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Your object 'Rock wall corner with waterfall' has been returned to your inventory Lost and Found folder by (blank) Resident from parcel ('MY LAND') at Catupiry 97, 94 due to parcel owner return 

Ok first off im new to building here BUT im pretty sure there could of been a better way to handle this how is this even allowed??? majority of IT WAS ON MY LAND maybe a tiny bit poked thru the boundary ive been trying really hard to not go over the borders and these neighbors have made it super hard to build along that side of my structure thus my following questions and i really need some help! can someone just pick up an object of YOURS and TOSS IT BACK at you even if only a little bit of it was on their side??? like done here and if so as i imagine its possible seeing it got done to me here with multiple objects not just this and second so i dont go over the boundary line i used to be able to see the line when i build idk what prompted the neighbors but they suddenly have "disappeared" from view and its made my job even harder to figure out what could possibly be accidentally to close to their boundary that it suddenly overlap giving them the right to just pick up the WHOLE THING and yeeet it back at me seeing as this can get very frustrating QUICK rebuilding over and over again can i please get some guidance on how i can see my boundary lines OR BETTER YET put up that wall people talk about with the yellow lines that look like a cage lmao idk if that be the way to go but one my other neighbors on the other side has it and its been extremely helpful to see where im building there xD i wish these people could of just PRIVATE MESSAGE me about the "issue" if they had one so i could have had a chance to move over my build instead of having to start over but looks like common decency has escaped a lot of people.. looks like today ill be forced to keep rebuilding thanks to anyone that helps give me ideas i will really appreciate it

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2 minutes ago, xicadelik said:

majority of IT WAS ON MY LAND

If your objects overflow onto another persons land, even by a tiny amount, they can return it.

This is a good thing.

CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+P will toggle parcel borders so you can see what you're doing.

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1 minute ago, Coffee Pancake said:

If your objects overflow onto another persons land, even by a tiny amount, they can return it.

This is a good thing.

CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+P will toggle parcel borders so you can see what you're doing.

i guess good for them but highly inconvenient for the one building i must say whole structure just gone cause one tiny bit strayed? and majority is on my land lmao just crazy but i really do appreciate u helping me try and toggle my borders much appreciate it 

 

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2 hours ago, xicadelik said:

Your object 'Rock wall corner with waterfall' has been returned

Ah.

Some hints.

  • Land ownership rights in SL are very strong. As a result, this place is mostly self-governed through land ownership. There's a Linden Lab "governance" team to enforce rules, but it's quite small.
  • Building a wall around your land is allowed, but your neighbors may not like it. If you can, build something that fits well with your surroundings. This is a shared world, and it looks better if we cooperate. If you want total isolation, there are some areas where everybody has a walled, isolated parcel.
  • If you build a waterfall, and there's no place the water can come from, it looks fake. Waterfalls need hills or mountains.
  • Spend some time looking at good builds created through cooperation. Bay City.The Confederation of Democratic Simulators. New Babbage.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, animats said:

Ah.

Some hints.

  • Land ownership rights in SL are very strong. As a result, this place is mostly self-governed through land ownership. There's a Linden Lab "governance" team to enforce rules, but it's quite small.
  • Building a wall around your land is allowed, but your neighbors may not like it. If you can, build something that fits well with your surroundings. This is a shared world, and it looks better if we cooperate. If you want total isolation, there are some areas where everybody has a walled, isolated parcel.
  • If you build a waterfall, and there's no place the water can come from, it looks fake. Waterfalls need hills or mountains.
  • Spend some time looking at good builds created through cooperation. Bay City.The Confederation of Democratic Simulators. New Babbage.

