Political Group titles

[SpiritSparrow Skydancer]

What is the policy on the political group titles? I know you can not post signs in linden owned regions but, I see group titles all over supporting certain US candidates for President and was curious if there were any restrictions on this?  🤪

I am not reporting anyone understand, just curious.

 

 

[Rowan Amore]

21 minutes ago, SpiritSparrow Skydancer said:

What is the policy on the political group titles? I know you can not post signs in linden owned regions but, I see group titles all over supporting certain US candidates for President and was curious if there were any restrictions on this?  🤪

I am not reporting anyone understand, just curious.

 

 

I don't think there is any rule concerning group titles.  At least not that I've seen.  Backing a political candidate with a group tag just gives us all fair warning who to avoid or embrace.

I've seen some pretty disgusting titles over the years.  

Edited August 5 by Rowan Amore

[Scylla Rhiadra]

LL instituted a temporary ban on election signs in 2020. I haven't heard that they are doing so again. And I don't think that applied to group titles.

Personally, I like knowing who to block and derender before they've had the chance to say something awful. Group titles are fine with me.

[BilliJo Aldrin]

56 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

LL instituted a temporary ban on election signs in 2020. I haven't heard that they are doing so again. And I don't think that applied to group titles.

Personally, I like knowing who to block and derender before they've had the chance to say something awful. Group titles are fine with me.

Ironically, I feel the same way Scylla.

It wasn't a temporary ban.

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Edited August 5 by BilliJo Aldrin
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[BilliJo Aldrin]

1 hour ago, SpiritSparrow Skydancer said:

What is the policy on the political group titles? I know you can not post signs in linden owned regions but, I see group titles all over supporting certain US candidates for President and was curious if there were any restrictions on this?  🤪

I am not reporting anyone understand, just curious.

 

 

You can have political signs on your property on mainland, just not on networked advertising. Political signs are banned on Belli, I don't know about the old 512 continents.

*runs off to make some titles for the candidate of her choice*

Edited August 5 by BilliJo Aldrin
added stuff

[SpiritSparrow Skydancer]

Cool, it is good to know. I think I will adjust a tag for a bit.  : ) 

[Alwin Alcott]

always remarkable that the fighters for acceptance and tollerance are the first ones to silence people they don't share political preferences with.

[Istelathis]

56 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said:

always remarkable that the fighters for acceptance and tollerance are the first ones to silence people they don't share political preferences with.

Some of us just ignore intolerant people, because we know it is kind of pointless by now.  I mean, they can say something absolutely repulsive and I will likely just skim over it, and move on to something else.  I have learned that it is not worth the arguing, and that inevitably when they do say something repulsive and I respond, then I will have to deal with that person proclaiming persecution and claiming how horrible of a person I am.

I mean, even now I feel posting this is treading on thin ice, people who rejoice in making others suffer are likely itching for it.  Why bother?   What is worse, is that they are unlikely to learn anything, they will more than likely just dig their heels in deeper feeling justified in their views.  

 

Edited August 5 by Istelathis
Some of us, not most of us. I can't lay claim to most people, and how they behave.

[Rowan Amore]

29 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said:

always remarkable that the fighters for acceptance and tollerance are the first ones to silence people they don't share political preferences with.

I don't listen to fanatics of any kind in either world.  SL just gives people the upper hand by allowing the block feature and titles can give a preemptive clue.   In RL, I close the door on ALL political/religious groups, I hang up on ALL political calls, I throw away every political/religious pamphlet I get in the mail.  

Blocking in SL isn't "silencing" anyone.  They're still free to wear.their title and post their thoughts in their profiles.   I just choose not to hear it or see them.  Sort a like hanging up the phone or closing the door.

[AmeliaJ08]

Politics, in SL!?

No thank you! I can't say I've noticed much of that but yeah, that's something the platform should really discourage IMO.

[discussionbot]

12 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

Personally, I like knowing who to block and derender before they've had the chance to say something awful

I don’t block them but yes, it’s nice being able to distinguish a normal person from the average unhinged fruitcake who very kindly decided to voluntarily publish their equally unhinged takes with a sprinkling of conspiratorial and 4chan memes in their picks/1st life page so I know who to not interact with.

I’ll start blocking them when my shop is up because I don’t want them buying my stuff either. 

