How to AR an out of theme build?

[Karl Herber]

I have spotted a horrible mostrosity of a fullbright glowing nightclub encompassing an entire Houseboat parcel. However, none of the AR categories seem to fit. Why isn't there a category for Linden Home covenant breaches and until there is, what category should be used instead?

[Eowyn Southmoor]

For out of theme stuff i tend to just use the "Land - Encroachment" category - not really accurate but as yoursaid there's no specific Belisseria category.  For non-conforming security (ie: 0 second orbs), i usually use the "Harassment - Targeted behaviour intending to disrupt" category

[EnchantrixLisa]

I have had that situation. I just find myself deform & blacklisting the house, etc. 

[Paulsian]

2 hours ago, Karl Herber said:

Why isn't there a category for Linden Home covenant breaches and until there is, what category should be used instead?

If LL wanted to track LH ARs via reports to spot trends to get ahead of future problems would be more efficient to have at least one LH Covenant category in the AR area. 

I would have picked object littering. In Bellisseria, at present I usually only report 0 second security orbs. In the summary I would always include the words Linden Home. Also by having a LH category there possibly could be a 1 report per day limit to avoid residents making reporting residents their "thing to do" in SL. ?   

 

[Sylvia Tamalyn]

2 hours ago, Karl Herber said:

I have spotted a horrible mostrosity of a fullbright glowing nightclub encompassing an entire Houseboat parcel. However, none of the AR categories seem to fit. Why isn't there a category for Linden Home covenant breaches and until there is, what category should be used instead?

I usually just go with "Object littering". The important thing is to be specific in the Summary and Details. I always mention "Bellisseria" in the Summary line, and then in the details, say what it is I'm reporting and quote the bit of the Covenant that I'm referring to. 

[Karl Herber]

Thanks everyone. Object "littering" seems to be the best.

[LittleMe Jewell]

I think I once went with the option that is something like 'inappropriate content for region' or something like that -- not inworld currently to confirm the exact wording.  I do know that that category is one that LL looks at quickly.

[Persephone Emerald]

11 hours ago, Karl Herber said:

I have spotted a horrible mostrosity of a fullbright glowing nightclub encompassing an entire Houseboat parcel. However, none of the AR categories seem to fit. Why isn't there a category for Linden Home covenant breaches and until there is, what category should be used instead?

Send me the address and I'll AR it too. 

When I'm bored, I look at the map of Bellisseria for odd spots. A dark blue spot in the water may mean there's something interesting deep under the water. A large square could mean a griefer has rezzed a giant multiplying  box, someone's platform is too low over their house, or they've enclosed their Linden Home inside a bigger building and turned it into a porn studio. I've seen that last one and didn't AR it because the building was still basically in the same style as the neighborhood and what goes on inside their house isn't really my business. I have admittedly become Mrs. Kravitz, but some of the add-ons were truly hideous and many infractions I don't bother reporting.

Edited June 15, 2022 by Persephone Emerald

[Karl Herber]

17 hours ago, Persephone Emerald said:

Send me the address and I'll AR it too. 

 

I just went to check and it's gone now.

[Teresa Firelight]

Karl, I can relate to your situation.

I lived in a "dream location" next to a houseboat that had been converted into a nightclub/dancefloor. There was constant light encroachment into my area and it looked a horrible eyesore to me. I kept de-rendering his stuff (looked awful to me and totally out of theme). But just about every week he rebuilt it and had new stuff there, equally an eyesore to me.  The person who owned the parcel was a very nice person, but his builds were awful to live next door to. If he just built it once and left it, I would have just derendered it all and forgot it. But every week there were several new things to derender -- and it made the location feel unpleasant and stressful to me.

I got to the point where I felt stressed to even think about TPing there. Even though it was a dream location at the foot of a lighthouse, it got to be someplace I dreaded going.

So I gave up the spot and moved on to a different type of house.

 

[Gem Oxygen]

On 6/16/2022 at 7:36 PM, Teresa Firelight said:

Karl, I can relate to your situation.

