Inworld Employment for designer creation

[valattefine]

I would like to hire a designer to create my Inworld fashion line. 

I've been wanting to hire someone whom can make my fashion wear for Avatars. At Least for myself. 

[Quistess Alpha]

And why should someone design and make things for you instead of making them and selling them for themself? What are you bringing to the table exactly?

You want someone to Design, Mesh and Rig, all at the same time?

[valattefine]

willing to pay $L dollars  

 

[Rowan Amore]

Might want to pay $ instead of Ls.   As @Quistessasaid, what exactly will you bring to the process?

[valattefine]

On 4/13/2021 at 3:16 PM, Rowan Amore said:

Might want to pay $ instead of Ls.   As @Quistessasaid, what exactly will you bring to the process?

with this Second Life app "SL payment $L" can be from anywhere. Dollars would not be possible. Payment must be $L. 

No. This is a Second Life transaction 

 

[Rowan Amore]

3 hours ago, valattefine said:

with this Second Life app "SL payment $L" can be from anywhere. Dollars would not be possible. Payment must be $L. 

No. This is a Second Life transaction 

 

Here's an ad right here in the employment section with prices per piece.

 

[Quistess Alpha]

Too many people here don't seem to comprehend the difference between what I'll call "play-work" and what I'll call "real-work".

play-work : fun, low-pay, low barrier to entry.

I would say things like DJ/Hosting, and adult jobs are almost always of this type. There are a large number of people who are able and willing to do the job, or broadly speaking, people would do the activity anyway, but you are incentivizing them to do the activity at /your/ location, which will bring you more traffic and hopefully revenue.

Real-work : not-as-fun, higher pay, higher barrier to entry

Animation and mesh-creation among other things generally fit here. Doing not-entirely-fun things for money is called a job, and people who do jobs expect to be paid a living wage, and when there is actual money involved, there is a higher level of scrutiny between employer and employee (and legal things, but brush those under the rug) I.E. not only does the employer need to know the employee is competent, but the employee needs some reassurance that the employer actually has the ability to pay, and (for a ongoing-arangement rather than a one off sale) that the employer will actually be able to keep the business afloat.

No reasonable person would agree to do real-work for play-work pay, and if you're going to pay someone real-world rates, over an extended period of time, you'll definitely want to use some real world payment method, Paypal, venmo, wire-transfer or whatever is popular these days.

[Wulfie Reanimator]

4 minutes ago, Quistessa said:

play-work : fun, low-pay, low barrier to entry.

I would say things like DJ/Hosting, and adult jobs are almost always of this type.

Real-work : not-as-fun, higher pay, higher barrier to entry

Animation and mesh-creation among other things generally fit here.

I don't think you can generalize what types of work are "more fun." More accessible, maybe, but I wouldn't put DJ/Hosting and roleplay on the same level on that.

One thing I don't understand though. Why would you say that getting paid in L$ is "play work?" Getting paid in L$ is just as real as USD and has its own benefits, depending on how you want to use that money. The only important factor is how much OP is actually willing to pay. If the screenshots above are any indication, 24K L$ or $100 for (I assume/hope) a couple things can be decent. But if they think that amount will cover for a whole "fashion line," they're probably going to be very disappointed.

[Quistess Alpha]

6 minutes ago, Wulfie Reanimator said:

One thing I don't understand though. Why would you say that getting paid in L$ is "play work?"

I didn't intend to imply that getting paid in linden was any less 'real' than getting paid in USD, the difference is in amount. getting paid 2000 linden for a 2-4 hour hosting gig sounds nice, but when you do the math that adds up to about 8USD, nowhere close to a living wage. As is subtly implied by Rowan's first comment:

On 4/13/2021 at 4:16 PM, Rowan Amore said:

Might want to pay $ instead of Ls.

Lindens are great for low-value transactions, but if you if you are paying someone an amount at which you might reasonably expect them to convert l to USD you'd be better off doing the transaction in USD to begin with.

As a practical point, yes, $100 might buy the OP one or two clothing items to sell in their store, not a whole fashion line. Unless they have amazing marketing skills, or a large reservoir of cash, I foresee 'slipinfalls' slipping and falling.

[Rowan Amore]

3 minutes ago, Quistessa said:

I didn't intend to imply that getting paid in linden was any less 'real' than getting paid in USD, the difference is in amount. getting paid 2000 linden for a 2-4 hour hosting gig sounds nice, but when you do the math that adds up to about 8USD, nowhere close to a living wage. As is subtly implied by Rowan's first comment:

Lindens are great for low-value transactions, but if you if you are paying someone an amount at which you might reasonably expect them to convert l to USD you'd be better off doing the transaction in USD to begin with.

As a practical point, yes, $100 might buy the OP one or two clothing items to sell in their store, not a whole fashion line. Unless they have amazing marketing skills, or a large reservoir of cash, I foresee 'slipinfalls' slipping and falling.

Also, many people may not want to provide the required ID to cash out Ls so getting paid in RL money would be preferable.

[valattefine]

It would be impossible to match the Real World person or ID with Avatar, too. Keep n it SL 

[Rowan Amore]

4 minutes ago, valattefine said:

It would be impossible to match the Real World person or ID with Avatar, too. Keep n it SL 

Cash out Lindens through LL is an easy process but requires additional ID to LL.  People do it all the time.  However, a lot of people do not want to provide this info to LL or do not have the required ID.  Therefore, YOU paying the person in RL money might be preferable to some creators.  Perhaps you should learn how things work before starting a business.

 

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1 hour ago, Quistessa said:

No reasonable person would agree to do real-work for play-work pay, and if you're going to pay someone real-world rates, over an extended period of time, you'll definitely want to use some real world payment method, Paypal, venmo, wire-transfer or whatever is popular these days.

Plenty of ways for you to pay someone RL money as noted by @Quistessa

[valattefine]

visit this website to see the fashion line or wear I have been trying to have for my Second Life market place. Sold by Caffinna

I would like one done at least for my self. Than more can be done at a latter time. 

Payments must be done on a Second Life server-  Avatar to Avatar 

[valattefine]

visit this website to see the fashion line or wear I have been trying to have for my Second Life market place. Sold by Caffinna

I would like one done at least for my self. Than more can be done at a latter time. 

Payments must be done on a Second Life server-  "Avatar to Avatar; A2A" payment 

[Quistess Alpha]

If you just want your logo on some mesh, you could probably buy some full-perm mesh and learn to do that yourself. . .

[Rowan Amore]

I'm more confused than ever.  You want a safety vest made?

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Meli-Full-Perm-Mens-Safety-Vest-For-OCACIN-MADO-ONUPUP-EDUS-IDEAL-BODY/14010951

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/stores/67299