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7 hours ago, TT120 said:

Y'know, you keep saying this over and over.  You seem to think that everyone is gay but is afraid someone will find out.  That's not even close to reality.  A LOT of people are just simply NOT gay and the same gender does not sexually stimulate them as in my case.  I'm not "afraid" of touching another guys junk, I' just have no desire to do it.  I think you'll find a lot of guys like that.  

you will found actually a lot ppl include female ,see gender behind avatar is matter ,.

all my friend , , same noobs with me leave SL, when I show them this forum about swap gender.

they are female , friend from my other mmorpg,

 

 

 

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some my friend <<<actually all my female friend from other mmorpg
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6 hours ago, MalibuBratz said:

Personally as a gay man if I found out that someone I hooked up with in sl was a woman i'd be tight af. I don't care if its a virtual world, I don't like dishonest people, and i'm also not attracted to women. Idc if the avatar is a man, i'm talking to the individual behind the avatar not to the avatar. 

Luckily I doubt that a lot of women pretend to be gay men on SL, but if you are just know that its shady af lol. Same goes for guys pretending to be girls.

And just to clarify I have no issue with women using male avatars, and I don't have an issue with them not disclosing their gender in general. But I feel like in the case of having pixel sex with someone, if you fully know that that person is not attracted to your gender and you still lie to them then that's a viol

imo  the reason some people lie their RL gender

-try to escape from real life condition

-unsatisfied with their RL gender , (not accepted as trans )

-playing catfishing for profit

-Schediaphilia

- Dissociative identity disorder

- natural born jerk

 

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8 hours ago, AnnabelleApocalypse said:

I guess its just a philosophical difference then. 

I dont see meeting someone on SL (or any virtual world) as meeting someone online in the same sense. SL is a fantasyland to me. That we can explore any and all aspects of our inner selves is a magical thing you cant get many other places. 

Like, I can understand from your perspective being a bit peeved. But don't you also think its kinda cool that you could help someone have an experience they could never have with anyone else in any other place? Isn't there some magic to that for you?

Now if this is an intimate, romantic relationship - totally different thing.  But a bit of Slex? Dont overthink it, just enjoy! :D

I absolutely do not see being lied to as something cool i'm sorry. If a woman wants to have pixel sex she could literally find ANYONE but me. There's a ton of dudes that are straight or bi that wouldnt care that they are a woman behind the avatar, so why choose me, someone who specifically stats in their profil that they are a gay man, as the candidate for their experience?

 

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Well apparently there have been so many threads on this subject now that even Google has taken note of them and is taking steps to address the problem. 🤣

So, thanks to Googles advanced AI we will soon be free of the burden of creativity and will no longer have to worry about how representative a persons avatar is of their RL appearance as those concerned with such things can simply block/ignore any avatar not generated by Googles PHORUM AI and then take comfort in knowing that, of the remaining "options" available to them, what they're seeing is exactly what they're gonna get?!

ETA: Obviously this post is meant as humour rather than suggesting it as a serious solution to the issue being discussed, but I do wonder if maybe in some future virtual world the leading questions and requests for voice some people employ to try and ascertain peoples RL gender will eventually be replaced with a simple "Hey, sexy avatar! Did you make it in Google PHORUM?".

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I literally just had someone say hello to me a moment ago. Zoomed over to his spot and found him naked. Not against nudity, but I wasn't in the mood for that so I just left. I think I need to find a Moderate safe hub (if there's such a thing)... it's getting tiresome being hit on by horny dudes who just want to poke. 

Ah, the quirks of being a digital nomad...

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4 minutes ago, JeromFranzic said:

I think I need to find a Moderate safe hub (if there's such a thing)

there are a whole bunch of Linden G-rated infohubs where we can go

Plum, Violet, Nova Albion, Warmouth, Ross to name some

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On 4/25/2022 at 9:54 PM, MalibuBratz said:

I absolutely do not see being lied to as something cool i'm sorry. If a woman wants to have pixel sex she could literally find ANYONE but me. There's a ton of dudes that are straight or bi that wouldnt care that they are a woman behind the avatar, so why choose me, someone who specifically stats in their profil that they are a gay man, as the candidate for their experience?

 

They think of gay men as being "safe". We (women) aren't wrong in my experience. 

