Houseboat with 703 prims

[Alestes]

Heya lindens

I ve got a "proposition" (funny term when you think that everyone has been clamoring for this for ages...) . Upgrade your proposition for 703 prims versions for your houseboat...And don't tell me they're all taken. In reality, more than 60% of them are vacant. It could be a reasonable and quick alternative to the cruel lack of houses (and by extension houseboats) for the hypothetical premiums plus who could make the step and change account type... 

[Sid Nagy]

Regions (sims) can only hold an x amount of prims (LI).
So LL can't just walk around like Santa Claus and give away extra LI. It would have to remove half of the houseboats to guarantee the higher number.

Edited September 23 by Sid Nagy

[Alwin Alcott]

On 9/23/2024 at 9:03 PM, Alestes said:

Heya lindens

I ve got a "proposition" (funny term when you think that everyone has been clamoring for this for ages...) . Upgrade your proposition for 703 prims versions for your houseboat...And don't tell me they're all taken. In reality, more than 60% of them are vacant. It could be a reasonable and quick alternative to the cruel lack of houses (and by extension houseboats) for the hypothetical premiums plus who could make the step and change account type... 

when you get a houseboat on MP and move it on a homestead or full region you'll have 5.000 / 20.000 prims!

 

[Marisa Starbrook]

On 9/23/2024 at 3:14 PM, Sid Nagy said:

Regions (sims) can only hold an x amount of prims (LI).
So LL can't just walk around like Santa Claus and give away extra LI. It would have to remove half of the houseboats to guarantee the higher number.

That's an idea, since there are over 1300 houseboats available now. The interest in houseboats has died down considerably. (And I love houseboats that have wonderful locations.) They are still one of my favorite themes, even at 351 prims.

[Sparkle Bunny]

I don't have time to link it right now, but there's a thread where Abnor says they didn't consider making larger houseboat parcels because of the abominations people would inevitably build on all that empty water.

Pretty sure that even if the parcels were double-primmed 1024's the same objection would apply.

[Nika Talaj]

2 hours ago, Sparkle Bunny said:

I don't have time to link it right now, but there's a thread where Abnor says they didn't consider making larger houseboat parcels because of the abominations people would inevitably build on all that empty water.

Pretty sure that even if the parcels were double-primmed 1024's the same objection would apply.

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Speculation: When they forgot to put covers on some of the tiki buildout up in the SSP zone, it looked like the parcels might be 1024s.  Presumably tiki would be a quite watery theme (or at least part of it would be), and this quote would seem to indicate that watery tiki parcels would most likely be 1024s.

Edited September 28 by Nika Talaj

[diamond Marchant]

3 hours ago, Sparkle Bunny said:

I don't have time to link it right now, but there's a thread where Abnor says they didn't consider making larger houseboat parcels because of the abominations people would inevitably build on all that empty water.

Pretty sure that even if the parcels were double-primmed 1024's the same objection would apply.

^^this is true

[Matthieu Quander]

9 hours ago, Sparkle Bunny said:

I don't have time to link it right now, but there's a thread where Abnor says they didn't consider making larger houseboat parcels because of the abominations people would inevitably build on all that empty water.

Pretty sure that even if the parcels were double-primmed 1024's the same objection would apply.

This is already a common complaint with that theme, and I think the addition of the larger floor plan models was partly done to rein in some of that.  

[Marisa Starbrook]

15 hours ago, Sparkle Bunny said:

I don't have time to link it right now, but there's a thread where Abnor says they didn't consider making larger houseboat parcels because of the abominations people would inevitably build on all that empty water.

Pretty sure that even if the parcels were double-primmed 1024's the same objection would apply.

That was also my thought. I've seen too many houseboats where people aspire to be on land.

[Polenth Yue]

17 hours ago, Nika Talaj said:

Speculation: When they forgot to put covers on some of the tiki buildout up in the SSP zone, it looked like the parcels might be 1024s.  Presumably tiki would be a quite watery theme (or at least part of it would be), and this quote would seem to indicate that watery tiki parcels would most likely be 1024s.

If they made tiki a premium plus theme, the land bits and buildings would likely just be bigger. It's not the same as taking an existing theme with smaller houses and adding extra water space on it. You'd build it knowing it was for big plots.

