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Unfortunately, a thread was locked before I could reply to someone who quoted me and replied to me. We all use a viewer for SL, of course, but someone said it's a browser, not a viewer. As evidence for perhaps some confusion, she said that LL themselves sometimes refer to it as a browser when talking about "internal or external browser", and made an apparently clever comment to say that there isn't an internal browser. Only apparently clever though :) I think I've got all that pretty much right.

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"In fact LL itself slips up and calls it that *within the viewer* when it asks about going to an internal or external browser. Unless, of course we're to accept the proposition that inside the viewer, there's an internal browser."

I didn't get the opportunity to reply to it before the thread was locked, so I am here to say that there most definitely IS a browser within the viewer. It is not merely a proposition. We are offered a choice of internal or external browsers when we click a URL link inworld to view a webpage. If we choose internal, the viewer opens up its own internal web browser inside the viewer.

 

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Does this make it clear?  😁

Unfortunately, a thread was locked before I could reply to someone who quoted me and replied to me. We all use a viewer for SL, of course, but someone said it's a browser, not a viewer. As evidence fo

You answered your own quandary: They're called .... Clients.

17 minutes ago, Phil Deakins said:

I didn't get the opportunity to reply to it before the thread was locked, so I am here to say that there most definitely IS a browser within the viewer. It is not merely a proposition. We are offered a choice of internal or external browsers when we click a URL link inworld to view a webpage. If we choose internal, the viewer opens up its own internal web browser inside the viewer.

100% correct.  The client that we use to access SL is a 'viewer', not a 'browser' --- though I'm not sure what the mobile clients call themselves if they aren't providing the graphics.  

And then, inside the viewer, we can access web stuff via the internal browser or an external one.

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1 minute ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

100% correct.  The client that we use to access SL is a 'viewer', not a 'browser' --- though I'm not sure what the mobile clients call themselves if they aren't providing the graphics.  

And then, inside the viewer, we can access web stuff via the internal browser or an external one.

You answered your own quandary: They're called .... Clients.

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35 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

though I'm not sure what the mobile clients call themselves if they aren't providing the graphics.  

   ... ... Blinders?

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That thread got locked?  oh for the love of...

Viewer.  To view SL.  The browser inside the viewer, to browse the internet/MP.  

/me sits back and waits on the wall of text as to why we are all wrong

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21 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

You can - sort of:  https://speedlight.io/

 

But but..it's on the TPV list so technically...is it a viewer or a browser?   

SpeedLight is a professional Second Life viewer:

100% browser-based, no downloads required

100% mobile and tablet ready

Allows switching between devices without logging out

Allows keeping avatar online 24/7

IM history is always available (even offline)

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53 minutes ago, Patch Linden said:

Does this make it clear?  😁

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it only says viewer 13 times. Might want to say it more times I think just to be more clear. Can get in at least another 20 viewer mentions. For at least 33 times. Like:


Second Life Viewer
Download the SL Viewer if you want to run the viewer on Windows
Viewer Version Number: 6.4.13.555567
Need Viewer Support? Viewer System Requirements Viewer Release Notes
Not running the viewer on Windows? Download the Mac viewer or Linux viewer
Want to run the viewer on a 32 bit system? Download the Windows 32 bit viewer.

About Second Life Viewer
To explore, communicate, and connect in Second Life, you'll need to download our 3D browsing viewer software, or what we call the SL Viewer. The viewer is not only fast and easy to download and install, but the viewer is free, and the viewer contains no spyware.

Other Viewers
Advanced Second Life residents may want to experiment with different viewers, including our latest viewer candidate release of the SL Viewer.

Help make the SL Viewer even better than previous viewers! If you're an experienced viewer-using Resident, then download one of the latest viewer release candidates or project SL Viewers and let us know what you think of the viewer.

Alternate viewers can be found on our Viewer Release Notes page, including Project Viewers, Third-Party Viewers and the Second Life Development Viewer.

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You used to also be able to access SL, using Firestorm or the SL Viewer, all from within a browser -- via Bright Canopy, but they closed up a few years ago.  I imagine they found it hard to be profitable.

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4 hours ago, Rowan Amore said:

But but..it's on the TPV list so technically...is it a viewer or a browser?   

It's a viewer which runs in your web browser.
Unless you use it as an app (android/iOS) on your mobile device, in which case it becomes a viewer for mobile devices.

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Really? *sighs*  Shouldn't this have been obvious?

 

9 hours ago, Profaitchikenz Haiku said:

I go by TPV - Third Party Viewer.

I've always thought that TPV sounds like a type of infection personally.

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In the locked thread I'd written that a browser performs a completely different function to the viewer, and since I'm sitting here quite bored, I thought I'd say what I meant by it.

But first, my thanks to @Patch Linden for the 'official' clarification :)

Viewer: a mobile window, through which the 3D world, and what happens in it, can be seen/viewed - 'viewer' being a very applicable word for it.

Browser: a static board that displays pages of data. Some of the data can show movement but the board itself is static. You don't see anything through it in the way that you see through the viewer window. You only see things that are on it.

 

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