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2 hours ago, Rabid Cheetah said:

 

Exactly.  There's a big difference between occasionally saying "I don't like socialism" and posting a rambling off-topic personal Capitalist Manefesto over and over and over in EVERY.  DAMNED.  THREAD.

If you publish a tout of a community in "Mainland Communities" that's actually on ISLANDS; if you call this community by its literal name and don't specify that it is a socialist experiment; if you then claim it has a "quiet" history when it most certainly does not, and claim it's been "voting democratically every six months" without any context (why so often?), then you deserve a pushback on this thread, here, as much as you personally may not want to hear it and feel the name to ridicule and exaggerate my perfectly legitimate critique of socialism.

I don't post "capitalist manifestos" in "every damn thread" as anyone can see. I do oppose socialism in his misleading SL forms in particular, as a member of the Democratic Party. If people didn't serve up these views constantly, I wouldn't have to comment, and I see no reasons to leave the forums to all of you; SL is for everybody.

Do you have a Mainland community? You could talk about that.

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On 7/2/2021 at 10:01 AM, BJoyful said:

Are you actually Patch's dad, here in disguise😉?  

No, I could be his teen mom maybe? I'd have to check the dates. I do believe I was here first, but I've never found that to be a contest before; lots of people came before me who are the real oldbies; I'm a midbie.

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So as I've noted, I'm watching the "Tale of Three Sims" in Nautilus one pink mountain, one green, one sandy.

One is a very expensive Blake Sea sim for sale for US $8000. Whew!

Another is my hard-scrabble rentals on Crespo.

And now there is a very beautifully landscaped sim called Kuhnke with gorgeous homes. I see sims done like this, and you say, I should retire, but I still feel there is a niche for everybody, expenso Blake Sea, beautiful homes for less, and cheapie skyboxes etc.  Go and see, I have never seen waterfalls done in this creative way, as kind of grottos around houses.

Which one of us will be forced to abandon first? I've seen a lot of change around me, people come and go with a constant theme of abandonment.

I realize that just another rentals sim may not qualify as "Mainland Communities". But I think if a person or group of persons puts in the time and trouble and risk to make a sim like Kuhnke, and they get people to join them, that is indeed a community, even if they don't have a Constitution, but lease cards. 

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7 hours ago, Prokofy Neva said:

If you publish a tout of a community in "Mainland Communities" that's actually on ISLANDS; if you call this community by its literal name and don't specify that it is a socialist experiment; if you then claim it has a "quiet" history when it most certainly does not, and claim it's been "voting democratically every six months" without any context (why so often?), then you deserve a pushback on this thread, here, as much as you personally may not want to hear it and feel the name to ridicule and exaggerate my perfectly legitimate critique of socialism.

I don't post "capitalist manifestos" in "every damn thread" as anyone can see. I do oppose socialism in his misleading SL forms in particular, as a member of the Democratic Party. If people didn't serve up these views constantly, I wouldn't have to comment, and I see no reasons to leave the forums to all of you; SL is for everybody.

Do you have a Mainland community? You could talk about that.

 

You see evil evil evil socialism everywhere.  If someone says "I like ice cream cones", you're likely to inform them that ice cream cones used to come in rectangular pastries, not cones, because those darn socialists had to take their portion.  And not just a single sentence -- a f-ing thesis paper.

"I like kitty cats."

"Oh, well, did you know that from 1857 to 1913 the Communist Party of Timbuktu used a cat as their symbol?"

And so on and so forth.  Who died and made you Cliff Clavin?

Additionally, you're one of the few folks here who personalizes things, hurling epithets at people, including myself.  This has put you at the number two spot on my, well, "number two" list of frequent forum posters.

That's all I'm gonna say, as it's 6:00 p.m. slt, and time for the Rabid Ranting Socialist Rachel Maddow Show on Microsoft's Socialist Nationalist Bolshevik Collective [MSNBC].

 

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8 hours ago, BJoyful said:

Hugs and sweet dreams Rabid Cheetah… you had me belly laughing when I read  Cliff Claven… ah Cliffy’s white socks 🤓  you make me LOLLL every day ❤️ And a good laugh is good for toning abs!

 

And the ultimate in irony, ranting about off-topic crapola, and then telling someone "Do you have a Mainland community? You could talk about that."

 

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[ROTFL-MAO]

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41 minutes ago, BJoyful said:

Hugs and sweet dreams Rabid Cheetah… you had me belly laughing when I read  Cliff Claven… ah Cliffy’s white socks 🤓  you make me LOLLL every day ❤️ And a good laugh is good for toning abs!