 

 

im glad u mention it cause well honestly the only reason i build myself a wall around me was cause THEY Had a huge building closed off floating in the middle of the ocean too close to my boundary lol that dint make much sense or was pretty to look at tbh but then its suddenly "disappeared" hmm i wonder if they blocked me?? cause i cant no longer see their build or ban lines and thats what made me think they were gone so i started building more confidently closer to the border and boom got hit with this lmao is there any way to block them back from viewing MY Land?? like how do you go about that cause its clear we already on the wrong foot of the start of this neighbor relations aspect  

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19 minutes ago, animats said:

Ah.

Some hints.

  • Land ownership rights in SL are very strong. As a result, this place is mostly self-governed through land ownership. There's a Linden Lab "governance" team to enforce rules, but it's quite small.
  • Building a wall around your land is allowed, but your neighbors may not like it. If you can, build something that fits well with your surroundings. This is a shared world, and it looks better if we cooperate. If you want total isolation, there are some areas where everybody has a walled, isolated parcel.
  • If you build a waterfall, and there's no place the water can come from, it looks fake. Waterfalls need hills or mountains.
  • Spend some time looking at good builds created through cooperation. Bay City.The Confederation of Democratic Simulators. New Babbage.

 

 

btw thank you for your assistance ^.^

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Well, you might not like it but she had a point there.

On Topic: It doesn't matter how close your neighbours were building to the border. As long as they are still on their own parcel, they can put whatever they like along said border even if it makes you feel claustrophobic. On a sidenote: There was another thread not too long ago where someone wondered why she got her item sent back when she could not see it intruding her neighbour's parcel. It turned out that it was the bounding box that was a lot bigger than what she actually saw (a tree). Just a hint to keep such things in mind, too, if you rez out things that "look" within parcel lines but turn out to be actually not. 

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2 hours ago, Yukiko Yeshto said:

Well, you might not like it but she had a point there.

On Topic: It doesn't matter how close your neighbours were building to the border. As long as they are still on their own parcel, they can put whatever they like along said border even if it makes you feel claustrophobic. On a sidenote: There was another thread not too long ago where someone wondered why she got her item sent back when she could not see it intruding her neighbour's parcel. It turned out that it was the bounding box that was a lot bigger than what she actually saw (a tree). Just a hint to keep such things in mind, too, if you rez out things that "look" within parcel lines but turn out to be actually not. 

a point?? when i'm CLEARLY asking for help and i get SARCASM instead?? you people need check yourself seriously 

i understand THAT thats why I Went ahead and did the EXACT same except when I DID it they decided to go invisible and it made me think there was no one there so i kept building near the borders too and OMG thank you! for the sidenote now this is on point as IM NEW TO BUILDING ON This platform so these kinda hints really help! is there anyway to tell the outline of the bounding box when i rez things along the border?? i think i fixed the issue now but id love to make sure its dealt with correctly ty for trying to help!

 

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If you press CNTRL +ALT +T you should be able to see objects that are invisible, press the same key combination to turn it off.  Also another nice tool to use, is to highlight the object you are working on - I believe that option is in your edit menu that pops open every time you edit an object.  It should be a check box next to "Show Highlights"

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31 minutes ago, So Whimsy said:

I'm glad I'm not your neighbor.

umm okay? and IM GLAD IM NOT YOURS but how is this in anyway helpful??? can you take your negativity elsewhere please and GTFO my post dont let door hit you on way out! -smh-

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11 minutes ago, Istelathis said:

If you press CNTRL +ALT +T you should be able to see objects that are invisible, press the same key combination to turn it off.  Also another nice tool to use, is to highlight the object you are working on - I believe that option is in your edit menu that pops open every time you edit an object.  It should be a check box next to "Show Highlights"

AWESOME!! thank you so very much :) this really helps and yesss i believe i have seen the highlight tool you speak off and wasnt sure what it did much appreciate it Im so glad not everyone on here is out to attack me when im trying to fix this thanks for helping out a newb !!!

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@xicadelikYou're welcome, another trick that might help out is to create a prim along your property edge, make it thin and resize it so it will make it easier to see any objects that may be poking into the neighbors yard.

