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7 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

Yet you've mentioned it numerous times as your reason for not saying things a certain way.  For not understanding what someone else has said.  So, I explained.

My first post here was to explain what Salty means in regards to your OP.  The post was on topic explaining that salty was probably not what you were looking for.  You then called anyone whose post you didn't like, a gnat.  

Just because you don't like responses, doesn't give you the right to call people names.  It's bad form.

He also said he was covered in flies, and didnt bother to swat them, wich is not good for his gigolo business.

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But, that is basically the topic of the thread.

Gigolo

a young man paid or financially supported by an older woman to be her escort or lover.

Sugar Momma

A sugar momma is usually an older woman who provides financial and material support to a younger man in exchange for companionship, romance or sex. 

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26 minutes ago, Madelaine McMasters said:

...adds you to her little black book

To my satisfaction, I realized that it is very small.
However, I am always very pleased to see that my audience is very attentive to what I say.
When I need a good PR and the author of my bio, I will know who to contact.

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5 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

But, that is basically the topic of the thread.

Gigolo

a young man paid or financially supported by an older woman to be her escort or lover.

Sugar Momma

A sugar momma is usually an older woman who provides financial and material support to a younger man in exchange for companionship, romance or sex. 

So sorry, I lost track.
What exactly were we talking about?

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1 hour ago, Rowan Amore said:

angry or resentful, especially in response to a defeat or disappointment.

Once again I understand that I have been defeated by my own ignorance.
Where I come from "salty" has a completely different meaning.
But perhaps it is a matter of cunning and not ignorance.
This is why in one of my first posts on this forum I wrote that the value of SL compared to other social networks is that you can also compare yourself with the use you make of the rules of physics.

The art of war Bushido SL.

In physics there can be no interpretations. You know them for what they are and if you are able to use them in the best possible way you have that kind of magical power that makes you jump and rejoice at the most fearless leap you can make since the last.
I'm not a very smart guy. I'm like one of those who pedal hard to bring pizzas to employees in high-end business districts.
Okay Rowan.
You can continue to intervene in everything I write.
From now on I will consider it a privilege.
But don't think I'm not aware of the topic I'm writing about here just because you feel comphort with your skills here petting your audience with great skill.

(1kL$ every 10 minutes anyway, no discount)

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1 hour ago, BranScanlon said:

 

 

I don't really know why I wade into these, but oh well. Into the breach.

Hi. Former "virtual gigolo" here. I can explain some of it, but I can always leave the rest for someone else.

The main purpose or activity? My time. My attention. That's it. That's all. You can get into the weeds of the SLex, but honestly that's kind of it. Sincere, active, direct attention. I was not reading other IM's, I was not browsing websites. I was being paid for my time, and so I gave 100% of my focus to the person who wished for it.

Your "job" in it is not about you. It's about making your client happy. Satisfying their needs. Sometimes those needs are directly related to SLex and that only. But a lot of the time it's a combination of being a good listener, a good conversationalist, a good rp'er, and an attentive sexual partner.

That is not easy. It does require being willing to connect with strangers. To find ways to make that connection worthwhile (meaningful is a different thing. But you at least hope the time they spend with you was worth their while) It doesn't necessarily mean you divest  yourself of ego. Just...that you're aware the purpose of your employment in their service is for a satisfying encounter. However that "satisfaction" is determined is primarily part of your clients needs.

So - yeah. It is NOT easy. Sometimes it is very hard. Sometimes there just isn't a connection to be made, and you're just a bunch of pixels for another's pleasure. Other times it is quite delightful, and a bit of a relief that you don't need to worry about what the relationship is for - it is already understood between both parties what payment for my time entails.

I wouldn't necessarily do it again, though. Things get messy.

I think your's is the most eloquent and accurate expression of the experience I have read!!! It's so true it isn't easy!!!  There is a learning curve, and the learning never stops. Our skills at creating the right "look" for our AV are also important. In the case of dancers, (more) so, are typing skills. One girl I know can write long, off the cuff high quality emotes so quickly, that at first I though they were prewritten. 

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6 minutes ago, Bagnu said:

I think your's is the most eloquent and accurate expression of the experience I have read!!! It's so true it isn't easy!!!  There is a learning curve, and the learning never stops. Our skills at creating the right "look" for our AV are also important. In the case of dancers, (more) so, are typing skills. One girl I know can write long, off the cuff high quality emotes so quickly, that at first I though they were prewritten. 

I would like to read what that girl write. Maybe some producer would like to know what that girl would write.
But I'm afraid out of your world this thing would boil down to just a short sketchbook for a short scene of a science fiction movie which perhaps would be discarded after a couple of preliminary meetings.

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3 hours ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

I made 50L the other day.

LOL... Don't that let word of that get around my usual haunts!!!

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2 hours ago, Tama Suki said:

I never even thought for 10 seconds in my life to have a virtual gigolo business. 🙄

Then why start a thread about it? OH yes, because that's what you do.

1 hour ago, Tama Suki said:

To my satisfaction, I realized that it is very small.
However, I am always very pleased to see that my audience is very attentive to what I say.
When I need a good PR and the author of my bio, I will know who to contact.