"Eh, little known fact, Normie:  Not only are there no Cliff Claven avis on The Marketplace, but there are only six mailmen under Apparel."

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/products/search?search[category_id]=3&search[keywords]=mailman&search[maturity]=General&search[page]=1&search[per_page]=12&search[sort]=created_at_desc

"Although, at one point Rabid Cheetah had a parcel that had a big sudden drop off due to the surrounding terrain's level, so she called it 'Clavin's Cliff'."

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On 8/11/2021 at 1:39 PM, BJoyful said:

@ChinReyPlease, pretty please with chocolatier sprinkles and espresso beans 🥰

Dropping in for just a minute. It's RL that's keeping me away from SL at the moment, not opensim. I'm in the process of moving and it's amazing how much time and work that takes!

I'll probably reopen my MP stores soon. Now that the gacha craze has ground to a halt, maybe there's a better chance for us content creators who work quitely building performant "bread and butter" content?

But I'll never ever have any land in SL again, except possibly a small patch I can log on to. The two big builds I'm working on now are a miniature representation of western Europe, with a landscape gradually changing from Northern Norwegian to mediterrean and a kind of Pacific/Carribean hybrid tropical island archipelago/seascape.

The tropical build will require more than a hundred SL size regions, the European more than 15,000 and the Grand Scheme also includes among other things similar, probably even bigger representations of the other RL continents. Obviously, SL is not an option for something of that size and even opensim as it is today will be way too expensive. If it ever goes online at all, it will be on a grid running a modified opensim with much better resource management.

 

On 8/11/2021 at 1:44 PM, Prokofy Neva said:

I'm glad ChinRey has found a happier place, even with its drawbacks, and it is terrible to see what has happened to her previously nicely-maintained land in SL.

Oh. I haven't been there since the land was sold. Is it bad?

 

On 8/11/2021 at 1:44 PM, Prokofy Neva said:

@ChinRey did you try the Canadian grid where it seems you can string together huge sims as far as the eye can see for a song.

There are many far better options than the Great Canadian Grid for that on the hypergrid but as I already said, even that would be way too expensive for my pet project. I'm looking at a few options but we'll see what happens. For now I'm afraid my complete landscapes are for my own eyes only.

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On 8/17/2021 at 3:02 PM, ChinRey said:

Oh. I haven't been there since the land was sold. Is it bad?

 

There are many far better options than the Great Canadian Grid for that on the hypergrid but as I already said, even that would be way too expensive for my pet project. I'm looking at a few options but we'll see what happens. For now I'm afraid my complete landscapes are for my own eyes only.

Yeah, it's bad. You know how the funeral director advises you to have a closed casket, and "just remember him the way he was". Like that. Don't look. One foot in front of the other, out of here?

The Great Canadian Grid has sims for only $15/wk but of course, there are few people there. Yes, I realize the 'Hypergrid" has even cheaper options but I think people are important to a project, no? I mean, you know, random people that go by, find you in search, etc.

@Rabid Cheetah so do you have a residential community on the Mainland?

 

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On 2/10/2021 at 8:06 AM, Antonioo Giano said:

It is absolutely the same, they are like in mainland on "protected land" check the worild map while you are there and you see that you are anyway connected with the "classic" mainland. Not in a private sim. For me is the best solution for community living not in private sims. I don't like the community in mainland because you never know someone around what can do over there if they buy a plot close to the community.

I have this view as well. Bellisseria is Mainland- an example set forth by Linden Labs of what Mainland could be.

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On 7/3/2021 at 12:47 AM, Vixtee said:

Hi @Trinity Heartsong and allll! My residential community - Winter Cove, is located in the Snowlands and is currently in the works! I hope that is the one @Yukiko Yeshto is referring to! It is set to open in August. It was opened, but I felt it needed to be redone so it is! It has a plaza that will be across the street with stores. The residential side has a park and oh my gosh so much lol. I'll repost again the info along with the landmark once done. Thank you!

Oh i'd love to see this! Do you have a Facebook page?