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/women-warm-up-faster-to-gay-men-than-straight-guys-study-suggests.html

https://theconversation.com/the-science-behind-why-so-many-women-want-to-befriend-gay-men-51965

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/O-zone/why-do-gay-men-and-straight-women-make-such-great-friends/

 

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2 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

I mean there's a difference between wanting to be friend and hooking up with a gay dude. I don't care if a girl wants to be my friend because i'm gay lol, but like why go out of your way to have sl sex with someone who would 100% not be into you if they knew who you really were? I thought the point of women wanting to be friend with gay men was that gay men won't hit on them, the dots arent connecting here lol

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Just now, MalibuBratz said:

I mean there's a difference between wanting to be friend and hooking up with a gay dude. I don't care if a girl wants to be my friend because i'm gay lol, but like why go out of your way to have sl sex with someone who would 100% not be into you if they knew who you really were? I thought the point of women wanting to be friend with gay men was that gay men won't hit on them, the dots arent connecting here lol

Of course there is a difference but if you'll read the articles you'll understand why women are attracted to gay men and why some might go out of their way to entice one. There is almost zero chance of a gay man forcing himself on a woman. 

At a guess, I'd have to say for the same reasons straight men go after lesbians. They see it as a challenge. Not the dueling kind but of their own charm, wit, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.

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30 minutes ago, MalibuBratz said:

I mean there's a difference between wanting to be friend and hooking up with a gay dude. I don't care if a girl wants to be my friend because i'm gay lol, but like why go out of your way to have sl sex with someone who would 100% not be into you if they knew who you really were? I thought the point of women wanting to be friend with gay men was that gay men won't hit on them, the dots arent connecting here lol

Lol, maybe some think they can change you. They might like that you don't hit on them and find that adorable and develop a crush and suddenly it's - all I have to do is prove how great I am and he'll come around! Cuz that's exactly how it works! 😂

And then there's the whole wanting what you can't have thing. I agree though - none of that is ever an excuse to play with someone's mind like that.

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44 minutes ago, MalibuBratz said:

I mean there's a difference between wanting to be friend and hooking up with a gay dude. I don't care if a girl wants to be my friend because i'm gay lol, but like why go out of your way to have sl sex with someone who would 100% not be into you if they knew who you really were? I thought the point of women wanting to be friend with gay men was that gay men won't hit on them, the dots arent connecting here lol

People are weird...and stupid. People who think they can change someone's sexual orientation need to first imagine how they'd feel if someone tried to change theirs. By the time we're teenagers, I bet most people know which gender(s) we're attracted to. We don't need someone telling us that if we tried something else we might find out we like it. If people can't imagine what this would be like, imagine someone telling you what foods you should like or what colors you should wear. We're grown adults and don't need someone else trying to change us. That's rude and foolish.

This is just me at this current time in my life, but I want friends in SL to explore and do fun things with. I don't want SL romance or SL sex. I like having an attractive avatar, but that's not because I'm trying to attract anyone. I just like seeing that cute and sometimes sexy-looking avatar for myself. Guys need to get over the idea that women dress to please or influence them. Sometimes we do, but mostly it's not about them at all. 

When a man plays a female avatar in a video game, it doesn't usually mean he's trying to trick people either. Maybe he just likes looking at a sexy female avatar. People need to stop trying to control how other people look in video games and virtual worlds (unless those people are being obviously rude or disgusting in trying to troll others).

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12 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

Such wow. So retro. Much Hustle. 

   I prefer a whisky sour, myself. 

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2 hours ago, MalibuBratz said:

I mean there's a difference between wanting to be friend and hooking up with a gay dude. I don't care if a girl wants to be my friend because i'm gay lol, but like why go out of your way to have sl sex with someone who would 100% not be into you if they knew who you really were? I thought the point of women wanting to be friend with gay men was that gay men won't hit on them, the dots arent connecting here lol

I don't get why anyone would want to be with someone who is not attracted to them at all.  Just, yuck.  

I do occasionally in SL (and did in RL in my early 20s) hang out at many gay-leaning clubs and areas because, yes, it is safe and pressure free.  It can be difficult to find places where a person can go and just have fun socializing and dancing without the constant pressure of hooking up.  I won't, however, be anyone's friend just because they're gay.  They better have a wicked sense of humor and still be kind.

