Casino in Second Life? is Gambling Back?

[Love Zhaoying]

Is there a music stream playing there?

[Silent Mistwalker]

25 minutes ago, diamond Marchant said:

 

What a boring barback. There isn't even a mirror.

Under the Hill Saloon

 

Each item has a story or history behind it. Just ask the barkeep. He owns the place now.

Oh wait. Anubis isn't interactive. Oops.

Edited May 10, 2023 by Silent Mistwalker

[Sid Nagy]

4 hours ago, Rat Luv said:

I'm going to start up my own one...RAT'S ROULETTES! 🤑💲☘️

Roulettes, poker and DJs...and only $L300 for 1,000 chips! 

Will that be fish and chips or only chips?

[Rat Luv]

6 minutes ago, Sid Nagy said:

Will that be fish and chips or only chips?

Only for our Premium Gold VIP members! 

 

[Dorientje Woller]

18 hours ago, Persephone Emerald said:

The legal gambling age in the US varies by state and by the type of game. For Lotteries it's 18, but for most slot machines and casinos it's  21.
Of course online gaming is kind of the wild west. Legally it's 18, but as long as a minor can get their parent's credit card, they can probably play.
It's the same with playing as an adult in SL.

https://www.casino.org/local/guide/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK230619/

https://www.legalgamblingages.com/legal-gambling-age-for/california.html
"Legal Online Casinos For California Residents

California residents can legally gamble online using licensed international platforms like Bovada and BetOnline. The California Legislature has not yet succeeded in authorizing in-state operators to offer online gambling, so for the time being, these international platforms are the only option. Thankfully, these online platforms offer better and payouts, better customer service, and a wider variety of playing options. Additionally, online gambling is a very competitive market, so these websites all offer players unique and valuable promotions like free play credits and deposit matches."

 

Soon, advertising for gambling will be forbidden, like advertising for tabacco, this side of the big pound.

[Love Zhaoying]

33 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

What a boring barback. There isn't even a mirror.

..wait a gosh darned minute, just remembered we don't even have mirrors! 
Yet.

[diamond Marchant]

46 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Is there a music stream playing there?

No parcel music stream, no media.

[Persephone Emerald]

1 hour ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Is there a music stream playing there?

There wasn't one last night. Most Linden run regions don't have music, unless a DJ leaves a stream going, such as at the BelliHub dance area.

[Coffee Pancake]

45 minutes ago, diamond Marchant said:

No parcel music stream, no media.

No stakes.

No ...

[Love Zhaoying]

55 minutes ago, diamond Marchant said:

No parcel music stream, no media.

Can gesture fiends just go wild? 

Or, would their gestures be drowned out by the fun casino sounds?

[Persephone Emerald]

This picture is from the Merrymount Funfair, but I think Quartz's comment fits with this discussion too.

A * social gaming area * is no good without prizes for the games. 

If LL can give out prizes at a fairground, they can give out non-transferable prizes at a casino too.

What kind of prizes would be appropriate at a casino though?  Maybe free drinks, snacks, T-shirts,..hotel rooms?

[Coffee Pancake]

39 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said:

What kind of prizes would be appropriate at a casino though? 

Money.

That is literally the only purpose and reason to visit one. Ever.

[Love Zhaoying]

5 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:

Money.

That is literally the only purpose and reason to visit one. Ever.

I know people who also visit RL casinos for the show, food, and hotel. (Plus, they often get "comped" the hotel.)

[Coffee Pancake]

27 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Plus, they often get "comped" the hotel.

So .. that's money then.

[Ayashe Ninetails]

1 hour ago, Persephone Emerald said:

What kind of prizes would be appropriate at a casino though?  Maybe free drinks, snacks, T-shirts,..hotel rooms?

In SL? Maybe cute food/drinks. Plushies. Wearable keychains attached to a pair of keys attached to a holdable drink (thinking Hive, here). Sure, casino shirts. Plushies wearing casino shirts. 😄 Hats. A cute, sporty car (Vegas had that - a car in the lobby you could "win" as a jackpot). Some shot glasses with the logo on there for decor. Lots of stuffs.

[Scylla Rhiadra]

1 hour ago, Persephone Emerald said:

This picture is from the Merrymount Funfair, but I think Quartz's comment fits with this discussion too.

A * social gaming area * is no good without prizes for the games. 

If LL can give out prizes at a fairground, they can give out non-transferable prizes at a casino too.

What kind of prizes would be appropriate at a casino though?  Maybe free drinks, snacks, T-shirts,..hotel rooms?

If gachas / loot boxes count as "gambling," then surely so would prizes at the casino? It's still "winning something of value," even if it's no transfer.

The irony is that the "rules" make it possible to set up a game where you can only lose money, but never win anything of value for it.