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On 3/16/2021 at 2:11 PM, Yuumo Ichibara said:

This community has been mentioned in an earlier post, but I went on a long drive up north (I come from the deep south close to the port of Promethium) to the regions of Keswick, Buttermere, Langdale, Windermere and Coniston, and took some photos. Langdale Seaside, or the Greater Coniston is a Northern English countryside town that has houses in all sizes from L$10 cottages all the way up to antique mansions and castles. Quiet laidback atmosphere with plenty of public areas; four ports and an extensive road connected to the Sansara Waterways and Linden Roads. Many of the houses are still occupied, and I remember the locals there being very friendly when I visited last year. I did not meet anyone during this trip but maybe on other days they gather and hold events.

http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Langdale/91/174/27

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These pics are beautiful and will memorialize Great Coniston

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On 8/18/2021 at 6:14 PM, Prokofy Neva said:

Yeah, it's bad. You know how the funeral director advises you to have a closed casket, and "just remember him the way he was". Like that. Don't look. One foot in front of the other, out of here?

The Great Canadian Grid has sims for only $15/wk but of course, there are few people there. Yes, I realize the 'Hypergrid" has even cheaper options but I think people are important to a project, no? I mean, you know, random people that go by, find you in search, etc.

@Rabid Cheetah so do you have a residential community on the Mainland?

 

Actually the GCG prices are monthly not weekly and I would not recommend anyone buying land in that grid. The owner already shut down his grid a number of times due to technical issues.  

It's very easy for someone to create their own grid that can be connected to the hypergrid or not using DreamGrid.  

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5 minutes ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

Actually the GCG prices are monthly not weekly and I would not recommend anyone buying land in that grid. The owner already shut down his grid a number of times due to technical issues.  

It's very easy for someone to create their own grid that can be connected to the hypergrid or not using DreamGrid.  

In any case...we don't have to worry because Since the early days of COVID, GCG is closed down. 

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On SL- This used to be Storybook Estates but now is Hidden Hills- I think they shrunk also because on each side, the names are different. I haven't had a chance to explore, but it is well done: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Kraken/169/150/63 -- it's alll the way far out on the other side of hte SL world but there's still some sailable water here. 

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On 8/24/2021 at 2:20 PM, Therese Tammas said:

I have this view as well. Bellisseria is Mainland- an example set forth by Linden Labs of what Mainland could be.

I'd really have to beg to differ. I think it's exactly the other way around. For years on end, various groups of us formed communities and STRUGGLED to get the Lindens have some law and order on their grid. Remember, the world was built as an afterthought to test Philips original VR googles rig -- kind of like Elon Musk's world now is an afterthought to test the self-drive cars and the AI.

There were quite a few of us who made communities FIRST and tried to get the Lindens first to fix their ostensibly Linden-zoned sims, then battled the abuses on all those early forms of Linden zoning, long before there were any Linden Homes or Bellisseria, which came in 2019. Scroll above and look at the photos of Coniston. Who had nice houses on nice commons on the waterfront, years and years before Belli? Chin Rey. So I think that has to be remembered.

So the history went like this:

o various early communities like Lusk or those around Nephthalaine Protagonist who built the Cathedral in Mocha or other colour sims groups made builds

o the group tools were utterly inadequate for running projects that weren't hippie communes -- in the original iteration, the roles were not differentiated enough, so that all income went equally to all members; all member could trigger an "officer recall' and vote officers out of the group who were originally elected with voting tools -- these have since been removed, but not before I triggered one of the last group votes in SL in the Concierge Group of 8,000 people regarding whether people approved or disapproved of various LL policies at the time.

Such group voting tools might seem like democratic socialist heaven, but it wasn't, as griefers used it to get people off their land they had purchased and paid tier on -- while you were subject to officer recall, all your powers were frozen, and others could seize the land. I explained this in my famous "pizza guy blog" which helped persuade Cory Ondrejka, then CTO and Philip finally to change the group tools -- "officer recall" is long gone.

There were long torturous meetings with various political factions -- I remember Lusk was upset that owners weren't perfectly equal, i.e. there would always have to be first one owner, who then made others owners in a cascade. Ultimately the groups were reformed and re-coded but not without bugs, i.e. the fact that any object on "share" can be returned even by people without the power to return group-set object - which Lindens viewed as a feature.

o In Brown and Boardman, Ingrid and Barnesworth Anubis made nice craftsman style homes and sold them or rent them and persuaded Jack Linden to spruce up those Linden-run sims which were the first version of a "Linden home" -- no terraforming was allowed and no skyboxes, it's in G. Jack Linden re-built the marketplace and took out some of the dead pine trees but left various things like the early Ryan Linden home which is more like a merchant shelf than a home.

