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33 minutes ago, Sylvia Tamalyn said:

 

LOL so in a reading on that I guess all those poor club owners when their customers use those famous "shot dead" gestures that are used to no end... well maybe those clubs now need to be redesignated as adult LOL

Also the reading on that makes it very unclear even on simple nudity.  Had I not had Lindens in the past tell me its ok to be naked in Moderate regions one might read that as all nudity is adult content.

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19 hours ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

But this is what I don't get then...if you don't want to have sex in the yards of Bellisseria then why do you even NEED an adult version? It's perfectly ok to have Sex, orgy's whatever you want inside your Linden home currently.  What IS it that you are wanting to do that can't be done currently in a Linden neighborhood?

Years ago, not long after  I first discovered SL, I took a romp on the wild side, & learned many new things I'd never dreamed existed.  So I can imagine what could be done in an adult region.  How about a yard sale for those excess slaves & toys?  Or a capture me naked maze? Lol   Not my style, but the people I talked to were perfectly normal, decent folks.   Difficult to create now, I understand, but maybe in the future there could be separate regions with beautiful landscaping, 1024 plots, maybe with SL houses, or space to use your own?  ( I do like the name Pornosserria  😄)     But we could do without the names -"prude"  etcetera.

edit:  on that subject, do people really need to get upset over adult pictures, furniture, activity, etc. inside someones house in Belli?  Why are you looking??   Just admire the flowers.  😉

 

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I am in support of adult "Porniserria", but the OP mentions getting houseless land (or camper/tent on 1024sqm with the rest of the LI going to them) so residents can have more LI allowance for their "toys." I am not in favor of that. Adult activists want pretty land and neighborhoods too, but how nice would it look if everyone had vacant land or a tent and 500 prims worth of sex toys in their yards? If people want adult rated traditional, stilts, log homes etc., then I am all for that, but what was asked for in the first post sounds a lot like mainland to me.

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Basically, I don't care what you do behind closed doors. That is how I see it. 

Let me add that, whatever happens in your house, at a place of business that allows that or a nudist beach. I don't care what you do. And we have tonnes of those in SL, but I don't think we need a community that is basically 24/7 sexual activity. I mean there is already enough out there, to tickle your metaphorical pickles. 

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What the OP asked for was adult LH regions, not necessarily attached to Moderate regions, with a minimal mole building and as much free LI as possible.

I still say, the OP is actually asking for LL to fix the adult areas of mainland.  Bring the price down and make them nicer-looking.

IMHO, mainland at present is a broken product.  Land market dynamics are SO obsolete. There are some nice areas on mainland and some impressive builds, but mainland is known for its immense swaths of junky, barren, cut-up land.  There are nice builds in the old LH areas too, but @Patch Linden and company decided to stop investing in the older LHs and gambled on a new concept for LH living. BIG WIN.  

So ... come up with a new concept for mainland living.  Make new mainland that ISN'T BROKEN.  I'm sure there have been dozens of proposals to do just that.  It would take someone with both clout and vision to cut through the noise and actually do it.  Let's see ... who does that describe ... hmmmmmm ...

If LL wants to create an adult LH continent, great, it would make a lot of folks happy.  But as Abnor pointed out, there's real work involved.  Are there better investments for that real work?

It never used to be a goal for Linden Homes to be all things to all people - they were designed as starter homes.  Nowadays, it seems to me they are more like SL assisted living than starter homes, so perhaps adult and general versions will eventually come to be.  Which is fine, if that's what LL wants.  But it would be sad to me if everyone in SL lived in a Linden Home, and stopped trying to make their own world. 

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10 minutes ago, Nika Talaj said:

What the OP asked for was adult LH regions, not necessarily attached to Moderate regions, with a minimal mole building and as much free LI as possible.

I still say, the OP is actually asking for LL to fix the adult areas of mainland.  Bring the price down and make them nicer-looking.