[Scylla Rhiadra]

4 hours ago, diamond Marchant said:

As others have mentioned, the build itself is of high-quality. However, I find it suboptimal as casino design. I would have put the High Stakes area in its own room, something more luxurious. High rollers like special treatment. And where is the showroom? You have to have one of those if only so the VIPs can cut in line.

I think there's something to this.

I should start by saying that I have never played a casino, and pretty much certainly never will, but I've walked through them before, and found them deeply depressing, and an outright assault on my senses. But I get that some people love the ambiance -- the noise, the tacky decor, the lights, etc.

The LL build is, as you say, of high quality, but it seems to me to be replicating, despite that, the "low end" casino experience -- the banks of flashing slot machines, the painted plaster and paste bling, and the nylon carpeting. And I suppose, as I've noted above, there must be some who want that atmosphere.

But why on earth would there not also be a more lush and expensive-looking area? Something James Bondish? It was awfully hard to imagine 007 or "high rollers" playing in the existing areas. Areas -- maybe accessible only for high stakes players? -- that replicated Monte Carlo or whatever, rather than the casino planted next to the Walmart, might attract RPers, photographers, or, heck, EVEN ME (very short term: I'm not a gambler) -- just to experience it.

As it was, I just found the place dreary and depressing looking.

[Love Zhaoying]

2 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

But why on earth would there not also be a more lush and expensive-looking area? Something James Bondish? It was awfully hard to imagine 007 or "high rollers" playing in the existing areas. Areas -- maybe accessible only for high stakes players? -- that replicated Monte Carlo or whatever, rather than the casino planted next to the Walmart, might attract RPers, photographers, or, heck, EVEN ME (very short term: I'm not a gambler) -- just to experience it.

As it was, I just found the place dreary and depressing looking.

There's a saying, "we just can't have nice things".

[Silent Mistwalker]

3 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said:

..wait a gosh darned minute, just remembered we don't even have mirrors! 
Yet.

Curses! Foiled again!

[Sorina Garrigus]

On 5/8/2023 at 10:52 PM, Arduenn Schwartzman said:

Yes. No.

In other news, yes, SL has crime and murder. No, it's not real.

Well SL does have crime. 

[Sorina Garrigus]

On 5/9/2023 at 4:26 AM, Paul Hexem said:

Unless the tokens are free, they have value. 

They can be gotten for free daily but you can't sell them or use them for anything .... curently. So they have no value. Things of value allow you to turn it into pizza and tacos in time. Currently these fail the pizza and taco test

[Sorina Garrigus]

11 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

I think there's something to this.

I should start by saying that I have never played a casino, and pretty much certainly never will, but I've walked through them before, and found them deeply depressing, and an outright assault on my senses. But I get that some people love the ambiance -- the noise, the tacky decor, the lights, etc.

The LL build is, as you say, of high quality, but it seems to me to be replicating, despite that, the "low end" casino experience -- the banks of flashing slot machines, the painted plaster and paste bling, and the nylon carpeting. And I suppose, as I've noted above, there must be some who want that atmosphere.

But why on earth would there not also be a more lush and expensive-looking area? Something James Bondish? It was awfully hard to imagine 007 or "high rollers" playing in the existing areas. Areas -- maybe accessible only for high stakes players? -- that replicated Monte Carlo or whatever, rather than the casino planted next to the Walmart, might attract RPers, photographers, or, heck, EVEN ME (very short term: I'm not a gambler) -- just to experience it.

As it was, I just found the place dreary and depressing looking.

Ummm you clearly never been to a casino. This place looked kind of carribean like. trees, stone tiling unique circular design and arches. plants a couple fountains etc. .... a depressing casino is dark lights, wall to wall slots, obnoxious carpets super long lines of slot machines. 
I say they could have consulted with some good game designers. The blackjack plays slow, the slots are cludgy. and omg so primmy insanely primy. They did an old school cheap approach hiding textures in the center pillar to keep textures rezzed when they should be hidden on or under the games. 
I know a lot of game designers and could probably mention a good dozen that can done a lot better on the games. 

[Love Zhaoying]

15 minutes ago, Sorina Garrigus said:

Well SL does have crime. 

Criminy!

[Scylla Rhiadra]

5 minutes ago, Sorina Garrigus said:

Ummm you clearly never been to a casino.

Well, as I said, I've walked through a couple in my time. Those had made some attempt to look "ritzy," but in the same kind of way that a cheap club or restaurant will substitute "tacky" for expensive and tasteful.

Certainly, again, the SociaCasino is generally well-made. It looked much nicer than one from 2007 must have looked, for instance. But it was still . . . very meh. In my view. And definitely not a place where you'd want to RP, say, a spy story, or a Prohibition-Era backroom at a Speak. They can do better.

[Kimmi Zehetbauer]

One idea for the casino is make all tokens free (like some have suggested) and maybe issue 1000 per toon per day.  The slow machines would issue special coins that you can spend on exclusive Linden prizes and maybe some of the famous bears.