katiapfurtscheller Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Has anyone else noticed how SL is going downhill? Its just clique after clique after clique It doesn't matter what you do, how much you do, it is all just about a small group of people who control all the money and have all the fun I'm just done with the whole lot of it 7 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 8 minutes ago, katiapfurtscheller said: it is all just about a small group of people who control all the money and have all the fun Not sure what you mean by control the money. Who's controlling the money and fun? I have both and I'm not even part of any group. 14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnoot Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) Elaborate ? Yes, SL has been going down hill so to speak for a LONG time, but specify what you mean? :P. ( Probably not the same reason as yours) Yes, many sims have that disgusting little clique of people who spend every waking moment in the sim, don't greet or even reply to people who speak to them. ( Probably not the same reason as yours) HeHEHE, and YES, those who are making the money from SL are the ones who defend it's bad decisions the most. Land barons, [owners of popular stores], etc. ( Probably not the same reason as yours) Edited September 28 by Quartz Mole moderator redacted allusion to actual store-owner 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 16 minutes ago, katiapfurtscheller said: Has anyone else noticed how SL is going downhill? Its just clique after clique after clique It doesn't matter what you do, how much you do, it is all just about a small group of people who control all the money and have all the fun I'm just done with the whole lot of it What happened? Did you encounter an especially nasty group of people recently? I'm sorry you had that experience. I know it's hard but try to have faith there's others out there you'll be able to get along with better... 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeFlossDaily Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Some of the creators think we are so dumb they even come to the forums to promote PBR and make sure that everybody knows how very bad-bad it would be for them to continue using fallback textures. They are be a salty bunch in my opinion and only interested in their own money. There will of course also be denial in response to this. Cause nobody wants to admit they've sunk thousands of hours and dollars into a failing world. Similar patterns can be observed in other games. SL is mostly outperforming them at this point because it has a user-base. I encourage you to stick around and share your point of view in full detail. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Sometimes a good little break away is good for new perspective.. I've had my share of those and came back feeling refreshed and kind of newby'ish.. They also had me ending up on different paths each time that I came back. What works for me might not for you, but it might.. But also if you are done, you wouldn't come back after a break anyways, but if you do, I'm just saying it may feel like a whole other place.. It's easy to get stuck in patterns, that's for sure.. I hope all turns out for the best for you no matter what you decide. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillFletcher Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 I know 9 years in SL makes me a newbie still to a lot of people. I also know everyone is different and so my experience is just that, my personal experience only. The same however is true about the OPs experience. In my experience SL has never been better 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) 16 minutes ago, WeFlossDaily said: Some of the creators think we are so dumb they even come to the forums to promote PBR and make sure that everybody knows how very bad-bad it would be for them to continue using fallback textures. They are be a salty bunch in my opinion and only interested in their own money. There will of course also be denial in response to this. Cause nobody wants to admit they've sunk thousands of hours and dollars into a failing world. Similar patterns can be observed in other games. SL is mostly outperforming them at this point because it has a user-base. I encourage you to stick around and share your point of view in full detail. Your jealousy over not being able to reach your financial goals as a creator in 2nd life keeps shining through... Edited September 28 by Luna Bliss 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 8 minutes ago, BillFletcher said: I know 9 years in SL makes me a newbie still to a lot of people. I also know everyone is different and so my experience is just that, my personal experience only. The same however is true about the OPs experience. In my experience SL has never been better Same here...never better. But like you (if I remember you correctly) I've had some hard times. Difficult enough that I wanted to quit 2nd life. But we can persevere and/or take a break and bounce back, and be glad we didn't leave for good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 33 minutes ago, katiapfurtscheller said: It doesn't matter what you do, how much you do, it is all just about a small group of people who control all the money and have all the fun I'm increasingly noting that most decisions and policies introduced by the Lab are for themselves, the Land Barons and the creators with little to no love for the regular consuming resident. I've given up on the hope that this will change and as a result have cut way back on my time inworld and now even on the forum as it is the shilling clique here trying to imply there is nothing wrong and just gaslighting that it is those pointing out the problems that are the problem.. 3 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeFlossDaily Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 11 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: Your jealousy over not being able to reach your financial goals as a creator in 2nd life keeps shining through... I'm not a creator in SL. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katiapfurtscheller Posted September 28 Author Share Posted September 28 Thanks for the replies. 4 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: I'm increasingly noting that most decisions and policies introduced by the Lab are for themselves, the Land Barons and the creators with little to no love for the regular consuming resident. I've given up on the hope that this will change and as a result have cut way back on my time inworld and now even on the forum as it is the shilling clique here trying to imply there is nothing wrong and just gaslighting that it is those pointing out the problems that are the problem.. 