I lived in a "dream location" next to a houseboat that had been converted into a nightclub/dancefloor. There was constant light encroachment into my area and it looked a horrible eyesore to me. I kept de-rendering his stuff (looked awful to me and totally out of theme). But just about every week he rebuilt it and had new stuff there, equally an eyesore to me.  The person who owned the parcel was a very nice person, but his builds were awful to live next door to. If he just built it once and left it, I would have just derendered it all and forgot it. But every week there were several new things to derender -- and it made the location feel unpleasant and stressful to me.

I got to the point where I felt stressed to even think about TPing there. Even though it was a dream location at the foot of a lighthouse, it got to be someplace I dreaded going.

So I gave up the spot and moved on to a different type of house.

 

There is a rule about using your Linden home as a sandbox in the covenant

[Persephone Emerald]

14 hours ago, Gem Oxygen said:

There is a rule about using your Linden home as a sandbox in the covenant

I don't think so, as long as the sandbox junk is not visible from the ground. I think you could leave your house empty and have your sandbox up on a platform above 2000 m. I'd set your rezzing rights to group only though, to avoid attracting griefers and excessive object spam. 

[LittleMe Jewell]

15 hours ago, Gem Oxygen said:

There is a rule about using your Linden home as a sandbox in the covenant

 

8 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said:

I don't think so, as long as the sandbox junk is not visible from the ground. I think you could leave your house empty and have your sandbox up on a platform above 2000 m. I'd set your rezzing rights to group only though, to avoid attracting griefers and excessive object spam. 

 

The covenant does specifically state "*Linden Homes can not be used as sandboxes."  However, I'd imagine that primarily applies to the ground home and not above the 2000m mark.  

[Prokofy Neva]

On 6/19/2022 at 2:05 PM, LittleMe Jewell said:

 

 

The covenant does specifically state "*Linden Homes can not be used as sandboxes."  However, I'd imagine that primarily applies to the ground home and not above the 2000m mark.  

Except changing your build every week doesn't fit the definition of "sandbox," likely. They mean leaving lots of plywood and unfinished stuff lying all over.

[Trinity Blakewell]

On 6/16/2022 at 10:36 PM, Teresa Firelight said:

K lived in a "dream location" next to a houseboat that had been converted into a nightclub/dancefloor. There was constant light encroachment into my area and it looked a horrible eyesore to me. I kept de-rendering his stuff (looked awful to me and totally out of theme). But just about every week he rebuilt it and had new stuff there, equally an eyesore to me.  The person who owned the parcel was a very nice person, but his builds were awful to live next door to. If he just built it once and left it, I would have just derendered it all and forgot it. But every week there were several new things to derender -- and it made the location feel unpleasant and stressful to me

I just released a really nice location that I rolled after letting go of my Sakura parcel, in a not-named region in a not-named theme. Across the street and one door down was an open-air disco on top of a one story house, complete with laser lights, etc. It was the first annoyance build I've seen in quite a while where I really, really got angry (most of the time it's. not worth it). My frame rate sunk down to below 1 frame per minute! I was having difficulty selecting/derendering/blocking everything that was needed to be derendered and blocked. You can bet that I AR'ed it. there are just some things that people should never attempt to do in a Linden Homes area. If they want to create this kind of eyesore, they need to take their tier and buy mainland. Not that I would wish it on anyone who is their potential neighbor on mainland.

[Tary Allen]

Sometimes AR don't work, there is an outdoor BDSM porch, complete with a vendor, cage, cross that I Ared twice and still there. Yes it is in Belli.

I don't care what lifestyle people have, it is just annoying how some folks think the covenant doesn't apply to them, maybe in some cases it doesn't.

[diamond Marchant]

It is a mystery why governance has dropped the ball in Bellisseria. I really wish that were the current priority,

[Eowyn Southmoor]

I don't think its a mystery at all. No doubt LL only has finite resources when it comes to policing Bellisseria.  When the continent was first released, they had approx 3500 homes to manage.  At a guess,  they now have about 10 times that many, so is it really surprising that AR's take longer to get resolved, or even don't get resolved at all?  

