Jennifer Boyle Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 How are profile maturity levels determined? I just discovered that they exist and that mine is Adult? I don't mind at all, but I would have expected it to be Mature based on the content of my profile.Are the maturity levels visible anywhere besides search results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Singer Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 maturity levels are determined by key words in the profile, making them fairly easy to manipulate, although updates may take several days to show. currently there is nowhere else those ratings are seen or used. officially all profiles are supposed to be G rated, but I'm thinking this is a move towards changing that policy (either that or it's just a general attempt to clean up search results). I'm not sure how that would ultimately work for avatars with M or A ratings visiting G land where a right click from a local avatar can pull up their profiles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Hird Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Void Singer wrote: I'm not sure how that would ultimately work for avatars with M or A ratings visiting G land where a right click from a local avatar can pull up their profiles... The best thing would be to have an adult tab in the profile where all that could be put, and the adult profile was only visible for residents who wanted to access adult content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Boyle Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share Posted July 8, 2011 Would you mind having a look at my profile and telling me what you think makes it adult? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Hird Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Jennifer Boyle wrote: Would you mind having a look at my profile and telling me what you think makes it adult? Thanks. Gee, I don't know, but words like escort and your profile picture perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Boyle Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share Posted July 8, 2011 I guess so. I would have thought them no more than mature. The picture is purposely posed to not show too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronometria Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Well one of your groups has a swearword in the title, that cant help. The F-pigs one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Boyle Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 Ah. I'll bet that's it. I really wasn't thinking about that. I'll hide it and see what happens. If it's still adult, I'll leave it and see. Thanks for pointing that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pussycat Catnap Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Jennifer Boyle wrote: I guess so. I would have thought them no more than mature. The picture is purposely posed to not show too much. Sigh... I feel like I'm on a mean streak lately in the forums and I don't like being that way, but this should be very obvious to you. Having a profile that says "Hi, I'm a skank $20 Ho looking to make a buck with pixel sexxors." (escort) is usually not PG or M. I doubt their filter is smart enough to notice the part that says 'retired skank' rather than just 'skank'. - I'm using the blunt words here rather than the euphamism SL likes for it, to drive the point home. If you're an SL hooker... that's not an M-rated form of employment. You can get banned for doing that job anywhere but on A-land, and that should kind of clarify something here. Your RL profile also says a few words: pron star and playboy model... and you wonder why you're in A? Listing employment in 4 sex joints... Being in a group called pronstars, having 2 picks to a sex club. Your RL profile also says a few words: pron star and playboy model... and you wonder why you're in A? This is like Al Capone wondering why he's called a mobster. That all said, one of my alts has the word naked in her profile and she's rated G - which seems a failure of the engine to me... By the ToS she should be M. I need to consider how I want to adjust that - change her profile to trigger an M word or remove the words I think don't belong in what's presently a G profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Vuissent Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Stupid question(s): is this automatic, and does it rate all users including those who use Phoenix? I ask because I've heard that V2 profiles are web-based (I don't use V2) and I've never had a web-based profile. So does it work for non-web-based profiles, i.e. Phoenix and any others that use regular profiles? /me is clueless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pussycat Catnap Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Ariel Vuissent wrote: Stupid question(s): is this automatic, and does it rate all users ... So does it work for non-web-based profiles, i.e. Phoenix and any others that use regular profiles? /me is clueless... Your profile will be rated G, M, or A - regardkess of whether or not your viewer has the ability to understand that rating. So yes, it rates all users. I would then assume that your viewer will just keep serving up everyone's profiles in the same way as search for it might not return all of the info now available in current viewers - but results might become unpredictable in time unless the TPV in question gets altered by its devs to support current methods. You do have a web based profile BTW, its here: https://my.secondlife.com/Ariel.Vuissent - You can log in there and edit it, including adding single-word interests that can enable you to be found in search by your interests. You are 'G' at the moment - curious given your comment about your Picks. Two of your Picks have no image though - is that your doing or are they getting screened out on me? Your third and fourth Picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowl Paine Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I don't see where the rating is? :smileytongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pussycat Catnap Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Knowl Paine wrote: I don't see where the rating is? :smileytongue: In world on search there its visible. Put the url into the inworld browser manually - that "might" work for people on old viewers. Otherwise you're getting rated and filtered as such - but without being able to percieve it on the TPV. The real benefit of the new profile system is this: https://my.secondlife.com/interests/Christianity https://my.secondlife.com/interests/Native+American