Animesh AI Mentors ?

[rasterscan]

I've been thinking. (Not always a good idea, ikr ) How about a personal Animesh AI mentor for every new arrival inworld ? It can greet, ask a few question re the new arrivals needs / expectations, and act / suggest places to go accordingly, offering click links and the like. 

Great idea ? Why not ?

Edited November 13 by rasterscan

[rasterscan]

What would you like to do first. Click a button ...

list buttons = ["DANCE", "SWIM", "FLY", "SAIL", "BUILD", "FIND HOME", "CHANGE OUTFIT", "SHOP", "DRIVE" , "MEET FOLK",  "PLAY GAMES", "AND SO ON" ];
string dialogInfo = "\nPlease make a choice.";

key ToucherID;
integer dialogChannel;
integer listenHandle;

default
{
    state_entry()
....

What buttons would you add ? (Must be essential to new arrivals. 12 buttons max //(laziness))

Edited November 13 by rasterscan
The joy of retirement. Could have it made by teatime but for RL

[Toothless Draegonne]

Given how absolutely terribad AI "advice" can be, I really don't think a GPTbot would be able to cope. It would hallucinate something truly horrendous, and end up with newbies getting mudkipped with regularity. Given an uncomfortably large section of the userbase here, you'd also see it abused to hell and back as people make a game out of trying to poison things.

[Lyric Demina]

If this is a suggestion designed to retain new recruits, I would be interested in a kind of this-but-pivot-slightly.  This is a weird suggestion but I like it: seeing as this is a world that requires of its Residents only that they be unusually curious (we arrive because we're curious; we learn the viewer because we're curious; we see what's possible in world because we're curious; we go through the phases of understanding and seek more, because we're curious... and if we're not curious then we move on to something else entirely, to me it's that basic) I would invite the powers that be to entertain the suggestion of a personal Animesh AI mentor  who, rather than asking questions of the new arrival, teases the new arrival with interesting questions.  Such as... "I wonder what would happen if you pressed that button over there."  The button glows eerily blue; the new arrival pushes it; the new arrival ends up in a cave filled with treasure.  The AI mentor then says, "I wonder what happens if you try to steal that treasure."  The new arrival clicks everywhere in the dugeon looking for the "steal" feature and instead awakens a dragon that chases the new arrival all over the place.  The AI mentor then says, "GEEZE DO YOU THINK YOU CAN FLY US OUT OF HERE PLEASE??? HURRY!!!!" and after some clicking, the new arrival realizes holy heck we can fly. 

I think appealing to a person's curiosity is going to retain that person.  If we don't appeal to their innate curiosity, they'll leave.  I think a a personal Animesh AI mentor  has the potential to actually do that. 

[Freckles Fairelander]

[Ksenia Elcano]

12 hours ago, rasterscan said:

I've been thinking. (Not always a good idea, ikr ) How about a personal Animesh AI mentor for every new arrival inworld ?

Sounds like a job for the CTO.

[Charlemagne Allen]

I get asked if I’m a bot enough already.

[Midnoot]

They'd certainly be more helpful and less oppressive than the current mentors. They wouldn't complain every time someone did something besides "stand there" Oh wait, they complain about that too. "ThIs Is A neWb ZoNe, If yOU waNt To hAnG OuT, Go to AnoTHeR siM". Because newbies prefer to come in and see a dead ghost town instead of the actual userbase of SL, active and present.  The AI wouldn't be overwhelmed by the presence of more than 2 people and be hindered from helping like the human mentors claim to be. They would actually reply with relevant topics instead of redirecting you to a group that nobody wanted to join, but was told to if they want help, etc. They might even do that thing the human mentors never do, ANSWER the question within a few seconds :D!

[Istelathis]

18 hours ago, rasterscan said:

I've been thinking. (Not always a good idea, ikr ) How about a personal Animesh AI mentor for every new arrival inworld ? It can greet, ask a few question re the new arrivals needs / expectations, and act / suggest places to go accordingly, offering click links and the like. 

Great idea ? Why not ?

If SL were hosting their own LLM, it might be a good idea.  But, if we all had a bot we could chat with for free, it might cost them a small fortune.  I don't think it is outside of the realm of possibility, that it would be horrible at giving advice, or the such, one could be created to provide a host of useful information and be a great guide to new users and a companion that follows around users, but you have to factor in the expense of running such a system.

Perhaps if it were included for a couple of weeks for free "new" users, and as an incentive to premium members - alternatively such a service could be offered as an additional expense after the two weeks.  As far as I know, most of us are paying for our chatbots in SL, through a variety of services such as Kindroid, ChatGPT, and for myself OpenRouter (inexpensive).  It is within the realm of possibility for LL to host their own AI, but to do so would almost require some sort of expense.  Having the hardware required for this, as well as a small team maintaining it would be expensive.

 

They alternatively, could just keep a stationary bot in different areas, that would explain how to use SL to new users, but it would not be as effective as having a companion following them around as they go out and explore the world where they would not be as accessible to the user unless they know to send them an IM.

Edited November 14 by Istelathis

[Midnoot]

11 hours ago, Toothless Draegonne said:

Given how absolutely terribad AI "advice" can be, I really don't think a GPTbot would be able to cope. It would hallucinate something truly horrendous, and end up with newbies getting mudkipped with regularity. Given an uncomfortably large section of the userbase here, you'd also see it abused to hell and back as people make a game out of trying to poison things.

Quite frankly , if you don't take getting mudkipped with a laugh , you're not gonna last long in second life ..this should be the admission test.   