I imagine the situation will continue to get worse until Bellisseria is 100% complete and then LL can re-task resources.

[Odaks]

6 hours ago, diamond Marchant said:

It is a mystery why governance has dropped the ball in Bellisseria. I really wish that were the current priority,

It is a great shame! The only reason I stayed premium was because Bellisseria offered a rational covenant which prevented these kinds of anti-social activities, and particularly required things to be "kept in theme", with no commercial activity allowed. 

A friend with a houseboat not that far away asked me to look at a platform she'd hit when coming in to land on her houseboat. I flew up to 1000m and sure enough, next door was a flat platform. I spun through 360° while I was up there and could see at least 6 more items of sky-junk (within an 800m draw), at or around that height. She reported the one next door some time ago. Nothing has happened to it, it is still in place.

I am also aware of a report made of a commercial vender on the false beach of a houseboat, and that remains in place.

It seems very much that no action is being taken to maintain the Bellisseria standards by LL at all. De-rendering eyesores protects only you. It does nothing to maintain the overall appearance of the area. Risking an upsetting exchange with an offending resident is an avenue I have no desire to go down again. No matter how polite the approach is, I have discovered that far too many people just don't like being told that they are wrong - particularly when their activity smacks strongly of bringing mainland practices to Bellisseria!

So, anything that directly affects me gets reported. Anything else that I just happen to spot gets ignored because it's probably not going to get any action from LL anyway and I've got better things to do.

[Gwin LeShelle]

That's the reason I gave up my beautiful stilt home months ago, because the neighbors had a zero seconds orbs that teleports people home and banned them. Me and my friends and several people that paddled by, by boat etc reported this orb over a course of 4 months. Nothing happened.

Funny enough I moved to mainland then and my neighbor had an annoying temp rezzing mega lagging helicopter out. I ARed that one and boom next day it was gone. 🤔

[animats]

On 6/24/2022 at 12:32 PM, Tary Allen said:

Sometimes AR don't work, there is an outdoor BDSM porch, complete with a vendor, cage, cross that I Ared twice and still there. Yes it is in Belli.

If you want to build that sort of thing, please build it in Zindra.

[Tary Allen]

2 hours ago, animats said:

If you want to build that sort of thing, please build it in Zindra.

It is not mine, I've Ared it, more than once

[Betth Ashbourne]

These ARs don't always work. I've reported a Bellisseria resident with a build going well past the the land boundaries 3 times back in Feb/March, nothing was done and it still there. I've since moved so no longer worry about it. Other resident's builds that go past the land boundaries that I've reported have had action taken so it does happen. I'm a big fan of Firestorm viewer's Derender function, which I use often.  

Edited June 29, 2022 by Betth Ashbourne

[LittleMe Jewell]

15 hours ago, Gwin LeShelle said:

That's the reason I gave up my beautiful stilt home months ago, because the neighbors had a zero seconds orbs that teleports people home and banned them. Me and my friends and several people that paddled by, by boat etc reported this orb over a course of 4 months. Nothing happened.

For a zero-second orb with auto-ban, I'd probably get on Live Chat and let them know that I had done the AR multiple times and pushed them to get someone on it right away.  Someone was spamming objects on a parcel that had Build left open and after submitting the AR, I used Live Chat to let them know how critical it was.

[Teresa Firelight]

14 hours ago, Betth Ashbourne said:

These ARs don't always work. I've reported a Bellisseria resident with a build going well past the the land boundaries 3 times back in Feb/March, nothing was done and it still there. I've since moved so no longer worry about it. Other resident's builds that go past the land boundaries that I've reported have had action taken so it does happen. I'm a big fan of Firestorm viewer's Derender function, which I use often.  

Not all expand past parcel boundary builds are considered illegal. I have on multiple time extended the ground cover (phantom so people can walk on it easily) past my parcel boundary to the linden fence surrounding my parcel. My understanding is that is not illegal because it doesnt block off the area from others.. people can still (if they so choose) easily walk on it. I just cant imagine why anyone would want to.