Second Life Red

[Perrie Juran]

As if Zindra didn't cause enough controversy

 

https://feedback.secondlife.com/feature-requests/p/proposal-introducing-second-life-red-a-separate-grid-for-adult-content

[Love Zhaoying]

"Mr. Quack", indeed.

[discussionbot]

Quote

The current Second Life grid would remain as it is, but without adult content, so PG only, making it more appealing to residents who prefer a non-adult virtual experience. This separation would not only improve Second Life’s public image but also create a safer and more focused environment for all users.

I had a good chuckle, thanks for linking it. Let’s turn the entire grid PG to aid with mobile app development. Glorious. 

[Nalates Urriah]

It is just a feature request.

Mr Quack came in about 2010. He was around for the Teen Grid. He doesn't address any of the reasons why the Teen Grid was given up. Nor does he address what the economic impact on merchants nor the value of land would be in a divided grid.

Another lame idea poorly not thought through.

[Robin Kiyori]

My head hurt just reading that. Then I foolishly read the comments.

Talk about a really bad idea..

[Scylla Rhiadra]

The PG grid would last around a month, and the Adult grid maybe a month longer.

Nothing like fragmenting your marketplace to kill a good thing.

[James Starling]

As someone who plays a child avatar you might assume I would be all for an idea like this, but you'd be dead wrong. Something like this would only work to make people resent child avatars more and would pretty much destroy the economy. We already have General, Moderate and Adult land ratings. We just need them to be properly policied. 

[Scylla Rhiadra]

Second Life features people who . . .

1. Want Second Life to be as safe as Disney World
2. Aren't interested in sex, but also don't want to live in Disney World
3. See sex as important to their virtual lives, but actually spend a great deal of their time, and in most cases probably the majority of it, doing other things
4. Are here for the sex only, and in some cases may not even ever step out of sex sims or BDSM dungeons

I want to suggest that majority of SL residents fall into Category 3, with Category 2 coming in somewhat lower in numbers, but still sizable. Those who want, or in practice only live, segregated sex/no sex lives are, I'm pretty sure, a minority here.

It's odd how many people don't seem to get that for most people sex in SL is actually integrated into our everyday lives -- just like in RL! We are sexual beings even as we're tidying the living room or filling out spread sheets. There isn't a "sexy Scylla" that I keep in a box, and only bring out for special "sexy occasions."

 

[Robin Kiyori]

7 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

Second Life features people who . . .

1. Want Second Life to be as safe as Disney World
2. Aren't interested in sex, but also don't want to live in Disney World
3. See sex as important to their virtual lives, but actually spend a great deal of their time, and in most cases probably the majority of it, doing other things
4. Are here for the sex only, and in some cases may not even ever step out of sex sims or BDSM dungeons

I want to suggest that majority of SL residents fall into Category 3, with Category 2 coming in somewhat lower in numbers, but still sizable. Those who want, or in practice only live, segregated sex/no sex lives are, I'm pretty sure, a minority here.

It's odd how many people don't seem to get that for most people sex in SL is actually integrated into our everyday lives -- just like in RL! We are sexual beings even as we're tidying the living room or filling out spread sheets. There isn't a "sexy Scylla" that I keep in a box, and only bring out for special "sexy occasions."

 

Then there's the secret fifth option: The asexual kinkster who dwells in A rated sims and would shrivel up like a bad lemon if they had to live in disney land or sex only.

[Scylla Rhiadra]

7 minutes ago, Robin Kiyori said:

Then there's the secret fifth option: The asexual kinkster who dwells in A rated sims and would shrivel up like a bad lemon if they had to live in disney land or sex only.

For sure. In fact, there are likely scores of different categories that I've neglected. And that's the point, really -- our relationship with sexuality doesn't neatly break down into the kind of simplistic binary that this proposal wants to enforce.

I'm not interested in sex here, but I'd die of boredom in a PG rated world very quickly. On the other hand, I'd also die of boredom on a grid where ALL I was encountering was sex-focused.

[Love Zhaoying]

55 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

Second Life features people who . . .

1. Want Second Life to be as safe as Disney World

* Directs you to Rule 34 *

[Love Zhaoying]

I think people who make these suggestions would be happier in their own grids, where they can't hurt anyone else. 

[Love Zhaoying]

I hope our buddy Coffee Pancake sees this thread. (I won't tag them, so as not to skew fate.)

Edited August 14 by Love Zhaoying

[Ceka Cianci]

Someone always tryin to reinvent the wheel.

[Zalificent Corvinus]

4 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:

Someone always tryin to reinvent the wheel.

But ROUND wheels that actually work are SO last decade!

 

Futureness demands TRIANGULAR wheels!

[discussionbot]

9 minutes ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:

But ROUND wheels that actually work are SO last decade!

 

Futureness demands TRIANGULAR wheels!

[Rowan Amore]

[Arwyn Quandry]

Creating separate grids has never solved a problem. It's only created new ones. Expect this "idea" to be closed quickly.

[Zalificent Corvinus]

1 hour ago, discussionbot said:

Exactly, while it CAN be done, only a moron would want to.

Note the insane over-complicated suspension system to compensate or the wheel bearings moving up and down.

Expensive over engineered solutions to a non existent problem.

 

Moron-Tech!

[shireena1]

There already is an adult slex grid, but i don't think it is own by Linden Lab.

I am not sure if I can put the direct link here, as it is adult orientated, but it is called redlightcenter. Google it yourself.

[Perrie Juran]

[BriannaLovey]

I saw this coming ever since the modesty layers came into play. The underground .pdf enthusiast community (though I can't say I miss them) were the canary in the coal mine for this; the demographic most likely to leave first as a result of efforts to sanitize the platform.

When you consider these facts, the incentive for LL to go in this direction makes sense from a business standpoint:

1) For various geopolitical reasons I won't go into, several countries or their member states are enacting laws that will require age verification for adult content.

2) The most user-friendly way for age verification is via payment info.

3) Tying payment info to age verification makes it easy to turn adult content on SL into a subscription service, which is what I suspect would be the real goal of this change in the first place.

Edited August 14 by BriannaLovey
keyword censors cause more problems than they create

[BriannaLovey]

bool is_object_appropriate(LLViewerObject* objectp)
{
  if(!objectp) return false;
  gKarenList.updateGlobalKarenCount();
  for(karen_iter_t iter = gKarenList.begin();
        iter != gKarenList.end();
        iter++)
  {
	
    if(iter && iter->thinkOfTheChildren() && objectp->isSLRedContent() && !gAgent.isSLRedSubscriber() )
    {
    	return false;
    }
  }
  return true;
}

This is just a sample of what the code for the viewer-side SL Red implementation will look like.

[Theresa Tennyson]

4 hours ago, Nalates Urriah said:

It is just a feature request.

Mr Quack came in about 2010. He was around for the Teen Grid. He doesn't address any of the reasons why the Teen Grid was given up. Nor does he address what the economic impact on merchants nor the value of land would be in a divided grid.

Another lame idea poorly not thought through.

You're being pretty salty to the AI bot that was used to write the request, you know...

[JUSTUS Palianta]

Dear god someone save us. NO.  Stick your proposal where the sun don't shine.