o Around this time I bought Ravenglass on the auction, divided up parcels to sell, spaced around a 10,000 m common. I commissioned houses to be built by Barnesworth, Lordfly and others. People bought the land, ditched the houses, and put up security orbs and laggy junk. Meanwhile, a neighbour put a giant King Kong on the waterfront in the next sim and Starax's statue of an eagle grabbing a fisherman right at the Ravenglass waterfront -- because the Lindens didn't really try to cut up these sims to leave coherent waterways and avoid griefing vectors. This triggered the famous "I don't get it and they sure don't" thread by a neighbour of Ravenglass who felt everyone should be free to make a creative sandbox out of their sim, and not have to please people who wanted little houses with picket fences. I felt there should be some basic decency and that sandboxes could be in the sky or put in various distinct areas without paralyzing the view everywhere.

Eventually I ended up buying all this land in Ravenglass back, but not before a giant refrigerator and a Soviet Palace of Congresses were also staged on the waterfront by various griefing factions.

o the Lindens installed Schermerhorn and other section which were more elaborate than Brown and Boardman but because building was open, even with more streets and parks to set the tone, it went to the dogs, and even so was very expensive.

o Somewhere in here, Chin Rey builds her Coniston and other communities and there are other people who building communities like Brian Engel who left in a huff all of a sudden some years ago when he said Lindens "took away his special powers," something I never understood, as his rentals seemed like ordinary rentals without any special features, although perhaps he was given the power to kick from the whole sim (as on an island) rather than parcel by parcel (as on Mainland normally).

o then Linden built Nautilus, with plenty of easements, interesting old builds, the Magellan legend, a depot with clothing , textures and props for free from the Moles, etc. This became hugely expensive, and still is, but many (like me) were forced out by the propensity of some people to build giant towers, which obstructed the views of those around. I always thought Nautilus was really the Moles' finest work in many ways, but it was hard to keep nice.

o There was Bay City -- but not before many early builders like Lordfly, Traxx and others built huge towers and a city sim look (Ingrid's store was there) in the city sims. THAT came first. THEN the Mole-built Bay City and that community that sprang up there.

o And I could cite more examples, but all through this period a group of us Mainland landlords were fighting ad farming, extortionists, griefers, the Bush Guy, and other things meant to annoy and make the land unlivable. It took four years to get the ad farm policy from Jack Linden (then in charge of Concierge with a total of VP).

So let's not forget the struggles of everyone who came BEFORE Bellisseria, BEFORE Linden homes even before the first controlled Linden sims after Boardman/Brown -- which a group of people took care of and tried to get the Lindens to make better. I remember they had these laggy, annoying mailboxes at each house with this ugly green SL logo looming out in a zoom texture thing -- FINALLY they ditched that. 

So if anything, you could say that all kinds of people from Ingrid to Osprey Therein to me and Timo Daehlie made communities and tried to get the Lindens to put in group and land policies to make those communities possible AND THEN they began making their Linden homes and taking away business from some of us.

Let's make sure the record is straight here.

WE set forth the good example of what the Mainland could be that the Lindens *finally conceded* and then copied and built their own.

 

 

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On 8/24/2021 at 2:22 PM, Therese Tammas said:

Oh i'd love to see this! Do you have a Facebook page?

Hii I do! I am set to open in October, but will be posting pictures on my FB and IG pages mid September! I do hope you keep in touch!

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Um, no.  I don't know my plans for it yet, but, as all my parcels, it will be open to the public.

I don't know the history, but I know it's a great location:  Land, then a cobblestone Linden road, then deeper-than-usual (35m) water in the center lake of Heterocia.  Plus there was also a small strip of land around the corner included in the sale, so I made a roadside refreshment stand -- which is viewable from one of @Feorie Frimon's latest spots for sale.

I'm considering making part of the water a public rez zone so folks can sale Caldera Lake.  It's not a big lake, but still relaxing, and something special lies below the waters.

That's all for now.  🙂

 

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35 minutes ago, Rabid Cheetah said:

Um, no.  I don't know my plans for it yet, but, as all my parcels, it will be open to the public.

I don't know the history, but I know it's a great location:  Land, then a cobblestone Linden road, then deeper-than-usual (35m) water in the center lake of Heterocia.  Plus there was also a small strip of land around the corner included in the sale, so I made a roadside refreshment stand -- which is viewable from one of @Feorie Frimon's latest spots for sale.

I'm considering making part of the water a public rez zone so folks can sale Caldera Lake.  It's not a big lake, but still relaxing, and something special lies below the waters.

That's all for now.  🙂

 

You are so awesome for this. ❤️

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