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11 hours ago, xxVi3perxx said:

Oh geez don't make SL like IMVU it would be a total waste of time to make it like a PG-13 movie if all else make sure anyone who purchases adult content with an account is 18+ people really don't have to verify age on IMVU when purchasing Access Pass. I don't see a problem with adult content as long as it's with other adults in general. IMVU sucks in general most people moved from IMVU to SL for the realistic Adult content that IMVU doesn't provide. 

Only Fans is removing the adult content because the adult industry like the HUB is under a lot of pressure for people misusing it for gross content and the investors that Only Fans has don't want to support that kind of content being shown. 

 

So, since I have never had sex in SL (no that isn't a joke) the past 17 years have been a waste of my time? According to who? You? Fortunately for you, you don't get to dictate what does and doesn't constitute a waste of time for me. People can be perfectly happy without all the baggage slex carries with it. What doesn't make sense is the reason(s) why people are so afraid of losing the slex.  I'm not talking about the people who use SL for something they can't do in RL. 

Really, the only thing LL can do to try to put a stop to people having sex in SL is to ban all things "BDSM" and remove all scripting and objects for it.  LL can't stop people from having sex in SL but they can take away the toys. That may not have as large of an effect as you might think. There may be far more people in SL that don't have sex in SL than you might think. I know I am not alone.

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3 hours ago, Innula Zenovka said:

According to the BBC,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58255865

(If you want to know what word is OK with the BBC but not with the forum software, you'll have to read the article).

 

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ETA: Just to add, The above isn't a reaction to  the link in the quote, but to what was above it in the quote in your post..

I'm no good at getting quotes out of other peoples posts that I'm quoting.. hehehe

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I thought OnlyFans was pressured because of payment processors. LL has Tilia, they are their own payment processor (basically). I also feel like LL has always been pretty hands off with user content, only stepping in when third parties are giving them problems.

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While I, personally, wouldn't miss anything if there was no sex in SL - I've not done sexual stuff here for a bit over a decade now - I'm not so sure that SL would actually survive.  There is a lot of sex related content in SL and LL gets quite a bit of money from that side of things.

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I honestly don't think so, some use it as a means of self expression, some use it for fun. However, I don't think LL will stay hands off for the most part. I mean I don't have SLex, but I feel like if they did. They would be punishing the ones who did. Including the actual content being sold 

 

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1 hour ago, Innula Zenovka said:

According to the BBC,

Ah yes, the treasured institutionally transphobic bastion of impartiality that enabled and covered up for Jimmy Saville.

I'm sure their anonymous source called Christof isn't actually Nick Kristof .. no, it couldn't be. 

https://newrepublic.com/article/160488/nick-kristof-holy-war-pornhub

 

 

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1 hour ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

 

So, since I have never had sex in SL (no that isn't a joke) the past 17 years have been a waste of my time? According to who? You? Fortunately for you, you don't get to dictate what does and doesn't constitute a waste of time for me. People can be perfectly happy without all the baggage slex carries with it. What doesn't make sense is the reason(s) why people are so afraid of losing the slex.  I'm not talking about the people who use SL for something they can't do in RL. 

Really, the only thing LL can do to try to put a stop to people having sex in SL is to ban all things "BDSM" and remove all scripting and objects for it.  LL can't stop people from having sex in SL but they can take away the toys. That may not have as large of an effect as you might think. There may be far more people in SL that don't have sex in SL than you might think. I know I am not alone.

I don't think you took the time to read my response, The one I was responding too was talking about IMVU not second life. 

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26 minutes ago, Flea Yatsenko said:

I thought OnlyFans was pressured because of payment processors. LL has Tilia, they are their own payment processor (basically). I also feel like LL has always been pretty hands off with user content, only stepping in when third parties are giving them problems.

Tilia's status as a money transmitter etc is still subject to oversight by the financial regulation authorities in the US; approval of which was one of the preconditions of the recent acquisition going through.

As a result, the regulatory pressures on SL are pretty much the same as those which prompted the change on the OnlyFans service.

The approach taken by LL and its new owners will likely be dictated by their short to medium term plans for SL.

If the plan is to milk SL as a cash cow asset, then keeping the existing core userbase on side will be paramount - just as long as there is milk to be milked. LL will therefore be much more accepting of any forecast regulatory risk.

