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Recently my boyfriend and i have started exploring adult locations in Second Life more. I myself, for reasons, hadn't done that for several years. In the past i remember a quite vibrant scene of place where you could visit parties where people were naked or wore erotic clothing. There were also a lot of places where people engaged in public sex. After quite a lot of teleporting around and having become a member of some erotic groups with matching locations, we see a re-occurring theme. Let me give an example without naming the location:

There is a group in Second Life with a gorgeous and very sensuous party location. Think wood curtains, leather furniture, very tastefully done. They organize parties with an erotic vibe. If i look at the recent parties, most people come quite conservatively dressed in gowns and tuxes. Hardly anything erotic going on. I have noticed this in other places as well. People go dressed to nudist beaches and linger around the landing spots. Or, what has become very common, ate not even dressed for the occasion (a suit at a pool party, woolen sweater and jeans at a beach club) 

And dont get me started on pubic sex. Nice locations where people engage in sex acts seem to gain no traction anymore. People just stand around and try to hook up only to take their potential sexpartner to a more private location. Engaging in sex acts in public almost seems to be frowned upon.

My question would be: is this an effect of the user of SL becoming older or is this an effect of the world becoming more afraid of being frowned upon? Any other insights are welcome of course.

 

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1 hour ago, Jules Catlyn said:

Recently my boyfriend and i have started exploring adult locations in Second Life more. I myself, for reasons, hadn't done that for several years. In the past i remember a quite vibrant scene of place where you could visit parties where people were naked or wore erotic clothing. There were also a lot of places where people engaged in public sex. After quite a lot of teleporting around and having become a member of some erotic groups with matching locations, we see a re-occurring theme. Let me give an example without naming the location:

There is a group in Second Life with a gorgeous and very sensuous party location. Think wood curtains, leather furniture, very tastefully done. They organize parties with an erotic vibe. If i look at the recent parties, most people come quite conservatively dressed in gowns and tuxes. Hardly anything erotic going on. I have noticed this in other places as well. People go dressed to nudist beaches and linger around the landing spots. Or, what has become very common, ate not even dressed for the occasion (a suit at a pool party, woolen sweater and jeans at a beach club) 

And dont get me started on pubic sex. Nice locations where people engage in sex acts seem to gain no traction anymore. People just stand around and try to hook up only to take their potential sexpartner to a more private location. Engaging in sex acts in public almost seems to be frowned upon.

My question would be: is this an effect of the user of SL becoming older or is this an effect of the world becoming more afraid of being frowned upon? Any other insights are welcome of course.

 

Guess you're not at the right places.

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I used to hang out at Commune Utopia which was like this but it is nowhere near as popular as it used to be. More recently I've been occasionally visiting Naked! which is a very similar place (except for the rule to be naked at all times). There's a hangout with a hot tub and various couches & beds where open sex is available, and they're being used as often as not.

I don't think its as common now as before, and I wonder if it's the rise of AFK sex places that's caused this trend. 

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Hi Jules, I have noticed that too. All the adult places I know or have been to have just had people standing around. Nobody talks, nobody seems to engaging in people and they are supposed to be public sex. Now I am not saying I go there to watch people have sex, but I do wonder why people are fully clothed like it is winter and just standing like statues. All the good places are empty. And in pure honesty I noticed a lot of the D/s, daddy/ babygirl, masters/ Slaves and BDSM sites are totally empty. I am curious where people go? And with the huge amount of people who use SL all the adult themes are empty.🤔🤔🤔🤔

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58 minutes ago, poochbear Fluffpaw said:

Hi Jules, I have noticed that too. All the adult places I know or have been to have just had people standing around. Nobody talks, nobody seems to engaging in people and they are supposed to be public sex. Now I am not saying I go there to watch people have sex, but I do wonder why people are fully clothed like it is winter and just standing like statues. All the good places are empty. And in pure honesty I noticed a lot of the D/s, daddy/ babygirl, masters/ Slaves and BDSM sites are totally empty. I am curious where people go? And with the huge amount of people who use SL all the adult themes are empty.🤔🤔🤔🤔

People have always stood around in sex places not having sex.  Unless you mean naked noobs running around asking everyone.  