IMHO, mainland at present is a broken product.  Land market dynamics are SO obsolete. There are some nice areas on mainland and some impressive builds, but mainland is known for its immense swaths of junky, barren, cut-up land.  There are nice builds in the old LH areas too, but @Patch Linden and company decided to stop investing in the older LHs and gambled on a new concept for LH living. BIG WIN.  

So ... come up with a new concept for mainland living.  Make new mainland that ISN'T BROKEN.  I'm sure there have been dozens of proposals to do just that.  It would take someone with both clout and vision to cut through the noise and actually do it.  Let's see ... who does that describe ... hmmmmmm ...

If LL wants to create an adult LH continent, great, it would make a lot of folks happy.  But as Abnor pointed out, there's real work involved.  Are there better investments for that real work?

It never used to be a goal for Linden Homes to be all things to all people - they were designed as starter homes.  Nowadays, it seems to me they are more like SL assisted living than starter homes, so perhaps adult and general versions will eventually come to be.  Which is fine, if that's what LL wants.  But it would be sad to me if everyone in SL lived in a Linden Home, and stopped trying to make their own world. 

Honestly, what I would love to see is Linden City. Turn Mainland into a massive city. Where even non-premium can rent there, they can have shops and others amenities. And that is what I would do. The continent is big enough to have a city, then you just mix bellisaria and Linden City and equally chunks among it and there you have a nice suburban area. Then with the remaining, you make Linden National park, with trailer homes and tents and the cottages and maybe some planned activities throughout the year. You don't need adult content, what you need to do is build from the ground up. Maybe keep some of the rented lands that are pretty, and put them on the coast. I don't know that is what I would do.  

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On 11/30/2021 at 11:58 PM, IvyLarae said:

I'm confused, there are full on Adult rated sex sims for this very thing, so why do you want LL to dip their toe in this? I used to moderate an adult sim and lemme tell you, getting the lindens to accept that sex is 90% of their platform, and these sims exist on their platform is VERY hard to do.

 

Also why are we shaming someone for voicing they wouldn't want to see that sort of thing when they go out? I don't have a problem with nudity, however I wouldn't be okay with it if you were to to the grocery store or run errands in an full on birthday suit either. Theirs a time and place for everything and calling people prudes or conservatives is pretty silly. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and attacking someone for not agreeing with yours? Are we not adults here? it makes me question it

What I meant and admittedly failed to say is, I know from experience that  the Linden's barely want to acknowledge  what Adult sims mean, they barely want to acknowledge that adult rated content and sims are a majority of their platform so with that said I highly doubt they would make adult rated Linden land since that would open up the possibility for those themes they want to act don't exist on  their platform onto the official lands.

 

With that said, I don't understand the OP's need to call the moderate Linden sims Prudish and the people who live on them prudes, it added a level of nastiness that wasn't needed to get her point across

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16 minutes ago, IvyLarae said:

What I meant and admittedly failed to say is, I know from experience that  the Linden's barely want to acknowledge  what Adult sims mean, they barely want to acknowledge that adult rated content and sims are a majority of their platform so with that said I highly doubt they would make adult rated Linden land since that would open up the possibility for those themes they want to act don't exist on  their platform onto the official lands.

 

With that said, I don't understand the OP's need to call the moderate Linden sims Prudish and the people who live on them prudes, it added a level of nastiness that wasn't needed to get her point across

Perhaps the OP has experienced enough of the other kind of shaming that so often hits the people of adult communities its a kneejerk reaction.  Even in this thread alone if you read through all the folks that dont understand people that like adult content there is this underlying dig of... Well you already have an adult continent you should be happy and satisfied and go away.  Reality is there is far more Moderate land out there than adult land.  Adult land does not even have a full mainland continent.  Zindra is incomplete.  For once I would just like to be able to voice my desire to have "NICE" linden land that is adult that does not cost some absurd amount without being made to feel like my request is somehow ridiculous or that what I call enjoyable in SL is somehow less important then what they consider to be enjoyable.  Also LOL at all the strawman arguments accusing everyone in the kink community of wanting to have secks on their front lawn and force our neighbors to watch it.  Or that because we want adult linden land it means we want 24/7 non-stop secks... its just as much a trope as the word "prude" and quite frankly its invalidating the experience of a very large segment of SL users.