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Alternatively, if you are using firestorm they have an excellent option that will highlight your property lines which you will be able to use at any height.  Unfortunately, only firestorm has this option as far as I am aware.  It is in the preferences under Firestorm->build2  "Highlight boundary"

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1 minute ago, Istelathis said:

@xicadelikYou're welcome, another trick that might help out is to create a prim along your property edge, make it thin and resize it so it.  It will make it easier to see any objects that may be poking into the neighbors yard.

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oh yess yess i heard about this for when you build things up in the air! it comes very handy but idk how to make a prim.. i just started building like a week ago is this something you buy? 

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I just logged on and i think i deff fixed the issue cause everything was were i left it i bought the boundary tracer tool from the market and it has helped tremendously :D 

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@xicadelikIf you right click on the ground, there should be an option for "create" or it might be "build", if you click that option your cursor should turn into a wand and if you click  that wand, a prim will be created in that spot.  After it is created, you can move it around or resize it, if you push CTRL+shift, you should be able to resize it by dragging the little nobs that show up on it

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1 minute ago, Istelathis said:

@xicadelikIf you right click on the ground, there should be an option for "create" or it might be "build", your cursor should turn into a wand and if you click  that wand, a prim will be created in that spot.  After it is created, you can move it around or resize it, if you push CTRL+shift, you should be able to resize it by dragging the little nobs that show up on it

yessss i see now created awee ive just created my first prim! lol now i feel like a REAL Builder ive been buying EVERYHTING from floors to walls and rails... i was almost positive there had to be a tool like this somewhere! this little guy can deff save me some money! i think i can even texture it, shape it and stuffs personalize it ect THANK YOU!! cant thank u enough im super exited for this ^.^ im the creative type so this helps so much!! xooxoxoxo

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15 hours ago, xicadelik said:

people could of just PRIVATE MESSAGE me about the "issue" if they had one so i could have had a chance to move over my build instead of having to start over but looks like common decency has escaped a lot of people.. looks like today ill be forced to keep rebuilding thanks to anyone that helps give me ideas i will really appreciate it

OR...maybe you could have had some common decency and PRIVATE MESSAGED them about the "issue" if you wanted to encroach on their property. Chances are they may have said that was fine but you just assumed that they should not be upset because you were JUST using a little sliver of their land.  However, judging from your responses to this thread they probably would have said no.

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1 hour ago, xicadelik said:

oh yess yess i heard about this for when you build things up in the air! it comes very handy but idk how to make a prim.. i just started building like a week ago is this something you buy? 

Remember...youtube is your friend. It's a shame you have such an ugly personality for such a pretty girl.

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5 minutes ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

OR...maybe you could have had some common decency and PRIVATE MESSAGED them about the "issue" if you wanted to encroach on their property. Chances are they may have said that was fine but you just assumed that they should not be upset because you were JUST using a little sliver of their land.  However, judging from your responses to this thread they probably would have said no.

umm Are your READING CAPABILITIES FLAWED or is the concept just too hard to UNDERSTAND that it just went right over your head??? that IM NEW TO BUILDING I DINT WANT TO or EVEN MEAN to ENCROACH upon ANYONE! thus the "ISSUE" THEY CLEARLY SEEN WAS COMPLETELY -ONE SIDED- since i had no idea i done anything wrong when i assumed they vacated the land i kept going about my business and they REPLICATED IN SUCH A RUDE FASHION When they are the VETERANS and im only just learning!!! so i have ALL MY RIGHT TO BE the offended and UPSET one when this could of gone a different way HAD "THE VET" Been the BIGGER PERSON and helped out a newbie that dint know what they were doing any wrong with few misplaced objects that now thanks to some nice people here IM being the bigger person and FIXING IT instead of going back and forth with this rude ass neighbor