As to places with people ....Teqi's, Lusthouse, Bad Girls, Balls to the Wall, Planet of QofS, Breathe Spa, Maui.  

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6 hours ago, RowanMinx said:

People have always stood around in sex places not having sex.  Unless you mean naked noobs running around asking everyone.  

As to places with people ....Teqi's, Lusthouse, Bad Girls, Balls to the Wall, Planet of QofS, Breathe Spa, Maui.  

Lol yes you are totally right, but I was trying to be nice and not mention the noobs lol. But thank you for the places where people go 😁

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8 minutes ago, Caroline Takeda said:

I think those places did not become more conservative, but many more sophisticated.

SL usage patterns have drifted over time and outfits have changed to match.

Most "social" locations in SL that aren't overtly about dancing tend to revolve around avatars entering an area and then standing in silence for hours.

A lot of "sophisticated" outfits don't work with an avatar in motion or even seated, but as we're not doing that anymore.

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5 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said:

Most "social" locations in SL that aren't overtly about dancing tend to revolve around avatars entering an area and then standing in silence for hours.

 

Except I don't think they are standing in silence. I think they're all in IMs or private voice chat, or away on Discord.

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9 minutes ago, Lewis Luminos said:

Except I don't think they are standing in silence. I think they're all in IMs or private voice chat, or away on Discord.

The biggest secret in all of SL .. we're all standing in silence .. doing something in a browser, reddit, facebook, photoshop, gaming .. waiting for the sound of an incoming IM.

WE ALL DO IT. 

We all hope everyone else isn't.

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32 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:

The biggest secret in all of SL .. we're all standing in silence .. doing something in a browser, reddit, facebook, photoshop, gaming .. waiting for the sound of an incoming IM.

WE ALL DO IT. 

We all hope everyone else isn't.

I must be one of the few actually NOT doing those things when logged in and standing around.  I'll stand at home and shop MP but not when I'm out and about.

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41 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:

The biggest secret in all of SL .. we're all standing in silence .. doing something in a browser, reddit, facebook, photoshop, gaming .. waiting for the sound of an incoming IM.

WE ALL DO IT. 

We all hope everyone else isn't.

*raises hand*

I did this.  I used to go sit at a certain adult club that rhymes with peekies and work on editing pictures and doing blog posts.  I did this because I used to feel the "need" to be sociable and that was my attempt to do so.

Nowadays I stand on my skypad and do my picture editing and blog posts, and bounce around here when I want to pretend to be sociable.

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I know in the US most of our kids are now doing remote learning at home, which would make having sexytime during the day a bit.... inappropriate. I know for myself anyway, after dealing with my teens all day PLUS the normal household chores i am wiped out by the time they go to bed. 

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On 1/6/2021 at 5:17 PM, Lewis Luminos said:

I don't think its as common now as before, and I wonder if it's the rise of AFK sex places that's caused this trend. 

There is a simple business idea behind AFK places. Because parked avatars count as regular visitors the place seems to have high traffic. See the traffic value in about land at those places. At the same time the land owners offer tons of ad boards in hope that residents which are looking for places with high traffic rent them to promote their shop or whatever they operate. An additional bonus of the high traffic value is that the place gets a much better rank in the Second Life search engine. Try and type in the keyword "club" in your viewers search. Then visit some places with the highest traffic values. You expect places brimming with action? You will be surprised...

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1 hour ago, Doc Carling said:

There is a simple business idea behind AFK places. Because parked avatars count as regular visitors the place seems to have high traffic. See the traffic value in about land at those places. At the same time the land owners offer tons of ad boards in hope that residents which are looking for places with high traffic rent them to promote their shop or whatever they operate. An additional bonus of the high traffic value is that the place gets a much better rank in the Second Life search engine. Try and type in the keyword "club" in your viewers search. Then visit some places with the highest traffic values. You expect places brimming with action? You will be surprised...