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22 hours ago, Evangeline Ling said:

Abnor I don't think anyone including the OP ever imagined any of this is easy or would be something that is quick.

I didn't quote it at the time, but what prompted me to mention it was when you said "There is ZERO reason why they could not make Linden Home continents of the 3 different ratings for people"

I just wanted to underscore that it isn't only not easy or not quick. It's massively complicated... to the point that alone can be reason enough not to proceed with the idea unless there is an overwhelming necessity, rather than something that would be nice to have. Most people often severely underestimate just how much a seemingly simple idea is actually extremely complicated for reasons they aren't immediately aware of. Since I am acutely aware of most those reasons, I thought it was something that needed to be kept in everyone's mind. 

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And thank God people DO think of ideas unfettered by determining how to implement them.  That's how things get started.  Civilization hinges on this.  Without innovation, we'd still be pre-human primates, never daring to stand on our hind legs to reach for the fruit up in the tree, because how would that work?  Dream big, little apes, for one day you'll reach for the moon, and walk upon it.

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9 hours ago, Abnor Mole said:

I didn't quote it at the time, but what prompted me to mention it was when you said "There is ZERO reason why they could not make Linden Home continents of the 3 different ratings for people"

I just wanted to underscore that it isn't only not easy or not quick. It's massively complicated... to the point that alone can be reason enough not to proceed with the idea unless there is an overwhelming necessity, rather than something that would be nice to have. Most people often severely underestimate just how much a seemingly simple idea is actually extremely complicated for reasons they aren't immediately aware of. Since I am acutely aware of most those reasons, I thought it was something that needed to be kept in everyone's mind. 

 

The only reason I can see for Linden Lab not just creating another continent with exactly the same content already built on Bellisaria, with the campers, woodlands, victorians, etc., but giving them an Adult rating and then leaving the residents to decorate and play on them however they want is having to deal with the fallout of the possible publicity that would come from that... and that leads on to what has already been discussed at the governance team meetings, about the content currently in Second Life.

So the content is already in Second Life. 

But maybe the problems occur when the people into b e a s t iality roleplay in one A-rated Linden Home have someone allocated the adjacent Linden home and they're into Dolcet roleplay, and then there is the furry adult content with their anatomical parts that everyone whose into Dolcet seems to find repugnant.*

No, it's just never going to be practical to have A-rated sims. It's a minefield. 

Tongue out of cheek now. Zindra is civilised and not as hardcore as people thought it would be. And why shouldn't A-rated people be offered a choice of the nice Linden homes just like anyone else? Just to have a place for a bowl to throw the keys into and grow some pampas grass in the front garden.  

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On 11/29/2021 at 11:34 AM, yestothis said:

No. Bellisseria is presented as a nice neighborhoods that you’d want to live in, not random plots of land for your sex toys on display. There are plenty of places in SL for that. 

See, I don't really get this. In real life, the people in the adjoining house to my brother are a throuple (two women, one man), and they were interviewed for a publicity piece for a large chain of UK sex accessories stores.  While their back garden is like a beer garden, and they put up their (regular) Christmas lights early, very few people actually know what goes on behind their closed doors. They don't have massive pink (or black!) dildos in public view, and might have an X-frame in their loft, but if they did, no one would ever know. And, of course, we don't have alt view in real life, so there is no way of having a snoop.

What I'm saying is, my brother lives in a really nice neighbourhood of modest semi-detached houses and bungalows, and these young people with an active and slightly less 'vanilla' sex life wanted to live in a nice area too. Why should they be denied this just because their sexual habits are a bit different. If they were running a prostitution service from their home or bringing to their doorstep something illegal - like b e a s t i a l i t y or dolcet - then it would be a different matter, obviously, but they're people with a healthy - if slightly different to the norm - sex life.

A-rated Linden Home sims could be created, but with a covenant like anywhere else that sex toys must not be visible from the street, so the external aesthetics are maintained at all times, and sounds must be restricted to own parcel. 

 

 

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