JulsToffy Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Hello I can't find any info on this, need some help please. I own Belleza Freya mesh body. When wearing clothes with alpha (think lacy blouses, bras, etc.), they make body under them transparent. The alpha there is NOT on, I checked by angling my camera - mesh body was visible 'below' the clothes. I noticed that when I also wear hair with alpha, those parts on the mesh body that hair overlap become invisible. Any idea on how to fix that please? :) Screenshot of the issue below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Are you using a applier tattoo? If so, try switching to a BOM and see if that helps with the clothing/body issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulsToffy Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 43 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: Are you using a applier tattoo? If so, try switching to a BOM and see if that helps with the clothing/body issue. All my tattoos are all BOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karenx0 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 46 minutes ago, JulsToffy said: All my tattoos are all BOM If your body is BOM as well, then I don't think you are supposed to wear any other alpha other than your head/body alpha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalates Urriah Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 @JulsToffy What you are running into is a basic problem in 3D modeling across all platforms. The render style of the textures with transparency and translucent confuses the render engine. The solution is to change the blend mode of one of the items. The item has to be Mod-OK. In the texture section of the Build panel is where the blend mode settings are. Be warned... there is no GOOD solution. But you may find it better than doing nothing. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katherine Heartsong Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 To further add to what @Nalates Urriah has said ... some of the better clothing places now are adding a button in the clothing HUD to switch the Blend mode. That gives girls with hair like mine that can cover lace bits on clothing the option to change the clothing so you don't get those weird transparency issues. Only a handful I have seen so far, but I am always grateful to see it in a HUD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnabelleApocalypse Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) Second the answers above. This is a common issue with alpha textures. The render engine does not know which order to display the textures and has a little mini-meltdown. Second life has two "modes" for standard alpha textures. Blending and masking. If you can, switch one of the items over to alpha masking (go to edit mode, click the "textures" tab and you should see a drop down menu for this next to the texture preview). Set the cut-off to 100 (play with this as you see fit). However, if both the items are no mod, your sh*t out of luck I am sorry to say. For whatever reason, hair is very often no mod. Edited November 13, 2021 by AnnabelleApocalypse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I went to check to see if I could try and make it happen on one of my bodies.. Strange thing is, I have zero alphas on and my system body doesn't even show now.. I remove my BOM skins from my head and it is pure white but still has my makeup on.. I'm showing I have a base skin on my system body but I'm invisible from the neck down when I remove my mesh body... hehehe I even tried really old skins from before mesh and nothing.. I don't remember it being like this a week or so ago.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalates Urriah Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Ceka Cianci said: I went to check to see if I could try and make it happen on one of my bodies.. Strange thing is, I have zero alphas on and my system body doesn't even show now.. I remove my BOM skins from my head and it is pure white but still has my makeup on.. I'm showing I have a base skin on my system body but I'm invisible from the neck down when I remove my mesh body... hehehe I even tried really old skins from before mesh and nothing.. I don't remember it being like this a week or so ago.. I've noticed that some times the BOM engine is very slow. I expect my body/head to go grey because I added or removed something that I know triggers a rebake. But nothing happens. THen later I do go grey and it may take a couple of minutes for the new bake to come back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nalates Urriah said: I've noticed that some times the BOM engine is very slow. I expect my body/head to go grey because I added or removed something that I know triggers a rebake. But nothing happens. THen later I do go grey and it may take a couple of minutes for the new bake to come back. It's not a real big deal because I'm never gonna run around in my system body anymore.. It is where I can't see my system body but my alt can.. I even did a clean and new install of my firestorm viewer.. I'm gonna try and see if it happens with the SL viewer.. I did notice a little bit back when I was skin shopping, I think last weekend maybe, that my mesh head was pure white.. It's just strange is all I guess, not that it's something I will be noticing all the time.. ETA: OK, I took off my Maitreya hud and it shows my system body now.. I may have to get a new hud or something.. I'm showing all in my alphas and my body is BOM, so it could also be a memory thing or something.. hehehehe ETA: Yep, That's what it was.. I just needed a new copy of my Maitreya hud.. Edited November 14, 2021 by Ceka Cianci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Herber Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Ok this is a thing with Belleza bodies and it took me a while to figure out, but because Belleza bodies are now modifyable, its an easy fix. The body is set to alpha blend, so it can use alpha mask layers. But this also leads to the problem you mentioned. Parts of the body go invisible when you wear something which also is alpha blended, like hair or lacy clothes, over it. Solution - rez the body on the ground, right click it and go into Edit. In the Texture tab, change the alpha mode from Blended to Masked, and give it a value of 1 or more (I usually set it to about 12, which helps avoid non-alpha spots if the original alpha mask was a bit fuzzy). Re-name the body so you know which one is which, and pick it back up again. You will probably need to do this in a sandbox, unless you own a lot of land with a lot of spare LI. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maitimo Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Thanyou @Karly Kiyori. I just picked up the Belleza bodies yesterday and couldn't figure out why the alpha layers weren't working. Turns out I was using the no mod version and it had alpha set to None. The mod one is a little tricky to find, its in another box labelled "Advanced users". For reference the LI of these bodies is 73. Not massive, but yeah, I needed to rez them in a sandbox. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenna Huntsman Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 This is caused by the body having the alpha mode set to Blending. You can change this in the Belleza HUD (Under Skin, in a box which will say either None, Blend or Mask). Click this to cycle through alpha modes. If you're using BoM, this should be set to Mask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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