 

.. or worse ... You might last 2 decades and inform everyone around you that they've been blocked and derendered every chance you get. ( Not you . But that's what comes to mind when I think of the alternative to laughing at being mudkipped )

Edited November 14 by Midnoot

[Cinnamon Mistwood]

1 hour ago, Midnoot said:

Quite frankly , if you don't take getting mudkipped with a laugh , you're not gonna last long in second life ..this should be the admission test.   

I really really wish I hadn't looked that up. 

[animats]

LL had an AI bot at WelcomeHub for a few days, with hover text indicating you should ask it questions about SL. But it didn't respond, and now it's gone.

It's a reasonable idea, but it has to be done well. Chatbots in SL so far seem to have zero situational awareness, and so are not useful participants in the world.

I think Kokoro Academy has an intelligent chatbot. Crack Den has some. (Theirs talk in SL emotes!)

Eventually someone will do this well.

[Porky Gorky]

16 hours ago, Toothless Draegonne said:

Given how absolutely terribad AI "advice" can be, I really don't think a GPTbot would be able to cope.

I don’t think that is necessarily the case anymore. Have you tried GPT 4 lately? I’ve been having conversations with it on my daily commute for probably over a year now. At the beginning of the year I would spend a lot of time arguing with it and correcting it, but not so much today. It seemed to improve noticably at the end of the summer to the extent that it is now making significantly less mistakes and is more efficient with filtering specific information with less prompting.

Edited November 14 by Porky Gorky

[Scylla Rhiadra]

Actually, I have no idea how useful such things would be, or how easy (or expensive) it would be to implement, but as cool gimmicks go, this one is tops!

I'm pretty sure that promoting the fact that you get your own AI-driven robotic companion when you join SL would get lots of attention, and bring a fair number of people in just to try it.

Hell, I might even sign up for an avatar. Probably time I did anyway, right?

[Fluffy Sharkfin]

2 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

Actually, I have no idea how useful such things would be, or how easy (or expensive) it would be to implement, but as cool gimmicks go, this one is tops!

I'm pretty sure that promoting the fact that you get your own AI-driven robotic companion when you join SL would get lots of attention, and bring a fair number of people in just to try it.

Hell, I might even sign up for an avatar. Probably time I did anyway, right?

The problem with that scenario is it all hinges on how well implemented they are (and how honest LL is in their marketing), if they don't fully deliver on their claims of having an AI-driven robotic companion all that attention could very quickly turn negative (it would make people aware that SL still exists however a slew of "SL is still alive, and it still sucks!" articles probably isn't going to help matters).

I think they'd be wiser to go with something a little less ambitious and maybe steer clear of having full animesh characters stumbling around, bumping into things and constantly getting stuck.  Something similar to "Bit" from the movie Tron which can hover around and be conjured up as required and then dismissed again when no longer needed would be more practical and less of a strain on the physics engine (or perhaps even wearable shoulder pets).

Conversational AI has become pretty good and an AI companion that can help to guide new residents through their first few days in SL would be pretty popular as long as they don't raise peoples expectations too high by overselling it.

It may even help them diagnose some of their onboarding issues since it could potentially be used to collect data on exactly what point new users most commonly choose to give up and leave.

[rasterscan]

9 hours ago, Cinnamon Mistwood said:

I really really wish I hadn't looked that up. 

Saved me a blush, thankyou.

[rasterscan]

Some interesting and considered thoughts on the matter. Appreciated. Now how about some Humor added to the prompt ?

[Prokofy Neva]

On 11/13/2024 at 3:10 AM, rasterscan said:

I've been thinking. (Not always a good idea, ikr ) How about a personal Animesh AI mentor for every new arrival inworld ? It can greet, ask a few question re the new arrivals needs / expectations, and act / suggest places to go accordingly, offering click links and the like. 

Great idea ? Why not ?

I run a dozen chatGPT characters in the SL Public Land Preserve. I find some people who are familiar with how to deal with chatGPT are able to use them, and others struggle even with signs put around that they must start their questions with a Prefix, which enables the bot not to respond to anything except its name -- with all kinds of chat in the environment, including from various scripted items, it is prudent to do it this way, and that's what Pantera added when she made this script to use openAI within SL.

I find that directly on the OpenAI site, chatGPT can't even correctly add up a list of breedable horses and their script times (it's bad at math) although it can be very helpful on other things like translation (although it hallucinates there as well).

I don't think this idea is workable. In my view, LL needs to put full-time, paid, benefited staff on to the job of onboarding newbies, and have teleport boards by theme/location/activity for them to click on their own if they aren't comfortable asking or answering questions.

I know when I have gone to new worlds, in fact, as in a store with a pesky sales clerk, I don't want anyone pestering to help me. I want to figure it out and acclimatize myself.

[Toothless Draegonne]

On 11/14/2024 at 2:57 AM, Midnoot said:

They'd certainly be more helpful and less oppressive than the current mentors. They wouldn't complain every time someone did something besides "stand there" Oh wait, they complain about that too. "ThIs Is A neWb ZoNe, If yOU waNt To hAnG OuT, Go to AnoTHeR siM".

I've been doing my bit to train that out of at least some of the mentors so far. Time was you couldn't move without getting shouted at. Now I come in with a blaze of pixels and sparklies and the most I get is "showing the usual level of subtelty again?"

Why yes, yes I am. Hi newbs, here have some free toys! [gives dasher script]

[Midnoot]

1 hour ago, Toothless Draegonne said:

I've been doing my bit to train that out of at least some of the mentors so far. Time was you couldn't move without getting shouted at. Now I come in with a blaze of pixels and sparklies and the most I get is "showing the usual level of subtelty again?"

Why yes, yes I am. Hi newbs, here have some free toys! [gives dasher script]

Make them newbies have the zoomies. Doing God's work .

[Charlemagne Allen]

Yes, we need more fun in SL.

[Midnoot]

More fun, less berating everything that moves. Alright, mentors? :3.