100pc I couldn't agree more. I'll give you an example. I pay for singers. Most are nice, but here is the thing. They bring their entourage with them. None of them are interested in anything but the music. They poof the minute the music stops. The singers mostly poof as well. All the fun is between the singer and the entourage. I get nothing. I have spent 80k on singers in the past year. I have nothing to show for it. But yet the entourage that come are all cliquey and have all these inside jokes. So I am done, completely done. 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Luv Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 6 minutes ago, katiapfurtscheller said: I'll give you an example. I pay for singers. Most are nice, but here is the thing. They bring their entourage with them. None of them are interested in anything but the music. They poof the minute the music stops. The singers mostly poof as well. All the fun is between the singer and the entourage. I get nothing. I have spent 80k on singers in the past year. I have nothing to show for it. But yet the entourage that come are all cliquey and have all these inside jokes. To be honest though...that was happening in 2011 too! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ With DJs as well... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeFlossDaily Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 I find most clubs aren't worth going to because they are either full of groupy-groups, AFK 4 Life types, or actively in competition with each other to play the worst music possible. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaerolleClaudel Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Wow, this thread is like a projective assessment lol. 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeFlossDaily Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) I think it's important to let OP know they aren't alone. Many of us are frustrated with the current state of SL also. Edited September 28 by WeFlossDaily 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 It's getting chilly where I currently live...looking for my socks... 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) 33 minutes ago, katiapfurtscheller said: I'll give you an example. I pay for singers. Most are nice, but here is the thing. They bring their entourage with them. None of them are interested in anything but the music. They poof the minute the music stops. The singers mostly poof as well. All the fun is between the singer and the entourage. I get nothing. I have spent 80k on singers in the past year. I have nothing to show for it. But yet the entourage that come are all cliquey and have all these inside jokes. So I am done, completely done. So you are a sim owner and hoped those coming to hear the music would also be interested in your sim and what you have to offer there (besides the music)? When I hired musicians I experienced the same -- people come for the music and not the venue. It's just how it works here. So actually your plan (and mine) is a flawed one. We needed to attract residents in other ways as sponsoring concerts didn't achieve our goal. Edited September 28 by Luna Bliss 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 27 minutes ago, Rat Luv said: To be honest though...that was happening in 2011 too! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ With DJs as well... Hey, head back to 2007 or 2008 for me. Having concerts on my beautiful sim was never beneficial to me and I simply lost money paying the musician. The concerts were fun but I needed to make money too! People simply tend to ignore the venue and see it as free game land there for their enjoyment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 27 minutes ago, Rat Luv said: To be honest though...that was happening in 2011 too! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ With DJs as well... I remember that back when I started in 2009. That's what DJs and singers and hosts do. They have a group and send out a notice so all their groupies can show up. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katiapfurtscheller Posted September 28 Author Share Posted September 28 4 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: So you are a sim owner and hoped those coming to hear the music would also be interested in your sim and what you have to offer there (besides the music)? When I hired musicians I experienced the same -- people come for the music and not the venue. It's just how it works here. So actually your plan (and mine) is a flawed one. We needed to attract residents in other ways as sponsoring concerts didn't achieve our goal. Not a sim owner. I rent a parcel on a sim. No, I thought funnily enough I would make friends. But they are not interested in that. Clique. Clique. Clique. Inside jokes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) 2 minutes ago, katiapfurtscheller said: Not a sim owner. I rent a parcel on a sim. No, I thought funnily enough I would make friends. But they are not interested in that. Clique. Clique. Clique. Inside jokes. So you've spent 80k to hire singers to perform on your parcel and your goal was to become friends with the singer and their fans? Edited September 28 by Luna Bliss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 49 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: I'm increasingly noting that most decisions and policies introduced by the Lab are for themselves, the Land Barons and the creators with little to no love for the regular consuming resident. I've given up on the hope that this will change and as a result have cut way back on my time inworld and now even on the forum as it is the shilling clique here trying to imply there is nothing wrong and just gaslighting that it is those pointing out the problems that are the problem.. You are the customer that rents from the landlord and purchases from the creator and that's why these people do what they do -- so you can have these things and of course they should be compensated for their effort/time. How is that leaving you out? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 This thread seems vaguely familiar.. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extrude Ragu Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 43 minutes ago, katiapfurtscheller said: None of them are interested in anything but the music. They poof the minute the music stops. The singers mostly poof as well. All the fun is between the singer and the entourage. I get nothing. I have spent 80k on singers in the past year. I have nothing to show for it. But yet the entourage that come are all cliquey and have all these inside jokes. Money don't buy friends. 14 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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