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Hi all,

So there's the full-story:

June 2 at 23:54 I purchased a homestead for L$8 from a 'landlord'.

June 3 at 00:02 I pucheased L$10,000 from LL to pay the weekly tier.

June 3 at 00:03 I TP'ed to the tier center provided by the 'landlord' to pay tier over a 'terminal' looking thingy - L$7,500.

June 3 at 00:05 I followed the instructions on the 'landlord's profile, IM'ed her "I need EM rights to be transferred, thanks."

June 3 at 09:01 The landlord replied my IM saying "transferred?"

June 3 at 22:02 I replied to the landlord's IM: "Do you mean the rights are transferred? But I still can't edit terrain texture etc."

June 3 at 22:42 I sent another IM: "So far the first day of me renting this homestead, I couldn't get much done due to the fact I IM'ed you in regards to EM rights, yet your respond were nice and short "transferred?" with no further explanation of what is that supposed to mean, is that a question or a saecasm? For all I know I am still unable to do anything in the Region/Estate window, that includes change terrain texture set region time nor broadcast region-wide message. Very not happy at all for the unprofessional and unefficient service."

June 4 at 08:48 The landlord replied me with something similar to this: I  lchecked the system and you haven't pay me any rent, so I need clarification as to what "transferred" meant. You are not a renter even though you have paid the 8L but failed to comply with the covenant which clearly states weekly rental is due immediately. I'm sorry if you feel this is unprofessional or sarcastic but I provide support only to paying customers. 

At the same time, I found myself got booted from the homestead, and can no longer access it as well.

June 4 at 22:52 I replied to the landlord with a screenshot of my transaction history from the LL account page, "So you're saying I DIDN'T PAY? I paid L$8 then paid another L$7500 at the tier center through the termainal. Here's the record."

I feel like I'm being scammed... need advice please :(

 

Gil.

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Hi Gil,

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I looked at dates once again and actually there very small difference of payements. Have a look in Dashboard at past transactions. Check if they for sure were payed to this person. You can make a note card with transactions numbes, amunts and dates and send to the owner. Be sure that you are talking with the same person that you have payed. There can be managers so go to the owner directly.

If this doesn't help and money are not returned you can send abuse report. Next time talk with owner BEFORE you pay anything. Ask questions about covenant. Ask your friends which land owners they know and can advice.  

 

 

 

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Gil Hema wrote:

Hi all,

So there's the full-story:

June 2 at 23:54 I purchased a homestead for L$8 from a 'landlord'.

June 3 at 00:02 I pucheased L$10,000 from LL to pay the weekly tier.

June 3 at 00:03 I TP'ed to the tier center provided by the 'landlord' to pay tier over a 'terminal' looking thingy - L$7,500.

June 3 at 00:05 I followed the instructions on the 'landlord's profile, IM'ed her "I need EM rights to be transferred, thanks."

June 3 at 09:01 The landlord replied my IM saying "transferred?"

June 3 at 22:02 I replied to the landlord's IM: "Do you mean the rights are transferred? But I still can't edit terrain texture etc."

June 3 at 22:42 I sent another IM: "So far the first day of me renting this homestead, I couldn't get much done due to the fact I IM'ed you in regards to EM rights, yet your respond were nice and short "transferred?" with no further explanation of what is that supposed to mean, is that a question or a saecasm? For all I know I am still unable to do anything in the Region/Estate window, that includes change terrain texture set region time nor broadcast region-wide message. Very not happy at all for the unprofessional and unefficient service."

June 4 at 08:48 The landlord replied me with something similar to this: I  lchecked the system and you haven't pay me any rent, so I need clarification as to what "transferred" meant. You are not a renter even though you have paid the 8L but failed to comply with the covenant which clearly states weekly rental is due immediately. I'm sorry if you feel this is unprofessional or sarcastic but I provide support only to paying customers. 

At the same time, I found myself got booted from the homestead, and can no longer access it as well.

June 4 at 22:52 I replied to the landlord with a screenshot of my transaction history from the LL account page, "So you're saying I DIDN'T PAY? I paid L$8 then paid another L$7500 at the tier center through the termainal. Here's the record."

I feel like I'm being scammed... need advice please
:(

 

Gil.

ok..first of all..you didnt "purchase" the homestead, you paid "rent". Some landlords allow you to have estate rights, some dont..you should have read the covenant to find out what they allow before paying really.

Some landlords permit terrain to be altered, some dont..again..reading the covenant would have cleared this up.

You dont get the homestead "transferred" to you, youre renting it not buying it, it will always be in the name of the landlord and you will get Estate manager rights. I think your use of the word "transferred" is the problem here..although it does seem as if the landlord wasnt overly helpful towards you.

If you bump heads with people and make accusations about being scammed...its not going to make anything easier..this couldve been cleared up so simply, it does also sound as if you didnt adhere to the terms & conditions of paying tier straight away..you paid for the land one day, the rent/tier the next.and they asked that it be paid straight away.If a landlord is going to be picky and has stated the terms & conditions and you dont adhere to them..this is what happens I guess.

Youve had some good advice about contacting the landlord and checking that the person you contact is the person you paid..Id go with that and see if you can reach a resolution amicably between you.

