an SL pro photographer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electronic Mode Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 best way is to took self photos. because only you know how you like your pics. Letting others to do photos is kinda pointless well at lest i hope they do it for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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