Janet Voxel Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 48 minutes ago, Tarina Sewell said: I would believe so yes. Providing they speak in open chat. So in a lively local chat it snaps from person to person? That must be really annoying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Legion Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Except, someone most certainly did mention the Look At colors. This is on top of the way they actually function having been quite thoroughly explained. Pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritSparrow Skydancer Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Janet Voxel said: So in a lively local chat it snaps from person to person? That must be really annoying! Not really, just turn off show look at. Edited January 1, 2021 by Tarina Sewell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagnu Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rat Luv said: I used to have a sound gesture of the SL camera noise. I know it's bad, but I couldn't resist triggering it sometimes It was surprising how many people would get uptight about it, lol. People get pissed in Rl too. I was shooting a documentary film in RL once of an event that lasted several days, and had people really pissed when I came close with the cam. I'll never forget this one lady who was really upset at me, and told me to get away in no uncertain terms, and I did. Then 2 days later she said "Mr. Cameraman, when can I be on film"?. I replied: "never". To make it clear though, my career is not in cinematography. It is just something I have been involved with in the past. Edited January 1, 2021 by Bagnu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Janet Voxel said: So in a lively local chat it snaps from person to person? That must be really annoying! A lot of people have theirs set to not broadcast and the others may be looking elsewhere or doing something else with their cursor so chances are, not everyone's crosshairs will be on the speaker. In fact, I rarely see those grey shades on people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Voxel Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, RowanMinx said: A lot of people have theirs set to not broadcast and the others may be looking elsewhere or doing something else with their cursor so chances are, not everyone's crosshairs will be on the speaker. In fact, I rarely see those grey shades on people. I guess it depends on where you hang out. Because I see it all the time! I mean a lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Voxel Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 27 minutes ago, Tarina Sewell said: Not really, just turn off show look at. Is it enabled by default on a particular viewer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Janet Voxel said: Is it enabled by default on a particular viewer? It is enabled by default on FS and a few others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Janet Voxel said: I guess it depends on where you hang out. Because I see it all the time! I mean a lot of them. Then I'd guess all those grey crosshairs are mostly idle avatars. I know even if I'm standing somewhere, my cursor is moving around doing something as are most people at their keyboards. Either in IM so my cursor is active there or looking around at people. It's when someone is idle/afk or in another window/discord, that you mostly see the grey crosshairs. At least, that's been my observation. I think it's enabled by default on firestorm or used to be. Edited January 1, 2021 by RowanMinx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritSparrow Skydancer Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, Bagnu said: People get pissed in Rl too. I was shooting a documentary film in RL once of an event that lasted several days, and had people really pissed when I came close with the cam. I'll never forget this one lady who was really upset at me, and told me to get away in no uncertain terms, and I did. Then 2 days later she said "Mr. Cameraman, when can I be on film"?. I replied: "never". To make it clear though, my career is not in cinematography. It is just something I have been involved with in the past. I always thought you needed peoples permission to film them, but with cell phones and people shaming I guess there are no rules anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Liramaril said: ohh nice! now how do I turn off people seeing whst I inspect/edit too... what viewer do you use? That would probably be show particle/selection beam..I know it's somewhere in preferences on firestorm and the tools menu on LL viewer? Show Selection Beam - Shows / hides a particle beam that appears when an item is selected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Luv Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, Bagnu said: I'll never forget this one lady who was really upset at me, and told me to get away in no uncertain terms, and I did. Then 2 days later she said "Mr. Cameraman, when can I be on film"?. I replied: "never". Weird turnaround! Maybe she was caught off guard on the first day and felt insecure...but no need for her to be nasty about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagnu Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, Tarina Sewell said: I always thought you needed peoples permission to film them, but with cell phones and people shaming I guess there are no rules anymore. It's not being on cam that's the issue, it's needing permission to show it. I was there to document the event, and the footage was not for personal use. In that particular setting, it was appropriate. I was simply filming the event for the producer. He is responsible for anything beyond that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Luv Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tarina Sewell said: I always thought you needed peoples permission to film them, but with cell phones and people shaming I guess there are no rules anymore. I think the (UK) law says that if you're in a public space, you accept that there's a reasonable chance of you being filmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagnu Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Rat Luv said: I think the (UK) law says that if you're in a public space, you accept that there's a reasonable chance of you being filmed. This was a University of Toronto orientation that I was filming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagnu Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rat Luv said: Weird turnaround! Maybe she was caught off guard on the first day and felt insecure...but no need for her to be nasty about it. It's not that weird. I find it takes people a bit of time to get used to someone taking film or pics. She was just nastier than most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Luv Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, Bagnu said: This was a University of Toronto orientation that I was filming. Ah OK. I'm not sure...I'd guess it'd be something similar though? Otherwise, you'd have crowd shots at music and sports events and somebody could sue because they were shown without consent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagnu Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 That's the producer's concern. I just shot the footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagnu Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Seriously though, it's a U of T orientation. It's not like people would ever see it again. It was shown there for three nights, and the people who came to see it were a part of the experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odaks Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Rat Luv said: I think the (UK) law says that if you're in a public space, you accept that there's a reasonable chance of you being filmed. In the UK, photographers have the right to take photographs of anything in the public space, despite what some police would have people believe. However, there are some serious pitfalls ahead when it comes to publishing those photographs, and it can get quite complicated when deciding what needs permission and what doesn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Luminos Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 11 hours ago, Bagnu said: People get pissed in Rl too. I was shooting a documentary film in RL once of an event that lasted several days, and had people really pissed when I came close with the cam. I'll never forget this one lady who was really upset at me, and told me to get away in no uncertain terms, and I did. Then 2 days later she said "Mr. Cameraman, when can I be on film"?. I replied: "never". To make it clear though, my career is not in cinematography. It is just something I have been involved with in the past. Something similar (but rather the opposite) happened to me, years ago. I was walking through my city railway station and noticed that there were a lot of police officers around. Then someone ran past me, bumped into me, with a couple of coppers in pursuit. I wondered what was going on. Then a man approached me, asked me if I was okay (I said yes) and he explained that they were filming a TV drama show, and wanted to know if I would agree to the shot being used, if they decided to use that particular take. I agreed, and wished them good luck. Six months later I saw the show on TV - they did use the take with me in it, but I was seen only from behind - getting jostled and then standing there looking perfectly bewildered about what just happened. They say everyone gets 15 minutes of fame. I have 14 minutes and 50 seconds still to go. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talligurl Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 19 hours ago, Rat Luv said: I think the (UK) law says that if you're in a public space, you accept that there's a reasonable chance of you being filmed. This is the law in the United States, my understanding is that if you are anywhere in a virtual world you have given consent to have your avi photographed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 When in doubt, do the research. (b) Avatar Consent for Machinima For machinima, you must have the consent of all Residents whose avatars or Second Life names are featured or recognizable in the machinima. This includes avatars who are featured in a shot, avatars whose names are legible, and avatars whose appearance is sufficiently distinctive that they are recognizable by members of the Second Life community. Consent is not required if an avatar is not recognizable and is merely part of a crowd scene or shown in a fleeting background. Consent is not required for any snapshots. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Snapshot_and_machinima_policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liramaril Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 wow... in terms of snooping, an item just came up on my mp home page where you can drop a script into an item for a partner to wear, a ring for example, and it relays all their text? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Convair Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 10 hours ago, Talligurl said: This is the law in the United States, my understanding is that if you are anywhere in a virtual world you have given consent to have your avi photographed. Your RL avatar is protected by law. Your SL avatar is not. Don't confuse this two avatars. 😁 There is no photographing in SL - that's screenshots of a "game" avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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