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Gil Hema wrote:

I took a screenshot from the past transactions, both the 8L and 7500L is being paid to the same person, 9 minutes apart.

yes I noticed that...but as I said before..they seem to be picky..and its two different days. Id really suggest you try to speak to the person concerned about this, no one can resolve it on the forums for you, merely give you their opinions..if your reasonable and realise that the land is being rented by you not owned..and approach them in a calm manner..perhaps you can sort it out amicably. It appears there has been confusion on both ends...SL isnt a precise science with regard to transaction history showing up for both parties either (had that happen to me a few times with people claiming rent paid and I have nothing on my end for a few hours)

Without knowing the landlords version of this..and only yours..Id say theyve been not very helpful ...hope you can get it resolved :matte-motes-confused:

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I agree with the others that have posted that you should check to make sure that you paid the same person that you are talking to, if so I would suggest that you tone down the way you are speaking to them.

I appreciate that you may feel scammed, but that may not be the case at all, it could just be a misunderstanding and throwing accusations of being unprofessional or sarcastic is not a good start to landlord/tenant relationship.

The owner apolgised to you for you feeling they were being rude, perhaps you should try doing the same and see if you can get the dialogue going again on a better footing.

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So as the landlord told me I didn't pay weekly tier and therefore I didn't follow the terms and conditions, which I did, I paid the L7500  weekly tier 9 minutes after I paid the L8 land purchase fees. Despite it steps into two different days, but it was still only 9 minutes apart regardless, compares to 86,400 minutes in 24 hours (a day), that 9 minutes is only 0.01% of a day's time.

I was rude because I did all that I can, pay weekly tier right after I paid the land puchase fee, then IM'ed landlord for EM rights. All these actions are according to the instructions given on the landlord's profile. Payment were made to the same person according to my past transactions record at the dashboard, was very immediate as well since 2 transactions were only 9 minutes apart.

I am mad because the landlord simply boot me out of the land that I DID pay tier for, didn't even want to investigate the matter. Her first reply was not descriptive enough for others to understand what she actually mean, her second reply were saying I did not pay her, and then she blocked my access to the region, even the place where I TP'ed to pay the weekly tiers to her, she blocked all my access.

I reported her for land fraud, but as I cannot access to either the region nor the tier center, I do not think this is positive at all. There's nothing else I can do. Oh well lucky its only like USD$40, just the price of a cheap 3 course lunch, so glad I did not pay L30,000 for a month at once then this happen. I'm over with it, a good reason to draw me away from SL and not to trust pixelated 'contact' where unlike real life, there's no enforcing laws nor the rights as a consmer here.

And finally, she is paying more cash per month to LL then I do, so I doubt the result of the report abuse (land fraud) will be justice. That's just the way the world we created works, right?

Peace all, and thanks for all the advice~

 

Gil.

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I absolutely know why you reacted like you did & can see how frustrating it is from your point of view. I also agree that it sounds like the owner reacted (or overeacted) a bit hastily.

I have run a land rental buisness in SL before (never again lol) and you wouldn`t believe the number of IMs that you get & they start from the second that you login with a whole stack of offline messages and then all the new ones start to ding as well. You do your best to answer them all "politely" but all it takes is one person to put you in a bad mood and then you get a slightly confusing message about "transferring EM" which makes you go .. huh?...so you throw back a vague "transferred?" and the next thing you are being insulted.

Possibly they looked quickly for your payment & didn`t see it where they expected it be and they thought, here we go again, another numpty that didn`t read the rules and is blaming me!! & then overeacted instead of looking into further.

I am not excusing the owner or even saying that you definately haven`t been scammed, I am just pointing out that maybe the 2 of you had an unclear communication at a bad time and it got out of hand & that MAYBE, if you send a calm, clear notecard explaining your situation, that you can start over and get a better result.. Can`t hurt to try :)

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Well, the last time I IM'ed her was 2 days ago, with a screenshot of the transaction history from my dashboard page. I specifically quoted out in red brackets the 2 transactions (L8 and L7500) that I've made to her, with another transaction of me purchased L10000 from LL. Until now, there were still no respond. I already  did all I can, IMed her, reported a land fraud abuse, still nothing. One thing I'm sure though, that is 1 day of my life worths more than USD$40, so I might as well just get over it. 

This is actually the second time I rent full region on SL. Maybe because the first time, with a different landlord, it was a very good experience, extremely efficient and helpful, that's why I expected too much about this from this current landlord.

However, it doesn't matter if it is virtual or real life, whether it's a business-owner or an employee, difficult customers are everywhere, across all different industries, both internaly and externally. Not being able to handle self emotions and deal each customers as seperate individuals is the ultimate reason for not able to maintain loyalty customers. Perhaps in real life, if it is a monopolized business then customers would have no choice. Yet there're so many choices out there on SL with this real-estate business, the bigger the challenge meaning the higher EQ is required. As a business-owner, his/her professionalism and ethical business behaviour means everything to his/her own business. And then of course, if anyone ask me to recommend who they should rent full region from, the landlord I have had bad experience with would definitely not be the one I recommend. 

"You get what you give", and I still believe justice do exist.

 

Gil.

 

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