Although your points are valid, I've made this same comment elsewhere.  If I were looking at places to rent ad boards, I would actually look around and see what kind of traffic a place had.  Personally, just seeing AFK in the name would keep me from renting there regardless of traffic numbers.  Also, when searching places, I normally disregard those same places.  Where you are in search really only matters, especially with sex places, if you're a noon looking for the "sexy times".

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2 hours ago, RowanMinx said:

If I were looking at places to rent ad boards, I would actually look around and see what kind of traffic a place had.

I would neither fall into it. But I guess there are still enough which do. Frustrating is if you are a club or shop owner and don't fake traffic too, no matter how hard you work you will never see your place in the higher search engine ranks.

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No one really knows. So they can't give you an objective answer. The best we can do is some anecdotal personal experiences. So you have 6 or 7 data points from the 30k to 60k concurrent users on each day. That is a really small sample.

I doubt there is any good way to tell how SL is or isn't changing culture-wise. I suspect SL simply follows RL culture changes.

There are a load of sex places that are well populated.

The Sands - usually 15 to 30 people any time of day, people are talking in IM and only some times does a fun local chat get going. Usually around the striper pole. In the porn theater people are in IM or watching the video. People do hump in public at the Sands. But we are script limited there. Add my genitals, Its Not Mine, some toys, and soon I'm getting warnings I'll be ejected for too many scripts. If I do tough it out I have to deal with excessive lag. It is better to go to their place or mine or a beach or club with low lag.

oRgAsMs - Is almost always busy. Lots of newbies. People do have sex in public.

Monica's LustHouse - This has recently changed. There used to always be lots of people there. Not so many now. They do have sex in public but it is a laggy place for having sex. For a time the LMs took you to a ground location and you had to find your way up to the lounge. I think they did that to show people the rest of places available in this region. Now the old LMs take you to the lounge as they used to.

Bumrose in Eden - This is a fun place but with script limits and a requirement to have spent some money on your avatar. The later isn't enforced. People sail or motor into the island with their boats. Lots of sex going on in public when anyone is there... typically 3 to 10 and more of an SL AM time of day place.

 

 

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On 1/7/2021 at 9:22 AM, Coffee Pancake said:

Most "social" locations in SL that aren't overtly about dancing tend to revolve around avatars entering an area and then standing in silence for hours.

Yes. That bears thinking about, but not in this topic.

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On 2/1/2021 at 12:01 PM, Tessa Danube said:

It has become more popular to roleplay sex in ims so as not have 20 people talking over each other in local chat. 

I'll admit I much prefer to keep the interactions to IM when engaging in certain acts in public due to the fact that one of the few times I did interact in public chat, it was interfered with by the current plaything of one of the club staff, despite being a rule of the establishment to not do so.  I did lodge a complaint with the owners, as it takes a lot of nerve to play in public for me and that really put me off doing it again.  Also the staff member was standing right behind her plaything and did nothing to stop him, and in fact encouraged it.

I also dislike the whole calling sex 'role play' thing.  Role play to me implies making a persona, playing a character etc, and yes, sometimes sex can be a role play (ie naughty school girl, Dr/nurse etc), but usually it is just bonking.  When I shag someone, I am me.

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5 hours ago, Jordan Whitt said:

I also dislike the whole calling sex 'role play' thing.  Role play to me implies making a persona, playing a character etc, and yes, sometimes sex can be a role play (ie naughty school girl, Dr/nurse etc), but usually it is just bonking.  When I shag someone, I am me.

This.

Role Play is so much more than any sex that might happen while pursuing the advancements of a character. Sex can happily exist without the fluff and pretense.

 

As for how this relates to the standing about in silence at a club or event, someone loudly presuming "everyone's being naughty in IM's" is a trope as old as SL, and while I can't say it doesn't ever happen, it's the exception rather than the rule.

We really are all stood about. Maybe chatting, profile surfing, more likely reading some social website, wishing terrible things on that one guy with the HOOOOOOOO gesture and waiting for the IM message PINGS (and being disappointed when it's groupspam).

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