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All the Linden homes areas are 'Moderate', so nothing 'interesting' is allowed to happen outside.  How about Linden homes in an adult region, with a choice of homes like: (1) a camper, but in a 1024sqr; (2) a tent in a 1024sqr; (3) no home at all in a 1024sqr allowing the whole allowance for 'toys'...

Similar to the prudes getting all the adult stuff moved to Zindra.  And this would give a nice boost for the LL revenues as the 'I'm only in SL for the sex' crowd rush to go premium.

It doesn't have to be connected to the prudist moderate regions at all.

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2 hours ago, Anna Nova said:

no home at all in a 1024sqr allowing the whole allowance for 'toys'

You already have the whole "allowance" of prims on a Linden Home plot. The house does not count against it. But if you want an empty plot of land, thats the exact purpose of mainland. Wouldn't be much of a Linden "Home" if its a green field of nothing.

Also its a bit unfair to call "Moderate" prudish. It allows non-sexual nudity and nude art, for example.

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3 hours ago, Anna Nova said:

(3) no home at all in a 1024sqr allowing the whole allowance for 'toys'...

On mature moderate land adult stuff is allowed out of public view. Inside your home you can have all the 'toys' you want rezzed, outside your home you can have stuff with adult animations in as long as you have your parcel set so no one outside of it can see in. It's only PG general regions where adult content is a no no. 

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9 hours ago, Anna Nova said:

All the Linden homes areas are 'Moderate', so nothing 'interesting' is allowed to happen outside.  How about Linden homes in an adult region, with a choice of homes like: (1) a camper, but in a 1024sqr; (2) a tent in a 1024sqr; (3) no home at all in a 1024sqr allowing the whole allowance for 'toys'...

Similar to the prudes getting all the adult stuff moved to Zindra.  And this would give a nice boost for the LL revenues as the 'I'm only in SL for the sex' crowd rush to go premium.

It doesn't have to be connected to the prudist moderate regions at all.

Not really a new idea at all...

 

This was something many of us, including myself pushed for early on when Bellisseria started out.  The idea I know that the Lindens must have talked about at some point because they even addressed this question on one of the monthly "Lab Gabs" and the idea of Adult Linden homes was completely and totally shot down.  So I would love if they revisited the topic but when they did that episode of Lab Gab some time ago it felt like they gave us an answer to that ask already.

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For the most part, as long as adult activities are done privately and discreetly within the concept of "behind closed doors", there isn't much necessity of an adult region rating. The only reason you would need an adult region is if it was an adult themed club open to the public or an adult content business, both of which are already not allowed in Bellisseria because those would be commercial. 

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hum... adult region with option of having a building or none.... isnt that exactly what Horizons is? Maybe you should consider getting a Horizons parcel.

Though to be honest, most people rez rather conventional homes on Horizons and keep their adult stuff either inside the home or in a skybox, even though it is technically permitted to be out in plain sight there.

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51 minutes ago, Teresa Firelight said:

hum... adult region with option of having a building or none.... isnt that exactly what Horizons is? Maybe you should consider getting a Horizons parcel.

Though to be honest, most people rez rather conventional homes on Horizons and keep their adult stuff either inside the home or in a skybox, even though it is technically permitted to be out in plain sight there.

The difference being that you have to buy (a high price) to get a parcel in Horizons, you can't get one free as a Linden home type of perk. 

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10 hours ago, Anna Nova said:

All the Linden homes areas are 'Moderate', so nothing 'interesting' is allowed to happen outside.  How about Linden homes in an adult region, with a choice of homes like: (1) a camper, but in a 1024sqr; (2) a tent in a 1024sqr; (3) no home at all in a 1024sqr allowing the whole allowance for 'toys'...

Similar to the prudes getting all the adult stuff moved to Zindra.  And this would give a nice boost for the LL revenues as the 'I'm only in SL for the sex' crowd rush to go premium.

It doesn't have to be connected to the prudist moderate regions at all.

I didn't realize that there was a whole crowd out there that are itching to have sex out in the open and want a Linden Home. I MUST get out more! 

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There seems to be rising opinions that everything SL has to offer should be available in Linden Home areas.  Or did I miss something?  Did LL publish an RFP asking for ideas for new LH concepts?

LL has oft reiterated their definition of LH regions, which includes neither adult nor commercial zones.  How about a new mainland concept instead?  I wonder, would this thread and the "commercial LH" thread's OPs be happy with a new mainland product?  Could LL carve out specific areas on mainland and run them as lightly covenanted estates with some mole-built infrastructure?  I think they've tried twice, with Horizons and Bay City.  Obviously some sort of land price management would also have to be in place.  A difficult, but not impossible, new product.

 

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3 hours ago, Abnor Mole said:

For the most part, as long as adult activities are done privately and discreetly within the concept of "behind closed doors", there isn't much necessity of an adult region rating. The only reason you would need an adult region is if it was an adult themed club open to the public or an adult content business, both of which are already not allowed in Bellisseria because those would be commercial. 

Well I can see a need for it. I have had to move Linden homes because of neighbours being very indiscrete in their adult activities (explicit porn visible from outside the property), and multiple abuse reports failing to resolve the issue. Also, there are those who do not restrict sounds to their own parcels, and people outside are subjected to the sound of spanking, moaning etc as well as being able to see those avatars if they don't have parcel privacy settings set correctly and carry on their activities outside.