 

 

/me fondly remembers slurping down Mind Erasers in the gay bars in New Orleans long long ago.... *smiles*

 

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On 4/26/2022 at 11:59 PM, Mollymews said:

there are a whole bunch of Linden G-rated infohubs where we can go

Plum, Violet, Nova Albion, Warmouth, Ross to name some

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Thanks! Some of these are fine places to park my clothed self before logging off. But I love Pullman and Lewis Forest... nice gnomes :D

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4 hours ago, Persephone Emerald said:

People are weird...and stupid. People who think they can change someone's sexual orientation need to first imagine how they'd feel if someone tried to change theirs. By the time we're teenagers, I bet most people know which gender(s) we're attracted to. We don't need someone telling us that if we tried something else we might find out we like it. If people can't imagine what this would be like, imagine someone telling you what foods you should like or what colors you should wear. We're grown adults and don't need someone else trying to change us. That's rude and foolish.

This is just me at this current time in my life, but I want friends in SL to explore and do fun things with. I don't want SL romance or SL sex. I like having an attractive avatar, but that's not because I'm trying to attract anyone. I just like seeing that cute and sometimes sexy-looking avatar for myself. Guys need to get over the idea that women dress to please or influence them. Sometimes we do, but mostly it's not about them at all. 

When a man plays a female avatar in a video game, it doesn't usually mean he's trying to trick people either. Maybe he just likes looking at a sexy female avatar. People need to stop trying to control how other people look in video games and virtual worlds (unless those people are being obviously rude or disgusting in trying to troll others).

That last paragraph matches me to a T. I don't always try to look sexy though... I'm slowly wanting to create a more mature look for my avatar that matches or exceeds my actual age (46) but still stays in shape, even with a bit of extra, y'know LOL (but I do try to keep it as natural as possible, whatever that means in SL/OpenSim terms).

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how on earth did a Open Sim hop address get in there LOL
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that's fine if some are not into whatever but no need to bash it or attach bad intent. i had some of the best experiences of my life in sl on voice. there's some amazing astral persons no doubt i will remember fondly the rest of my life. simply amazing in every way possible saints on earth and in no way negative in fact affirming in all of gods creations. it s a beautiful thing to some, spiritual even! im sure there are animal types but there are poets as well, subline, beyond space and time, i have friends who only voice, i only voice with some, voice is vastly superior to text, no doubt about that at all as I have experienced both. my experiences have been with close friends, never a stranger with persons i know well, in real life as well, always with persons i am close with, attuned with spiritually, deep persons, depth and expansiveness. two souls merging into one is beautiful, sharing subline experiences, a whisper a sigh, a breath

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On 4/13/2022 at 9:08 PM, oliviaumbrella said:

 voice is important to me when I want to be close friends with someone

me also.my friends feel the same. but if somebody only wants to text that's fine too. it's a big world do whatever makes you happy

i don't think i could be close to someone who refuses to voice. i would think they are hiding something, but that's just me

ive been duped in sl before

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On 3/22/2022 at 12:13 PM, Maitimo said:

SL has definitely changed that way, more so in the last 2-3 years I think.  As far as I can tell, 100% (and I mean exactly 100%) of men who initiate an IM with a woman (or someone who appears to be a woman), are desperately looking for sex.  The men who aren't, don't initiate IMs with women (because they know it will cause mistrust). 

It's got to the point where I basically just completely ignore any IM from someone with a male avatar because I just know where it's going to lead. Either they ask for sex or I tell them I'm a guy in RL and they block me.

Totally stealing that approach. :D

Then it has to %99.9999. I initiate IM's with women all the time with my male AV. I've made some wonderful long lasting friendships that way. Some involve sex, and some don't. Some of my female friends are guys in RL. I don't block them. I have one renting an apartment on our Island.  Also, I have male friends with my female AV's, and they know I'm a guy RL I'm friends with them with my male AV too.

So there are exceptions to what you stated.

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On 4/28/2022 at 5:20 PM, Persephone Emerald said:

When a man plays a female avatar in a video game, it doesn't usually mean he's trying to trick people either. Maybe he just likes looking at a sexy female avatar. People need to stop trying to control how other people look in video games and virtual worlds (unless those people are being obviously rude or disgusting in trying to troll others).

I totally agree with you. It's much nicer for me to look at an attractive female AV, than my male one.  I always tell my friends I'm male RL if I'm in a female AV. I end up being friends with them in my male AV too. When I occasionally escort as Toy or Swallow, I've had clients ask, and they don't always care if they know I'm a man. Some do , of course, but some want the experience of what I'm providing. One said: "your AV is female, and what I see on the screen is who you are to me". One of my female friends prefers to have sex with me as "Toy" (always free sex with friends). So I switch AV's for them.

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