[Luna Bliss]

1 hour ago, discussionbot said:

13 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

Personally, I like knowing who to block and derender before they've had the chance to say something awful

I don’t block them but yes, it’s nice being able to distinguish a normal person from the average unhinged fruitcake who very kindly decided to voluntarily publish their equally unhinged takes with a sprinkling of conspiratorial and 4chan memes in their picks/1st life page so I know who to not interact with.

I’ll start blocking them when my shop is up because I don’t want them buying my stuff either.

I don't block or derender anyone, but I would attempt to prevent them from harming another should it come to that.

I recently turned down what looked to be a lucrative custom job for someone who had a political screed in their profile. So not blocking them...just refusing to participate or interact with anyone advocating abuse.

I'm not sure where the idea comes from that we must tolerate the intolerant in order to have philosophical/moral integrity.   I send them love in hopes they change their ways, but I certainly don't tolerate their actions. All it takes for evil to prevail is for those who believe in tolerance to do nothing.

[Extrude Ragu]

I've never understood why some people are so eager on dragging RL kicking and screaming into SL

[Rowan Amore]

5 minutes ago, Extrude Ragu said:

I've never understood why some people are so eager on dragging RL kicking and screaming into SL

Fanatics will do that everywhere—profiles, yard signs, group titles, forum posts, blogs, etc.   I guess they think if they shout it loudly enough to as many people as they can, eventually one person might agree?

 

[Sid Nagy]

4 hours ago, Alwin Alcott said:

always remarkable that the fighters for acceptance and tollerance are the first ones to silence people they don't share political preferences with.

Political campaigns in the US are a lot nastier then over here in NL (where we have our fair share too lately).
I can understand why people don't want to bother with certain groups from the other side. I consider it a good call from LL to ban politics as much as possible from their forums and land with a TOS like Belli.

[Shiloh Lyric]

Oops, wrong topic.

Edited August 5 by Shiloh Lyric

[Ayashe Ninetails]

Doubt there are any restrictions on it. I remember back when people were wearing political avatars and stores were selling political "celebrity" skins. At least one still does.

Feels a bit odd to see on such an international platform, and especially one where so many people at one time outright rejected anyone who dared try to ask them about RL (remember the "SL only!!!!111" rants in the First Life tab?), but whateva.

[Orwar]

   VPK 2026!!!

   .. Ahem. 

[JeromFranzic]

Tux (the Linux mascot) for Prime Minister!!!

Free herring for everyone, and tons of Guinness on tap for the adults*!!! 

*you may skip this if you're a teetotaler 

[Theresa Tennyson]

1 hour ago, Sid Nagy said:

Political campaigns in the US are a lot nastier then over here in NL (where we have our fair share too lately).
I can understand why people don't want to bother with certain groups from the other side. I consider it a good call from LL to ban politics as much as possible from their forums and land with a TOS like Belli.

Also, in the United States there are legal requirements for political advertisement so it's clear(ish) who's authorizing and paying for the message. Other countries have similar requirements. If there's a system specifically set up for advertising in Second Life then Linden Lab could be considered to be in a position to have to deal with those requirements. It's simpler to just not allow political advertising at all.

[Orwar]

15 minutes ago, JeromFranzic said:

Free herring for everyone

   Pickled or soured? 

   Eh, either way I'm in!

[SpiritSparrow Skydancer]

45 minutes ago, JeromFranzic said:

Tux (the Linux mascot) for Prime Minister!!!

Free herring for everyone, and tons of Guinness on tap for the adults*!!! 

*you may skip this if you're a teetotaler 

I do not think I have ever eaten Herring. But I have had Guinness. Not a fan. (I do not drink beer and rarely anything but vodka) I only drink clear stuff. weird huh.. water vodka.. sprite.. its some weirdness I have developed over the years. they probably make a pill for that.. 

[Garnet Psaltery]

1 hour ago, Orwar said:

   VPK 2026!!!

   .. Ahem. 

A Belgian paper and cardboard company?

[Zalificent Corvinus]

3 hours ago, Extrude Ragu said:

I've never understood why some people are so eager on dragging RL kicking and screaming into SL

"But... But... It ADDS more REALIISM! Because IMMERSION! Won't anyone think of the Roleplayers?"

[Jackson Redstar]

think its like the family dinner at Christmas - just no politics. Remember in the US at least - 50% of the population is either left or right. Best just to leave politics out of it