https://my.secondlife.com/interests/Neko And etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwalyphi Korpov Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 The resident who provided the previous content, if any, has replaced it with this generic statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Singer Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 search-beta.secondlife.com for users not on a viewer that uses V2 search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pussycat Catnap Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Qwalyphi Korpov wrote: The July Update says the new search (which includes profile ratings) will be come the "primary search for all residents." Perhaps that implies that TPV will be switching to the new search too. In May or June they'd said they were just going to disabled v1 search. So I guess we'll see what 'method' will be used to make the new search the primary one... but I don't see them actually doing code in the 1.x series line anymore. I think this is what sped up development of viewers like Firestorm. For a good year that and Imprudence's v2 versions seemed to be just pet play around with code projects. At least those of us outside of their communities never heard anything. Now they're both suddenly working hard, and Firestorm sounds like its nearly if not fully ready... - I suspect these folks are worried the switch might go off on their v1s, so they're ramping up work to get their v2s ready. But if they do just make current search somehow work in the v1 line, then the push to jump up will not be as needed. Would be nice to see everyone able to use current search - it would clean up a lot of profile inconsistency. Since we're all looking at different screens of info now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Singer Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Pussycat Catnap wrote: - I suspect these folks are worried the switch might go off on their v1s, so they're ramping up work to get their v2s ready. except that phoenix team was the last major TPV to jump to V2 and they'd already been working on theirs (singularity is hybrid to my understanding). The only off directory one I know of that is continuing v1x code is Cool, with the intention of keeping support with openSim. But if they do just make current search somehow work in the v1 line, then the push to jump up will not be as needed. that part is pretty easy... the only part of new search that isn't compatible is some of the linking which supports new RUI handlers which are easy enough to add in.... it will even still work partially in the original v1 browser. Would be nice to see everyone able to use current search - it would clean up a lot of profile inconsistency. Since we're all looking at different screens of info now. well there's a problem... there's some good reasons that people are using the old profile styles... like being more stable, faster, and format preference.... changing of search is separate from access to the original profile format though. last word was that those repositories would remain, even in the face of the new profiles. they just won't be searchable (which is fine, since it's easy enough to get the key from one place and use it in the old repositories) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Boyle Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 Pussycat Catnap wrote: If you're an SL hooker... That's not an M-rated form of employment. You can get banned for doing that job anywhere but on A-land, and that should kind of clarify something here. Your RL profile also says a few words: pron star and playboy model... and you wonder why you're in A? Listing employment in 4 sex joints... Being in a group called pronstars, having 2 picks to a sex club. Your RL profile also says a few words: pron star and playboy model... and you wonder why you're in A? Yes, I do. Maybe I just don't understand the Linden mindset. Perhaps I would understand it better if they explained it better, or at all. Yes, I understand that practicing prostitution is an adult activity, and I understand that working as a pornstar is an adult activity. I understand that describing sexual activity in graphic detail or posting pictures of it or of genitalia (or, probably, female nipples) is adult. What I didn't understand, and still think is misguided, is that the mere mention of working as an escort or porn actress in rl or sl is considered to be adult content. It is certainly not General, but it sure seems to fall within the Mature guidelines. The way I think of it is that a review or description of an A-rated video, unless it;s extremely graphic, would be only M-rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Singer Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 the point that was being made there is that the logic for rating is topically based, not word based. the word porn may be debatable as M or A but the topic is definitely A. ETA spellcheck hates me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Boyle Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 I hope I'm not assaulting a deceased equine, but I thought of the perfect analogy to explain my thinking, which I realize is obviously at variance with some residents' thinking and the Lindens' thinking, which makes it have no practical importance. Newspapers routinely contain material about consensual sex, nonconsensual sex, violence, pornography, prostitution, and other activities generally considered unsuitable for minors. Yet neither society nor most parents make any attempt to restrict children's access to them. Most places I go that sell newspapers and magazines would not sell Penthouse to a child, even if she said her dad sent her for it, but they wouldn't hesitate to sell her the New York Times, even an issue with a front-page story about Dominique Strauss-Kahn's encounter with a housekeeper, to one. This demonstrates that society recognizes the difference between material and activities suitable only for adults and discussions and non-graphic descriptions of them, and that it does not recognize a need to restrict access to the latter. Societal consensus that access to something need not be restricted seems to me to mean that it deserves a G rating. Honestly, until I read the replies to this thread, it did not occur to me that the biographical information in my profile would be rated A any more than I would expect the issue of the Times containing a review of Jenna Jameson's autobiography to be kept behind the counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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