dbldbl Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Hello, I run a Windows7 computer thus I can't log anymore with the SL viewer or Firestorm. Is there viewers which allows me to log? Thanks. In the meanwhile, may someone tell 'tiny alena' that I miss her a lot? Thanks again for any help. Regards, Debbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I'm sorry. I believe you will need to upgrade to at least Win8. https://secondlife.com/support/system-requirements/ https://wiki.firestormviewer.org/fs_system_requirements?s[]=system&s[]=specifications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profaitchikenz Haiku Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I run Windows 7 and log in with Firestorm, Catznip, SL viewer, Singularity, Black Dragon, and CoolVlViewer. What makes you think you can't login with Windows 7? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Profaitchikenz Haiku said: I run Windows 7 and log in with Firestorm, Catznip, SL viewer, Singularity, Black Dragon, and CoolVlViewer. What makes you think you can't login with Windows 7? So then why don't you help the OP figure out what to do since LL has raised the min specs to Win8 and FS upped it to 8.1? They seem to be under the impression they can't simply download a viewer, install it and log in on Win7. I wonder if they have even tried. I never said it couldn't be done. You should have seen what hubby was running SL on years ago that should never been able to run it. Edited April 25, 2021 by Silent Mistwalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 3 hours ago, dbldbl said: thus I can't log anymore with the SL viewer or Firestorm. 1 hour ago, Profaitchikenz Haiku said: I run Windows 7 and log in with Firestorm, Catznip, SL viewer, Singularity, Black Dragon, and CoolVlViewer. What makes you think you can't login with Windows 7? They did say anymore so I'd assume they had been able to log in at some point with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyssa Greymoon Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 LL removed Windows 7 from the system requirements when Microsoft ended support. As long as the viewers run, they should be able to login. Maybe someone can offer more help if you add some detail as to what's going on. You should really upgrade to Windows 10 though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annalise Evergarden Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Maybe running it in compatibility mode might work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profaitchikenz Haiku Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Silent Mistwalker said: So then why don't you help the OP figure out what to do since LL has raised the min specs I would need to know what error message they are seeing when they try to login with their two stated viewers, without that information I'd just be taking blind stabs in the dark. As you say, they might not even have tried, in which case all I can do is hope I have inspired them to try a walk on the wild side. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profaitchikenz Haiku Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Rowan Amore said: They did say anymore so I'd assume they had been able to log in at some point with it. That was exactly how I read it too, I was intrigued to know if there was an error raised either on the installation or the running attempts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 6 hours ago, dbldbl said: Hello, I run a Windows7 computer thus I can't log anymore with the SL viewer or Firestorm. We need more information about what's happening, anything, nothing .. Right now I'm guessing maybe you have a 32bit OS and are trying to run a 64bit viewer? Maybe ? Catznip does work on Windows 7, if you don't know which you need - try the 64bit version, if that doesn't work, try the 32bit version, if that doesn't work .. come back and tell us what is anything is happening, there are many things that could prevent a viewer from working. https://get.catznip.com/downloads 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbldbl Posted April 25, 2021 Author Share Posted April 25, 2021 Thanks everyone for answering. I just logged with Black Dragon. I uninstalled Firestorm when they announced that the last release for W7 wasn't supported anymore. That was three weeks ago: "As per our 3-version rule, we will be blocking version 6.3.2.58052 in 3 weeks’ time on April 5th." thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmoe Whitfield Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 44 minutes ago, dbldbl said: Thanks everyone for answering. I just logged with Black Dragon. I uninstalled Firestorm when they announced that the last release for W7 wasn't supported anymore. That was three weeks ago: " As per our 3-version rule, we will be blocking version 6.3.2.58052 in 3 weeks’ time on April 5th." thanks again so you of been able to download the latest and it should of still installed and ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) And thank you all for participating but I guess our help wasn't needed after all Edited April 26, 2021 by Rowan Amore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmoe Whitfield Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Rowan Amore said: And thank you all for participating but I guess our help want needed after all Gonna reckon they went and used nir's viewer as their full time viewer, I hope they can adjust it so it works better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 If they were using FS 6.3.2 it doesn't make sense that they can't use 6.4.13 since FS stopped supporting Win7 years ago. Who knows. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profaitchikenz Haiku Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 I think the misleading part is when it is announced that Windows 7 is no longer being supported. This doesn't mean that the software will no longer work on Windows 7, it means that the dependencies such as dotNet might not be updated in the future on that platform but the software will be revised to work with the next release. Since Windows 7 won't be getting a further dotNet release the software probably will fail to install or run. Possibly trying mono might extend the time Windows 7 continues to be usable, but long-term the best alternative is Linux, and possibly ReactOS if they get a move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunomar Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 I'm guessing its an old laptop and SL exceeds is ability , my old win7 still lets me login but everything is grey and id need a weeks notice if i had to move 3 steps forward , then i'd the end up on the far opposite side of the sim . Its probably not your operating system but rather it doesnt have a large enough memory or RAM or whatever the geeks call it . If any of this rings true a factory reset might let you login again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, cunomar said: I'm guessing its an old laptop and SL exceeds is ability , my old win7 still lets me login but everything is grey and id need a weeks notice if i had to move 3 steps forward , then i'd the end up on the far opposite side of the sim . Its probably not your operating system but rather it doesnt have a large enough memory or RAM or whatever the geeks call it . If any of this rings true a factory reset might let you login again ? the answer is already given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbldbl Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 hello, I just downloaded, installed and ran the latest release of Firestorm on my W7. It works perfectly, even if incredibly slow. I post this in case someone is hesitating about downloading a release for W8-W10 on a W7 system. Enjoy your SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, dbldbl said: hello, I just downloaded, installed and ran the latest release of Firestorm on my W7. It works perfectly, even if incredibly slow. I post this in case someone is hesitating about downloading a release for W8-W10 on a W7 system. Enjoy your SL. The newest version of Firestorm will be their EEP release which will probably be slower on your machine. You can still download older versions for now without EEP. Like the one you removed. fs_older_downloads [Phoenix Firestorm Project - Wiki] (firestormviewer.org) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profaitchikenz Haiku Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, dbldbl said: I just downloaded, installed and ran the latest release of Firestorm on my W7. It works perfectly, even if incredibly slow. In that case I'd suggest Catznip 32-bit, it's about as quick as you're going to get unless you can manage CoolVlViewer with the new threads. Edited April 26, 2021 by Profaitchikenz Haiku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Profaitchikenz Haiku said: In that case I'd suggest Catznip 32-bit, it's about as quick as you're going to get ......... I would advise Catznip 64 bit - It has a lower crash rate and is actively developed (this goes for any viewer really, if the 64bit version works, use that). The 32bit viewer is provided for people who literally can't run the 64 bit version at all (and they should really be putting some thought into a new PC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profaitchikenz Haiku Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said: The 32bit viewer is provided for people who literally can't run the 64 bit version at all (and they should really be putting some thought into a new PC). That's me to a T, and I'll see if they offer discounts on new PCs for pensioners Actually, my advice to use the 32-bit rather than the 64-bit comes from watching the Windows task monitor whilst running the viewer, the 32-bit versions are less greedy with RAM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfie Reanimator Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Profaitchikenz Haiku said: Actually, my advice to use the 32-bit rather than the 64-bit comes from watching the Windows task monitor whilst running the viewer, the 32-bit versions are less greedy with RAM. This is because 32-bit programs literally cannot use more than 2-4GB of memory due to the limitations of 32-bit integers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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