Market crash (update: LL unchrashed it)

[Arduenn Schwartzman]

Just a heads up, folks, in case you're all wondering.

1. In-world, in some group, someone just reported that a well-knows seller of mesh heads had the brilliant idea to sell one of their mesh heads for 1 L$ on MP today.

2. In other news, I tried to get into MP and I got a warning message stating that MP was down due to heavy user load. Half an hour later, I got  504 Gateway Time-out.

"I'm not saying that the one caused the other..."

"But, yeah, the one definitely caused the other."

So, in case you're wondering why the h*ll you can't get into MP right now: because it's d*mn easy to crash the Market(place) with stunts like these.

[Update]

Joy! MP is back!

Edited March 25, 2021 by Arduenn Schwartzman
Update: Three cheers for LL. MP is back online.

[Kahlan Navarathna]

Head wars ddos.

 

This was a bad move on the "not to be named store" that caused this. Never liked them for many reasons but now.......  I'm sure other merchants are not happy either. Not to mention how LL will feel when they wake up to find they made no money all night due to this L$1 ddos.

[Arduenn Schwartzman]

I feel another amendment in the Community Guidelines coming up.

[Silence Evermore]

Brilliant marketing move...Kill the marketplace for everyone. Even if you cant get it to load you are not going to get your purchases.

[RunawayBunny]

Its not creators fault if marketplace collapsing with current user number, perhaps it needs rework to avoid random load spikes (unintentional ddos).. or perhaps separate and networked  multiple market servers

[Kahlan Navarathna]

It's totally the creators fault. If you've been a merchant for as long as they have, you know what you are doing. You know what will happen. Other similar creators do in store sales like that. We've all seen them. I get wanting to win back some marketshare that you've lost from being over priced for so long but this is the wrong way to go about it.

[AyelaNewLife]

Just getting in early with a 

ITT: People who think it's even remotely plausible to funnel enough people to bring the MP to a halt through inworld regions instead

[Alwin Alcott]

2 minutes ago, Kahlan Navarathna said:

It's totally the creators fault.

yes and no .. they should have had contact with the mp team upfront ... but from their point of view ; no region crashes, ánd they pay for the MP feature ...

[Vicious Hollow]

Totally can't help myself...just got this image in mind reading this, along with "so many head jokes, so little time..." 😬

 

[HanaMaki32]

Just now, AyelaNewLife said:

Just getting in early with a 

ITT: People who think it's even remotely plausible to funnel enough people to bring the MP to a halt through inworld regions instead

Gonna just copy paste your own post huh?
 

But yeah its just nuts how this killed off the MP so quickly. It was funny for a couple minutes but now I'm frustrated lmao

[Arduenn Schwartzman]

I'd say 33% the creators' fault. I'm pretty sure the merchant's seen the errors of their ways now. As the famous senator Susan Collins of Maine would say: "I'm sure they have learnt their lesson."

Edited March 25, 2021 by Arduenn Schwartzman

[AyelaNewLife]

Just now, HanaMaki32 said:

Gonna just copy paste your own post huh?
 

But yeah its just nuts how this killed off the MP so quickly. It was funny for a couple minutes but now I'm frustrated lmao

Only had enough creativity for one quip today, sorry.

But in all seriousness - the only practical alternative was to not run the giveaway. 

[Kahlan Navarathna]

Or do the giveaway inworld like the other head creators do. If you are gonna crash something, better to crash your own store instead of everyone else's store on the mp. I get you can still shop inworld, but lots of store rely on both sales, mp and inworld. I think it was inconsiderate. Just my opinion though.

[AWalphaomega]

The whole point of "uplifting" (lol) to AWS is that it is supposed to scale up on demand.  This is not 33% or any percent the merchant's fault.  Any time someone posts a major price reduction on Amazon.com or ebay it doesn't crash those sites.  This is 100% LL in my opinion.  They take their 10% from us, so they need to take responsibility for maintaining the system.

Edited March 25, 2021 by AWalphaomega

[Kahlan Navarathna]

 I would suggest, and I could be wrong, but LL just ain't no Amazon. And how  many issues have we all had with uplift?  Tons. It's been one issue after the other. Which is fine. To some degree you have to expect that with anything new when it comes to technology. But to compare LL to Amazon is not realistic. And who knows, maybe LL did scale up and even that wasn't enough to handle this irresponsible act of marketing. Guess we'll never know.

[RunawayBunny]

Enforcing rules to content creator about events not a reliable way, and really it is not rocket science central database with multiple servers (number of server scales by demand) traffic controlled by load balance server:

[Cheeky Shenanigans]

I don't even want the stupid head. I just want to login and do some other shopping. And they claim their innocence in "Not knowing that this would happen." to which I call BS. I'm sorry, but anyone who's dealt with server/site overloads before would know that this crap would go down. They can play dumb all they like, but I don't think they're being truthful about not knowing this would happen. Accept responsibility. They're all calling anyone who's angry (Like myself) about not being able to even login to MP haters, whiners, and complainers. How professional of them. 

Edited March 25, 2021 by Sapphire Starlight

[Arduenn Schwartzman]

I can tell from a friend's MP sales history that this incident started at exactly 11:43 PM SLT. From that moment on, up to now, almost 4 hours later, all my friend's MP sales grinded to a complete halt.

Edited March 25, 2021 by Arduenn Schwartzman

[RunawayBunny]

This topic feels like personal anger against creator and it has nothing to do with "Market crash" it seems.

[Nova Convair]

The message is:

This website is under heavy load

We're sorry, too many people are accessing this website at the same time. We're working on this problem. Please try again later.

 

I wonder how many potential customers are in SL. And since they are scattered over the world I don't expect that they try all at the same time. Not much capacity for a service running on AWS cloud. They are not prepared and have a heavy bottleneck somewhere. This here is a storm inside a glass of water compared to other internet services.

Interesting that MP is running that low.

[wesleytron]

As a topic aside: on a personal note I'd rather pay L$5000 for a product fewer people might have than L$1 for something everybody is going to have. I want to try and look less like everybody else, not like a clone of everybody else.

[Samara Sharkfin]

2 minutes ago, Sid Nagy said:

If she makes any further move to try to disturb things, LL should ban her and close her MP shop

I fully agree with you.  It was absolutely foreseeable that this will go wrong.
I would like to know if LL was maybe aware of this. If they were maybe informed ahead?

[Alwin Alcott]

finally a stresstest for MP on AWS ... pass or fail is quite clear.

[Samara Sharkfin]

1 minute ago, Alwin Alcott said:

perhaps my memory works different .. the whining thread was longer than this one here

Yes! the other regions were added after the main store was stuck. 🙂

[Arwen Serpente]

Appears LL is working on it: https://status.secondlifegrid.net/incidents/447pj8kp45br