It'd make a lot of sense to have a water theme for premium plus, as it'd encourage some people to upgrade and free up some space in the existing stilt areas. Whether that watery theme will be tiki, who knows. But it'd surprise me if they don't do a premium plus water theme at some point. They know they're popular.

[Alestes]

It's even more of a shame since many people are frustrated at not having access to the sea (the blake sea is a HUGE activity in SL). Don't talk to me about these laughable accesses to a rez zone. Houseboat ? The frustration comes from the lack of prims. Try to rez a full home and a tiny boat... You cannot or you live like a Steve Jobs witout furniture.

Incidentally, the technical limitation no longer makes sense in 2024 at a time when Linden is in the cloud (laughable in any case). The number of land premium plus does not follow... One wonders if Linden understands its own community. Because the sailors community is by FAR the one that spends the most on Secondlife.

But the logic in uncle sam country... 

 

[Eowyn Southmoor]

15 minutes ago, Alestes said:

Try to rez a full home and a tiny boat... You cannot or you live like a Steve Jobs witout furniture.

When I was living in one of the houseboats, not only was my place fully furnished and had plenty of decor out as well, I also had two boats permanently rezzed out, and still had prims to spare.

351 prims is the standard amount for a 1024m parcel, and since the houseboat itself doesn't count towards prim count, you're actually ahead when compared to a "normal" mainland 1024 parcel.  

I wonder how many people who struggle with the current prim allowance can remember back to before 2016 when ALL parcels had 50% less prims than what we currently have now

 

[Matthieu Quander]

On 10/5/2024 at 12:54 AM, Alestes said:

It's even more of a shame since many people are frustrated at not having access to the sea (the blake sea is a HUGE activity in SL). Don't talk to me about these laughable accesses to a rez zone. Houseboat ? The frustration comes from the lack of prims. Try to rez a full home and a tiny boat... You cannot or you live like a Steve Jobs witout furniture.

Incidentally, the technical limitation no longer makes sense in 2024 at a time when Linden is in the cloud (laughable in any case). The number of land premium plus does not follow... One wonders if Linden understands its own community. Because the sailors community is by FAR the one that spends the most on Secondlife.

But the logic in uncle sam country... 

 

1.  As @Eowyn Southmoor noted, houseboats can easily be fully furnished with enough prims left to rezz a boat (or two).  

2.  I don't know how you would even know that the sailing community is "by FAR" the largest SL consumer.  I'm going to need to see the proof.  

3.  Bellisseria was not created in an effort to provide easy access to the Blake Sea.  We are all lucky that they made it possible.  The fact that they have doesn't obligate them to make it all about sailing.    

4.  Yes, yes, American logic is obviously to blame.  This really makes your point, and I'm certain LL will have to take action.   

5.  Instead of nitpicking that existing themes don't meet your every need, perhaps your efforts might be better used to lobby for a Boat Slips theme.  

[Nika Talaj]

On 10/5/2024 at 12:54 AM, Alestes said:

It's even more of a shame since many people are frustrated at not having access to the sea (the blake sea is a HUGE activity in SL). Don't talk to me about these laughable accesses to a rez zone. Houseboat ? The frustration comes from the lack of prims. Try to rez a full home and a tiny boat... You cannot or you live like a Steve Jobs witout furniture.

Incidentally, the technical limitation no longer makes sense in 2024 at a time when Linden is in the cloud (laughable in any case). The number of land premium plus does not follow... One wonders if Linden understands its own community. Because the sailors community is by FAR the one that spends the most on Secondlife.

But the logic in uncle sam country... 

 

You are welcome to visit my houseboat.  28 free LI.  If I didn't have the candy bucket out, I could rez a second boat, and often do.  I think you'd have to agree that it's pretty fully furnished as is.  Please do some ironing while you're there; it tends to pile up.  Don't miss the deck on top (stairs on the right of the houseboat); the view of the lighthouse is nice.

I get it, LH living isn't for everyone.  If you like high-LI furniture, or if you want to keep a 200LI boat rezzed, it's not your cup of tea.

Oh, and btw, why sneer at the rez zones?  Even if a Belli rez zone nominally has 30LI capacity, you can still rez a 255LI boat in it.  I just did.

Edited October 6 by Nika Talaj