If the strategy is to try and attract more finance and/or expand into new markets and use cases, then it may be that some of the "activities" tacitly permitted by SL at the moment, will not be permitted in the future - this will be dictated by how palatable these "activities" are to the new target stakeholders.

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11 hours ago, xxVi3perxx said:

Oh geez don't make SL like IMVU it would be a total waste of time to make it like a PG-13 movie if all else make sure anyone who purchases adult content with an account is 18+ people really don't have to verify age on IMVU when purchasing Access Pass. I don't see a problem with adult content as long as it's with other adults in general. IMVU sucks in general most people moved from IMVU to SL for the realistic Adult content that IMVU doesn't provide. 

Only Fans is removing the adult content because the adult industry like the HUB is under a lot of pressure for people misusing it for gross content and the investors that Only Fans has don't want to support that kind of content being shown. 

I mean if that were the case why are they not going after Pornographic websites, specifically porn hub for allowing creators to upload whatever they want. That being the case, I mean if LL maybe put securities in place like showing an ID to prove you are 18+ I am all for that. 

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1 minute ago, Sammy Huntsman said:

I mean if that were the case why are they not going after Pornographic websites, specifically porn hub for allowing creators to upload whatever they want. That being the case, I mean if LL maybe put securities in place like showing an ID to prove you are 18+ I am all for that. 

It would be a better option than removing The Whole adult side of SL to verify the info it would need to take at least 3-5 business days for you to be able to see the adult side if the ID is legit. I have a lot of adult clothing like funny t-shirts that are of adult humor nature that I like to wear. A lot of creators in the shop of adult created items like clothing and accessories would be removed and the creator loses the profit. Doesn't have to be BDSM or anything it could be a dress that is a bit revealing that is rated Adult for that reason because it is not for the general and moderate side.

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4 minutes ago, xxVi3perxx said:

It would be a better option than removing The Whole adult side of SL to verify the info it would need to take at least 3-5 business days for you to be able to see the adult side if the ID is legit. I have a lot of adult clothing like funny t-shirts that are of adult humor nature that I like to wear. A lot of creators in the shop of adult created items like clothing and accessories would be removed and the creator loses the profit. Doesn't have to be BDSM or anything it could be a dress that is a bit revealing that is rated Adult for that reason because it is not for the general and moderate side.

I would rather show my ID than it be taken away from everyone. I may be conservative and modest with sex and sexuality. But I don't want to see the grid go like how I am, it wouldn't be fair for the rest of you guys. But yeah, that would be the better alternative and I love meeting in the middle. So if they want to get stingy about that stuff, make us prove our age. 

 

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17 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said:

I mean if that were the case why are they not going after Pornographic websites, specifically porn hub for allowing creators to upload whatever they want. That being the case, I mean if LL maybe put securities in place like showing an ID to prove you are 18+ I am all for that. 

But PornHub is also increasingly under the gun:

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/pornhub-removes-videos-and-online-tours-based-on-works-in-louvre-uffizi-and-prado-collections

"In recent weeks, OnlyFans has been under fire for allegations of hosting child sexual abuse material and enabling sex trafficking. It’s part of a broader reckoning over the presence of child sexual abuse material in the loosely regulated internet pornography industry. Already, the reckoning has caused the major pornography website Xtube to announce that it will shut down in September; Mastercard and Visa to block the use of their cards on Pornhub; and Germany to announce that it may ban pornography sites from its national internet." https://spectator.org/the-pornography-empire-continues-its-collapse-onlyfans-has-fallen/

"Pornhub says it has removed all videos uploaded by non-verified users after the adult website faced accusations it hosted illegal content. The move came after Visa and MasterCard launched investigations and decided in December to stop allowing their cards to be used on Pornhub. Between eight and 10 million videos uploaded by unverified users were removed from the website after the change, Tassillo, MindGeek co-owner and chief operating officer, told the committee." https://infotel.ca/newsitem/pornhub-testimony/cp514023904

 

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I mean it makes sense, if you want to partake in adult stuff IRL, you have to show your ID to prove that you are age of Majority and I think it needs to come to SL. I mean it would protect LL from issues later on, and people won't lose their sex in SL. 