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3 minutes ago, xicadelik said:

umm Are your READING CAPABILITIES FLAWED or is the concept just too hard to UNDERSTAND that it just went right over your head??? that IM NEW TO BUILDING I DINT WANT TO or EVEN MEAN to ENCROACH upon ANYONE! thus the "ISSUE" THEY CLEARLY SEEN WAS COMPLETELY -ONE SIDED- since i had no idea i done anything wrong when i assumed they vacated the land i kept going about my business and they REPLICATED IN SUCH A RUDE FASHION When they are the VETERANS and im only just learning!!! so i have ALL MY RIGHT TO BE the offended and UPSET one when this could of gone a different way HAD "THE VET" Been the BIGGER PERSON and helped out a newbie that dint know what they were doing any wrong with few misplaced objects that now thanks to some nice people here IM being the bigger person and FIXING IT instead of going back and forth with this rude ass neighbor

You are not going to last 10 seconds in SL with that attitude. smiles...good luck to you. Also...BTW how would they even know you were a newbie? You could be a 14 year old veteran with a new account? Think on that a bit.

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33 minutes ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

Remember...youtube is your friend. It's a shame you have such an ugly personality for such a pretty girl.

there u go again judging my character and personality when lady you dont even KNOW ME so ima have to ask you to please leave my topic if this is all you gonna do i asked for HELP HERE this is what the forums are FOR am i correct??? thus sending me to another site is completely unnecessary when i can get answers here if people weren't so stuck on attacking NEW PEOPLE 

 

p.s and well if they are anything LIKE U and a few on here stuck up on ASSUMING, JUDGING and being plain HATEFUL then i suppose not but like i stated earlier "common decency" sending a message COMMUNICATION introduction and getting to know your neighbors while they are out there attempting to build would of gone long ways I UNDERSTAND THIS GOES BOTH WAYS but like i already said I FAILED TO SEE THE ISSUE or that there was even one until THEY MADE THE CHOICE To make it hard on ME not the other way around when its taken a lot to learn this stuff also ON MY PROFILE I STATE WHERE I CAME FROM ANOTHER VIRTUAL LAND and that im new here but if that wouldnt suffice then idk man seeing me struggle and my fails on there at how id been building should of been enough to tell im new tbh 

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1 hour ago, xicadelik said:

THEY MADE THE CHOICE To make it hard on ME not the other way around when its taken a lot to learn this stuff also

Yes but please understand that the people on this forum and your neighbours are all regular SL users, just like you. You're not happy about how SL works? Well, we aren't always either but there's nothing we can do expect try to tell you how it is. You're blaming the messengers for the message here and that is never a good idea.

 

2 hours ago, xicadelik said:

yessss i see now created awee ive just created my first prim! lol now i feel like a REAL Builder

That's lovely to hear! :)

Building with prims isn't only useful, it can be great fun too!

There are several places in Second Life where you can get lessons in prim building. Builders Brewery and the Haapy Hipsters Building School are probably the most active ones at the moment. The lessons are free but if you have a few Lindens to spare, please tip the school and/or the teacher.

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14 hours ago, ChinRey said:

Yes but please understand that the people on this forum and your neighbours are all regular SL users, just like you. You're not happy about how SL works? Well, we aren't always either but there's nothing we can do expect try to tell you how it is. You're blaming the messengers for the message here and that is never a good idea.

 

That's lovely to hear! :)

Building with prims isn't only useful, it can be great fun too!

There are several places in Second Life where you can get lessons in prim building. Builders Brewery and the Haapy Hipsters Building School are probably the most active ones at the moment. The lessons are free but if you have a few Lindens to spare, please tip the school and/or the teacher.

oh im pretty sure u can see that how SL "works" and how people "choose" to relay that information are two totally different things that i was unhappy about if some of these "messengers" here were a little bit more kind and helpful with helping me learn and understand how this stuff comes to be instead of blatantly attacking me for no reason then there wouldn't have been any lash back on on my behalf i simply give back what is being given to me..

oh and i do thank you so much for the leads toward the places that can help me learn ❤️ looking forward to that greatly :D

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