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34 minutes ago, Stephanie Misfit said:

Well I can see a need for it. I have had to move Linden homes because of neighbours being very indiscrete in their adult activities (explicit porn visible from outside the property), and multiple abuse reports failing to resolve the issue. Also, there are those who do not restrict sounds to their own parcels, and people outside are subjected to the sound of spanking, moaning etc as well as being able to see those avatars if they don't have parcel privacy settings set correctly and carry on their activities outside.

That means that there is a problem with proper moderation, not that there needs to be a place in the Linden Home areas for such items and activities.

Adding an Adult area would not necessarily stop folks from doing what you are describing.  The moderation issue would still exist.

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36 minutes ago, Stephanie Misfit said:

Well I can see a need for it. I have had to move Linden homes because of neighbours being very indiscrete in their adult activities (explicit porn visible from outside the property), and multiple abuse reports failing to resolve the issue. Also, there are those who do not restrict sounds to their own parcels, and people outside are subjected to the sound of spanking, moaning etc as well as being able to see those avatars if they don't have parcel privacy settings set correctly and carry on their activities outside.

What makes you think that these people would follow any rules and not continue to do these things they are doing now? I suspect that it will still continue even if there were 100 adult regions in Bellisseria. However, AR's not being addressed is all on LL. Why bother if they are not going to enforce it.

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2 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

That means that there is a problem with proper moderation, not that there needs to be a place in the Linden Home areas for such items and activities.

Adding an Adult area would not necessarily stop folks from doing what you are describing.  The moderation issue would still exist.

It definitely wouldn't stop them. Adult mainland exists. That didn't stop someone opening a public sex area on the general region where I have my shop. People who don't read the rules will continue to not read them.

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7 hours ago, Teresa Firelight said:

True Sylvia, but once you have it, you can use your premium 1024 free tier allowance for it to avoid monthly tier charges

Yes, I'm aware. I have a home in Horizons. 

I was addressing the bit where you said that Horizons was exactly the same thing the OP was requesting. It's just... not. 

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4 hours ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

What makes you think that these people would follow any rules and not continue to do these things they are doing now? I suspect that it will still continue even if there were 100 adult regions in Bellisseria. However, AR's not being addressed is all on LL. Why bother if they are not going to enforce it.

If LL can class something as a dispute between residents they will class it as a dispute between residents, and noisy neighbours are easy to fit into that category. If they are ruining your dream parcel you can always block them and derender all their objects.

(I do appreciate the OP's acceptance of the fact that she ought not to be doing this stuff on her lawn in a Moderate region,  and would suggest looking for a rental community of like-minded exhibitionists.)

 

 

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8 hours ago, Stephanie Misfit said:

Also, there are those who do not restrict sounds to their own parcels, and people outside are subjected to the sound of spanking, moaning etc as well as being able to see those avatars if they don't have parcel privacy settings set correctly and carry on their activities outside.

 

That's when it's time to hit the record button and post it all to Tik-Tok.

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Okay, now maybe you see my reason (ulterior) for raising this.  I think Linden Homes is killing Mainland.

I won't have Mainland any more because the 'no rules', 'no covenant', free-for-all that makes any effort you put into making something worthless when your new neighbour can do anything to ruin it.

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36 minutes ago, Anna Nova said:

Okay, now maybe you see my reason (ulterior) for raising this.  I think Linden Homes is killing Mainland.

I won't have Mainland any more because the 'no rules', 'no covenant', free-for-all that makes any effort you put into making something worthless when your new neighbour can do anything to ruin it.

Isn't that more a "Mainland kills itself"?* People are given unlimited freedom and it turns out some people shouldn't have that, if they are in the proximity of anyone else.

*If thats even true, I haven't seen solid data on the impact Belliseria had on Mainland. Mainland still fullfills some needs, that Belliseria with its restrictions in plot size and pre-established buildings can't cover. Wouldn't it be more resonable to say private sims are killing Mainland? Because they provide all almost the same benefits as Mainland, but without uncontrolled eyesores from sudden new neighbours.

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1 hour ago, Syo Emerald said:

Isn't that more a "Mainland kills itself"?* People are given unlimited freedom and it turns out some people shouldn't have that, if they are in the proximity of anyone else.

*If thats even true, I haven't seen solid data on the impact Belliseria had on Mainland. Mainland still fullfills some needs, that Belliseria with its restrictions in plot size and pre-established buildings can't cover. Wouldn't it be more resonable to say private sims are killing Mainland? Because they provide all almost the same benefits as Mainland, but without uncontrolled eyesores from sudden new neighbours.

You may be right.  Something is killing it.  Private sims don't cater (as far as I know) for those who want to own connected land, but have a usage covenant to protect, and be protected from, neighbours.  For me, the whole point of mainland was that I was connected to the roads and the seas.

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10 hours ago, Anna Nova said:

  I think Linden Homes is killing Mainland.

 

Given all of the forums threads over the past couple of years asking how to buy Abandoned land from LL - and LL specifically noting it in the Knowledgebase -- I think that interest in Mainland parcels actually increased during that time, which happens to be within the same timeframe that the new Linden Homes have been being grabbed up like crazy.

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4 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said:

There is already a huge adult continent. I forget what the regions are called, but I know there are adult regions on Mainland. So that is pointless. 

You are speaking of either Zindra or Horizons, and neither are Linden Homes, which is what the OP is requesting. 

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