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Why is my airplane automatically rated 'Adult"? I can't find any shady words in the description.


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Perhaps no part.....check your keywords too.

 

The only way to be certain is to remove text and see how that effects the auto rating...You can remove one word at a time, or remove the lot (cutting and pasting it to notepad first) then add back a sentence at a time until you trigger the auto rating. 

 

Maybe start by removing "fokker" and see if the auto rating does not change. One possibly lame explanation is that since people sometimes try to get around these things, words that are spelled differently but could be pronounced as though they are swear words, might trigger the auto setting...

 

Good luck figuring it out.

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Sorry, added to my post while you were posting yours.  I would strip out all the key words (so as not to complicate matters) and then use trial and elimination in the main text/description to see what could be triggering it.  Honestly, it could be something as innocent as "dogfight".....

You're certainly not the first person to have issues with LL's silly automated-nannying.

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Hi, I think that the problem term could be "P38" !!

If I search on P38, I also see two other non-adult items, a holster and a pistol, that have also been flagged as adult.

Also I see that your "1969" plane has an almost identical description, except that it does not mention "p38" in the description or keywords, but it gets a General rating.

You could try to replace "P38" with "P-38" or "P 38" etc. etc. and see if that helps, 

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*facepalm* Do you suppose they added "P38" and "P33" as l33t-speak forms of "pee"?

Again I will say, the practice of auto-rating with NO indication as to why is User Abusive. The presumption of guilt implied by this behavior is insulting and offensive.

Hey Rodvik! If you want your company and employees to be treated like responsible adults .. instruct them to BEHAVE that way first.

And for those interlopers that claim it's up to the users to behave as adults, I will insist that it is MUCH easier for an Employer to enforce behavior patterns on an Employee than it is for any army or government to control a worldwide diverse population of netizens. Instead of insisting the mountain be moved to sit at your feet, get up on your feet and walk to the mountain.

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I looked at your listing and didn't see wording glaringly adult.

Two things that do catch my eye are...

1. Dogfighting.

2. 1969.

Who knows? It could be two words next to each that has an adult word somewheres in the lettering sequence.

Good luck!

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P-38 triggers adult, but a string including "69" does not?

That would not surprise me.  My mother always told me to mind my Ps (along with my Qs), but she never mentioned needing to mind my 6s or 9s.....

 

 

I agree with Darrius' assessment of this rude and inappropriate treatment.  It's not as though LL are willing to own up to what triggers the adult rating, because we merchants, who evidently need educating (by punitive means) are not allowed to know in case we try to cheat....being the filthy scum LL knows us all to be...

 

 

 

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Wow!  Ridiculous.

I'm pleased you've tracked down the problem so you can at least choose to get rid of the adult rating while you wait on the ticket.  I hope you get a good outcome from your ticket.

 

Good luck!

 

I googled p38 and apparently it refers to such "adult" material as an inland revenue related employer's statement, an airfighter (funnily enough....I'm sure you knew that one), a class of mitogen-activated protein kinases, and a can/tin opener.  Heedy stuff indeed.  You can see why under18s need to be protected from knowledge or can/tin openers surely?  And I think we can all accept that minors need protecting from the terrible fact that people work and pay taxes...

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Arduenn Schwartzman wrote:

Yup, I singled outh the words P38 and P-38 as the evil-doers! Omitting these foul words will restore the rating to General.

I reopened the ticket.

I'm completely gobsmacked. I honestly cannot believe the sheer stupidity displayed by some of the people at Linden Lab. What the hell are P38 and P-38 supposed to mean that some idiot decided they are adult words?

Over the years, LL has done so many negative things towards customers that make my heart sink and my head shake in utter disbelief that any company could be so bad. Even though they don't affect me personally, it's those things that have developed in me the attitude that I won't allow Linden Lab to have a penny more than is absolutely necessary from me - which is why I've never used the marketplace and why I abandon land rather than sell it - so they'll actually lose money (tier) for a while. This is another one of those things.

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Cerise Sorbet wrote:

I suspect that "p38" and "p-38" are not intentionally on the list, it smells like a regular expression gone wrong. Those things are handy but evil.

Add my vote to Cerise's theory. It has that "feel" about it. However, in an automated process that can quite literally (and quite wrongly) banish a legitimate product from being listed, the use of non-specific regular expressions is highly irresponsible.

I also align with Phil in total dismay that this level of incompetence is allowed to persist. Seriously

Brooke .. wake up please. Rodvik .. PLEASE! Stop screwing your bread and butter customers like this and take some responsibility AND action!

1. Publish the Word List

2. Fix the algorithm so that it clearly displays the word(s) flagged

3. Submit each item that has had at least one "automatic flag" for later review by an LL staff member to determine if the Merchant "cheated". (But do not block the listing.)

This method fixes the problems and protects listings from being gamed by using funky wording or spelling to circumvent the rules. It also does not assume that every single Merchant is a lying, cheating thief willing to break the rules to profit, whereas the method now in place does exactly that!

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Darrius Gothly wrote:

 

I also align with Phil in total dismay that this level of incompetence is allowed to persist. Seriously

As do I.  Particularly since this is a company that "educates" us punitively because in their view
we
are too lazy and apathetic to learn, or to behave responsibly and competently otherwise. 

Might I suggest to LL that it stop projecting its internal culture onto its customers?

And of course being treated like dirty little cheats at every turn, is insulting and offensive.

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Now that Linden Lab has reduced the requirements for Age Verification to a simple "Do you promise you are this old" Q&A, it's about time Marketplace took the same approach. To wit:

1. After a Product Listing is updated, scan it for words on the "Naughty List". If none are found or it's marked as Adult already then let it go with no further action.

2. If any "suspect" words are found, present the words in context and offer the Merchant two choices:
 . . . . a) "Oops, I'll fix that" or
 . . . . b) "I promise it's not Adult in nature in this context"

3. Add a Flag Reason called "Adult Content not rated Adult" for flagging products. If a Product is flagged under this reason and that product is truly Adult in nature, it is disabled for one week and cannot be listed again as anything except Adult. Three such Product Bans in one week earn the Merchant a Full Marketplace Ban. IF AND ONLY IF THE MERCHANT IS NOTIFIED BY EMAIL OF EACH PRODUCT BAN ACTION!!!!!!!!!!

This puts the responsibility back on the Merchant, and if they break the rules repeatedly, they lose the privilege of selling at the Marketplace.

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