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Just now, Arielle Popstar said:

But PornHub is also increasingly under the gun:

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/pornhub-removes-videos-and-online-tours-based-on-works-in-louvre-uffizi-and-prado-collections

"In recent weeks, OnlyFans has been under fire for allegations of hosting child sexual abuse material and enabling sex trafficking. It’s part of a broader reckoning over the presence of child sexual abuse material in the loosely regulated internet pornography industry. Already, the reckoning has caused the major pornography website Xtube to announce that it will shut down in September; Mastercard and Visa to block the use of their cards on Pornhub; and Germany to announce that it may ban pornography sites from its national internet." https://spectator.org/the-pornography-empire-continues-its-collapse-onlyfans-has-fallen/

"Pornhub says it has removed all videos uploaded by non-verified users after the adult website faced accusations it hosted illegal content. The move came after Visa and MasterCard launched investigations and decided in December to stop allowing their cards to be used on Pornhub. Between eight and 10 million videos uploaded by unverified users were removed from the website after the change, Tassillo, MindGeek co-owner and chief operating officer, told the committee." https://infotel.ca/newsitem/pornhub-testimony/cp514023904

 

Then here is a plan, and I know it may be surprising. Instead of it being loosely regulated, it be heavily regulated. I mean to the point where one has to show their ID to prove their age, and not just a credit card. Also hand a most recent picture, that they can use to compare to said ID. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said:

Then here is a plan, and I know it may be surprising. Instead of it being loosely regulated, it be heavily regulated. I mean to the point where one has to show their ID to prove their age, and not just a credit card. Also hand a most recent picture, that they can use to compare to said ID

 

Surely that will go over like a lead balloon, especially considering how often big tech companies get hacked for all their user accounts and passwords. Now they can also get a picture!

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42 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:

Ah yes, the treasured institutionally transphobic bastion of impartiality that enabled and covered up for Jimmy Saville

 

 

There really is no need to call the BBC transphobic.

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8 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

Surely that will go over like a lead balloon, especially considering how often big tech companies get hacked for all their user accounts and passwords. Now they can also get a picture!

I mean it is a better alternative to what is going on right now. 

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6 hours ago, Finite said:

You would see a lot of people leave but at the same time SL's sexual content is what kind of limits its growth today. 18 years since the beginning of SL and a lot of people don't even know it exists. And most of those that do just hear that it's a pervie game. SL is limited to where and how it can showcase itself because of its adult content. I find it more of a hinderance than a benefit tbh. 

SL is limiting its own growth by the limits of its technology.

If it could handle 100+ players doing combat without lagging to hell then SL would be booming in other ways.

But since the tech had such issues the only thing that can grow without being effected is the sex stuff in SL

You can't even have a Fair event like Collabor88 without immense lag. 

So sex content is not holding back SL, it is SL holding itself back. Sex content is just keeping it alive.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

Really, the only thing LL can do to try to put a stop to people having sex in SL is to ban all things "BDSM" and remove all scripting and objects for it.  LL can't stop people from having sex in SL but they can take away the toys. That may not have as large of an effect as you might think. There may be far more people in SL that don't have sex in SL than you might think. I know I am not alone.

What? No. That's just silly and it'll only appease the religious crowd that wouldn't play SL anyway. It'll just be a net loss in cash and players.

Having BDSM in SL is great cause it provides people a change to explore something safe from home in s way they couldn't in RL.

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3 minutes ago, Angelina Sinclair said:

What? No. That's just silly and it'll only appease the religious crowd that wouldn't play SL anyway. It'll just be a net loss in cash and players.

Having BDSM in SL is great cause it provides people a change to explore something safe from home in s way they couldn't in RL.

Again that is why I am saying there is a way to appease everyone. Proof of age, and not credit cards. But an actual piece of ID and a current pic of yourself. There bible thumpers and hypersexuals are appeased. 

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11 minutes ago, Angelina Sinclair said:

What? No. That's just silly and it'll only appease the religious crowd that wouldn't play SL anyway. It'll just be a net loss in cash and players.

Having BDSM in SL is great cause it provides people a change to explore something safe from home in s way they couldn't in RL.

Did you not notice that I had put BDSM inside of quotations marks? That should have been a clue that I was not meaning BDSM specifically. They just happen to have the most toys which is what LL would have to ban IF they ban anything.

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