Second Life Puppetry

[PheebyKatz]

They just got jealous of me for making a cool hand puppet is all. Had to outdo me, I get it. It's fine.

XD

As far as puppeteering avatars go, I usually just put on my stern subtext and suggest people do as I say. If all else fails I stamp my foot and cry. That usually works.

Edited November 13, 2022 by PheebyKatz

[Lucia Nightfire]

12 hours ago, animats said:

I'm encouraged that LL is attempting to make puppetry and maybe VR work, but they're late getting into that space and are now playing catch-up.

When has this never been the case?

[chrismignon McDonnell]

Does this allow to create a animation of 10 seconds? And save it to share with people like kissings

[Paulsian]

I'd never use this, i'd rather have a built in manual system I could record custom animations and replay them, sell them et.. See jira. like EEP except with animation creation like the dragon poser has except with ability to record animations via what is that stop motion. The offical viewer is going to need the built in AO FS uses as well to easily toggle. AO maybe ability to put notecard in AO with timings for different things. Like the abranimations animation hud but built in. That would be sick. I have fond memories of running 2 of those at the same time. one for me and one for others. with like 12 slots each for can't tell you how many perfectly timed strings of animations each one contained so many animations. That's the truest form of puppertry. 

This would be way more entertaining and original imo. 

 

Edited November 14, 2022 by Paulsian

[animats]

Sony has announced a new full body tracking system.

Mocopi full body tracking.

This is the first full body tracking system from a major consumer products company.

It's kind of expensive, around US$350.

The dev software is supposed to become available around December 15th, with products shipping in January

Now somebody has to figure out how to interface SL to it. VRchat is expected to have it soon.

Sony is coming out with a good suite of VR hardware. The coming VR2 headset tied to the PS5 plus this provides a complete system from a single vendor.

[Coffee Pancake]

wow .. even the video for that fails to sell it.

[Ayashe Ninetails]

14 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:

wow .. even the video for that fails to sell it.

It looks okay, I guess, but it doesn't seem to sync with how SL is typically used. It seems like it'd be cool for dance and fitness gaming, though.

[Lucia Nightfire]

3 hours ago, animats said:

Sony has announced a new full body tracking system.

Mocopi full body tracking.

This is the first full body tracking system from a major consumer products company.

It's kind of expensive, around US$350.

The dev software is supposed to become available around December 15th, with products shipping in January

Now somebody has to figure out how to interface SL to it. VRchat is expected to have it soon.

Sony is coming out with a good suite of VR hardware. The coming VR2 headset tied to the PS5 plus this provides a complete system from a single vendor.

Someone should do a "voodoo doll" parody of that video with an in-world waifu wearing the trackers and forcing their RL neckbeard user to dance or exercise until they have a heart attack (2 minutes into the routine) and continue as a corpse/zombie.

Edited November 29, 2022 by Lucia Nightfire

[Gabriele Graves]

There's no finger tracking and I suspect the hand position tracking is either very crude or non-existent despite the video showing the same hand positions.  Fingers and hands would be very important to me for SL.

[Quistess Alpha]

1 hour ago, Gabriele Graves said:

There's no finger tracking and I suspect the hand position tracking is either very crude or non-existent despite the video showing the same hand positions.  Fingers and hands would be very important to me for SL.

Yeah, if you have subtitles turned on it will translate the japanese disclaimer saying that face movements and expressions were edited in post, the avatar is "for illustration only" and not really representative of actual output you might get form the device.

Quote

* Avatar expresions and hand movements edited using 3dCG software

* Images for illustration purposes only.

 

[Katherine Heartsong]

People want this sort of puppet thing?

I mean, it's me sitting at my desk typing (and frequently misspelling) text into a field while my AO makes my avatar dance far better than I can in real life, and that's excluding the 4" heels and as Ginger Rodgers said, having to do everything the man is doing, except backwards

Edited November 30, 2022 by Katherine Heartsong

[Gabriele Graves]

I can see a rig where all parts are optional and if you don't wear a particular sensor then that area is left to whatever anim is being played being useful if it also includes gloves for finger and hand tracking.  It would probably have wider appeal over an all or nothing approach.

For me, I can think of a few ways I could use finger and hand movements to enhance my SL.  Maybe even upper torso tracking in a limited way.  I'm never going to be jumping around and attempting dance routines near my computer though.  I'll definitely leave that up to my dance anims to take care of.

Edited December 1, 2022 by Gabriele Graves

[Katherine Heartsong]

Hmmm, hand gestures. Yes, I can see that use.

[Nyara Squeegee]

I'm actually excited about this feature as I've been trying to use my avatar for Vtube-ing. I'm not very good when it comes to modding, so the setup to try this has been rather daunting and I haven't found any good tutorials yet. Anyone know of a good step by step guide or tutorial to set this up?

[Lindal Kidd]

I thought most people used VRChat for that, Nyara. No waiting for new SL features required.

[gei8ha]

Great idea. As a performer and professional student of dance this will create very interesting exchanges. And it won't be niche when people realize what can be shared with this kind of access.