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So there is a new portable device called the Steam Deck coming out in December. Steam is an online game store for PC games and is also known for it’s VR support and it’s parent company Valve.  It’s essentially a portable game computer in the same form as the the Nintendo Switch. You can run anything that you can run on a PC. I’ve always been looking for a way to play SL when I go out someplace and the only option would be a gaming laptop which is typically quite expensive. The Steam Deck comes in at $400 at it’s lowest configuration with 64gb storage with optional plug in sd card storage. What do you think? Is this the low price gaming computer we’ve been waiting for?

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3 minutes ago, Bree Giffen said:

So there is a new portable device called the Steam Deck coming out in December. Steam is an online game store for PC games and is also known for it’s VR support and it’s parent company Valve.  It’s essentially a portable game computer in the same form as the the Nintendo Switch. You can run anything that you can run on a PC. I’ve always been looking for a way to play SL when I go out someplace and the only option would be a gaming laptop which is typically quite expensive. The Steam Deck comes in at $400 at it’s lowest configuration with 64gb storage with optional plug in sd card storage. What do you think? Is this the low price gaming computer we’ve been waiting for?

While it CAN run Windows 10, that doesn’t mean you should try downloading SL on it. It won’t work. (Before someone attempts this).

That being said, the $400 one is complete crap. It’s equivalent to a $300 laptop you buy from Walmart. It will be slower than a snail. I’m getting the next tier up which is much faster but more expensive. 

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40 minutes ago, Chris Nova said:

While it CAN run Windows 10, that doesn’t mean you should try downloading SL on it. It won’t work. (Before someone attempts this).

That being said, the $400 one is complete crap. It’s equivalent to a $300 laptop you buy from Walmart. It will be slower than a snail. I’m getting the next tier up which is much faster but more expensive. 

it's an amd gaming device,  it will work once you install windows 10 on it, but.  people are going to be upset about the controls.

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It runs arch Linux. You can install Linux builds of the viewer on it, or use proton to run the viewer in a windows compatibility layer. 

It features both touch screen and control inputs, and with the new control settings being rolled out soon, remapping the controls to the gamepad controls should be a brease.

I have pre-ordered the 512GiB model, and will be installing firestorm on it as proof of concept and for mobile SL. Additionally remote play is a feature I will be exploring to see if I can utilize my GPU of my desktop remotely.

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20 minutes ago, bigmoe Whitfield said:

it's an amd gaming device,  it will work once you install windows 10 on it, but.  people are going to be upset about the controls.

I suppose you can hook up a keyboard and mouse to it but it’s not going to be ideal. I don’t think it’s going to be powerful enough to run something like SL. Def not the $400 starter version 

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What you have to remember is that the Steam Deck is a handheld device.

You can't fit one of these in a portable device

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A CPU that gets too hot will throttle. This is physics.

Modern CPU's can achieve more with less heat output, but only if the game is optimized itself i.e. running on a modern engine and designed to be power efficient.

SecondLife is not power efficient and can't take advantage of modern CPU's. I'd guess you will probably be able to cook an egg on your handheld console after playing SecondLife on it for 20 minutes.

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Cooking eggs while playing sounds like a nice multi-functional feature! But I think it has sone kind of heat management and the chips are designed to run cooler. Maybe they use water cooling? The company is called Steam after all.

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20 minutes ago, animats said:

....and worth trying SL upon.

*side eyes the room full of computers that only get powered on to test SL viewers* .. I will be very interested to see how it runs and what it can do. But I'm also betting I have a $50 thrift store laptop that will kick its butt.

Also a little leery when it comes to valve and hardware support, they have a track record of releasing something awesome, leaving it up to the community to make functional, forgetting it exists and then dumping the excess stock.

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5 hours ago, Bree Giffen said:

So there is a new portable device called the Steam Deck coming out in December. Steam is an online game store for PC games and is also known for it’s VR support and it’s parent company Valve.  It’s essentially a portable game computer in the same form as the the Nintendo Switch. You can run anything that you can run on a PC. I’ve always been looking for a way to play SL when I go out someplace and the only option would be a gaming laptop which is typically quite expensive. The Steam Deck comes in at $400 at it’s lowest configuration with 64gb storage with optional plug in sd card storage. What do you think? Is this the low price gaming computer we’ve been waiting for?

'We' are not blowing a months food budget on a useless toy as 'we' don't live in Mums cellar for many years. 40 bucks? yeah for a useless toy at xmas that two can share. Or 10x over a year to keep 3 boxes at a reasonably cracking pace

Plus Steam is the biggest bloatware I have ever met and I used to do mainframes

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1 hour ago, Coffee Pancake said:

Also a little leery when it comes to valve and hardware support, they have a track record of releasing something awesome, leaving it up to the community to make functional, forgetting it exists and then dumping the excess stock.

Um, yes. Same reason you don't want to use a Google service for anything that has to run for years.

SL on Google Stadia comes to mind. (The basic problem with running games on remote clients, i.e. "game streaming" is that either it costs too much, or it's being sold at a loss to get market share until the price can be raised so that it costs too much. Although having SL on GeForce Now would be nice. There's a free tier, which lets you get an hour of connect time before you're kicked off and go to the end of the line. For those times when you really need to log in from a phone.)

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I thought about this, possibly after someone mentioned it - but the thing is, it will only be useful to existing SL users who want to get on SL while on the go, which is good for those people.

But having proper Android / iOS viewers would be more useful in term of reaching out to new people since most people won't get Steam Deck just to get on SL, and those who did get Steam Deck to game won't suddenly get on SL because they got a Steam Deck, they would've gotten on SL on PC to begin with if they're interested in SL

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Yes, I still think SL needs a mobile viewer for the Apple and Android devices to really get a new audience. The Steam Deck will only appeal to PC and handheld console gamers... of which I am. I will wait until there are reviews of the actual product by people who have bought it.

But, I am reserving one for 2022. It’s only $5 to reserve and you can cancel any time.

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