She was referring to me not you

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3 hours ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

50L

You can import 3 o 4 excellent meshes including the UV textures with that amount and resell them for at least 500L each one-off.
Very smart.

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3 hours ago, Bagnu said:

I think your's is the most eloquent and accurate expression of the experience I have read!!! It's so true it isn't easy!!!  There is a learning curve, and the learning never stops. Our skills at creating the right "look" for our AV are also important. In the case of dancers, (more) so, are typing skills. One girl I know can write long, off the cuff high quality emotes so quickly, that at first I though they were prewritten. 

Hee. Thanks Sandor! Having been a former male dancer, too (I know, the sordid life some kittens lead *blushes*) I know your typing skills need to be on point. And yes, well crafted quick para emotes are exceptionally prized assets. *chuckles* They are the "soft skills" of the adult industry in SL I suppose. You can teach or tell anyone to buy X body and face, and you can show them how to tweak all their pixels to make something pleasing to them as well as to clients. I'm certainly not saying appearance is easy (case in point - Bran v. 2.2 and still re-doing it) But playful banter? Good, descriptive emotes that aren't copy pasted from a set form? That's something you can't really really teach someone. You can give them the basics (and I know @Caroline Takeda has some good articles about it on her blog page...I don't want to be remiss noting that.) and you can give them examples, but some people naturally take to it, and some just...don't.

I sometimes go to some of those clubs still, and tip the dancers not expecting anything, and a lot of the time they're shocked when my response to "what would you like?" is "nothing at all. You're just doing a good job, and I know this job sometimes sucks." Because yeah. It is sometimes a tough job. And sometimes it is a boring job.

TLDR? - Tip your dancers when you can. They're trying their best, and sometimes their job sucks. They might not tell you it does, because it breaks the illusion, but having been on the pole myself? Yeah, sometimes it sucks.

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/me tries to imagine @BranScanlon on a pole and fails miserably. 

That is the extent of my RP skills.

I imagine finding a really good escort/gigolo is difficult.  The skills of being a charming and easy going conversationalist are harder to find than most people think, but may be valuable to introverts or shy people who need confidence in socializing without the pressure of going live. It is a skill many would pay for if the general idea wasn't that it always seems to end with SLex.

The OP stated (sort of) that there seems to be more sugar daddies than sugar mamas and where would these sugar mamas be?  I have no idea, but I do not believe for one second that the use of the word salty was anything but on purpose.

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39 minutes ago, Cinnamon Mistwood said:

/me tries to imagine @BranScanlon on a pole and fails miserably. 

That is the extent of my RP skills.

I imagine finding a really good escort/gigolo is difficult.  The skills of being a charming and easy going conversationalist are harder to find than most people think, but may be valuable to introverts or shy people who need confidence in socializing without the pressure of going live. It is a skill many would pay for if the general idea wasn't that it always seems to end with SLex.

The OP stated (sort of) that there seems to be more sugar daddies than sugar mamas and where would these sugar mamas be?  I have no idea, but I do not believe for one second that the use of the word salty was anything but on purpose.

Sometimes it is purely about acting out a fantasy in text. That's when writing skills become important, and slex may not be involved. Such as when I (as Pearl) was paid to go home with a client, and have dinner with him and his wife. His wife not knowing what my profession was. All, in text. Me having to take the lead once he had established the setting.

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1 hour ago, Cinnamon Mistwood said:

The OP stated (sort of) that there seems to be more sugar daddies than sugar mamas and where would these sugar mamas be?  I have no idea, but I do not believe for one second that the use of the word salty was anything but on purpose.

 

Thanks for getting the thread back on its binary. Perhaps this difference in supply is due to the fact that in SL there are more unlucky men than women.

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35 minutes ago, Tama Suki said:

IMG now i need to understand also this. 

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What is there to understand? Seriously, explain yourself, because I have the suspicion that you belive women as a whole are completely uninterested in anything that is sexual or erotic, or dont have any urges or ever feel lonely or want something casual with no strings attached, but I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, so please, clarify your position.

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12 minutes ago, StarlanderGoods said:

What is there to understand? Seriously, explain yourself, because I have the suspicion that you belive women as a whole are completely uninterested in anything that is sexual or erotic, or dont have any urges or ever feel lonely or want something casual with no strings attached, but I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, so please, clarify your position.

Thank you.

I wondered if this other type of business is a kind of substitute for the first. That is, as if it were a quick coin up. What is the average duration of such a performance?

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1 minute ago, Tama Suki said:

Thank you.

I wondered if this other type of business is a kind of substitute for the first. That is, as if it were a quick coin up. What is the average duration of such a performance?

Why did you quote me if you 100% dodged my question?

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4 hours ago, BranScanlon said:

You can give them the basics (and I know @Caroline Takeda has some good articles about it on her blog page...I don't want to be remiss noting that.) and you can give them examples, but some people naturally take to it, and some just...don't.

I studied Caroline's articles when I started , and still reread them. I still work for her as an Escort, but as Swallow or Toy.

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18 minutes ago, StarlanderGoods said:

Why did you quote me if you 100% dodged my question?

Forgive.
I was simply wondering what kind of activity was that of the male dancer and if there were any differences in the type of performance.
I don't know why you put the issue of sexual distress in the female sphere into it.

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