Any tongue ideas for Leltuka heads

[Subscribedd]

So I've read these aren't the most popular heads, even though they cost an arm and a leg. 

I've seen people take a lot of cute photos with these. Unfortunately, you cannot resize the tongue or head or even edit to move it inside the jaw.

https://prnt.sc/d4HCVL6H05by

 

I use Leltuka Axis hud

https://prnt.sc/RcTQnrO0l8_a

 

Unfortunately, since you cannot adjust size or resize anything, when i close my mouth it clips.

https://prnt.sc/lN_r6iS2hzWj 

 

I've had someone tell me to just make my character's mouth bigger and wider via shape sliders.

Sadly with the sliders I have currently, my character actually looks like a preset that I love and adore. ( https://prnt.sc/X1HsJJIfMR1e )

If i mess with her sliders to accommodate the tongue, it will completely ruin her face. 

I was hoping there was a way to find a tongue i could just throw into her mouth with its own hud and use it.

i ended up buying : https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/VAW-Mouth-Tongue/5951356? hoping this would help and for the most part it does, except its a bit outdated and there is no option for my to close her mouth with the tongue out. She only opens her mouth wide with tongue. does anyone have any suggestions?

[ValKalAstra]

6 hours ago, Subscribedd said:

So I've read these aren't the most popular heads, even though they cost an arm and a leg. 

That's news to me. As far as I know it's quite the opposite - aren't they the brand with the highest market share at the moment?

Anyways, tongues! To my knowledge there's no easy way to have that kind of fine control in Second life. The issue comes from the myriad of options out there with face shapes, attachments, deformers, script and animation count limitations, etc. While I'm not going to say it's impossible - I'm 99% sure that when it comes to photos with tongue, those were made with the Black Dragon viewer. You can use it to fine tune poses to an almost absurd degree. That includes options to both move the tongue base and also rotate and move the tip of the tongue to change the shape. The caveat here being that only you will see it.

Let me show you an example quick.

I took this quick image to demonstrate this. The head is a Lelutka Ceylon and the derpy face pose was made using the Lelutka Axis HUD you've already got - and then fine tuning the rest with the poser tool in Black Dragon. To that purpose, I disabled all head bones, except for tongue base and tongue tip, then tweaked the settings until it stopped clipping. So it can be done using photo tools which only show in your photos.

I'd be really surprised if that kind of fine detail could be achieved with any SL inherent means.

 

 

[Subscribedd]

11 hours ago, ValKalAstra said:

That's news to me. As far as I know it's quite the opposite - aren't they the brand with the highest market share at the moment?

Anyways, tongues! To my knowledge there's no easy way to have that kind of fine control in Second life. The issue comes from the myriad of options out there with face shapes, attachments, deformers, script and animation count limitations, etc. While I'm not going to say it's impossible - I'm 99% sure that when it comes to photos with tongue, those were made with the Black Dragon viewer. You can use it to fine tune poses to an almost absurd degree. That includes options to both move the tongue base and also rotate and move the tip of the tongue to change the shape. The caveat here being that only you will see it.

Let me show you an example quick.

I took this quick image to demonstrate this. The head is a Lelutka Ceylon and the derpy face pose was made using the Lelutka Axis HUD you've already got - and then fine tuning the rest with the poser tool in Black Dragon. To that purpose, I disabled all head bones, except for tongue base and tongue tip, then tweaked the settings until it stopped clipping. So it can be done using photo tools which only show in your photos.

I'd be really surprised if that kind of fine detail could be achieved with any SL inherent means.

 

 

I appreciate you sooooo much for the information. I'm not entirely new to sl, but im also not knowledgable. I was under the impression i legit had a issue with my character and there was no way around it. but turns out people are just using the tool. i appreciate this so much!

[ValKalAstra]

2 hours ago, Subscribedd said:

I appreciate you sooooo much for the information. I'm not entirely new to sl, but im also not knowledgable. I was under the impression i legit had a issue with my character and there was no way around it. but turns out people are just using the tool. i appreciate this so much!

I just realised that I might have misunderstood you. Your third image where you showed the clipping was deleted and so I could not see. I assumed you wanted to pose the tongue for pictures without it clipping.

Just for clarity, are you saying it clips in normal use too? Such as normal face animations? Either way, happy if I was able to help.

[Subscribedd]

3 minutes ago, ValKalAstra said:

I just realised that I might have misunderstood you. Your third image where you showed the clipping was deleted and so I could not see. I assumed you wanted to pose the tongue for pictures without it clipping.

Just for clarity, are you saying it clips in normal use too? Such as normal face animations? Either way, happy if I was able to help.

Yes! so my head is adorable. i love it so much because i used sliders to make it look that way so she looks like her own shape/preset. When i use the tongue on leltuka hud it clips through. if i adjust the sliders to make it not clip, she will morph into an entirely different beast ._.