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10 minutes ago, RowanMinx said:

I'm going to assume it's this one.  I've used it, I know it's a function of rlv collars.  Which particular function it is, I'm not sure.  It CAN be done, however.

Redirect public chat to private channels : "@redirchat:<channel_number>=<rem/add>"

Implemented in v1.16

When active, this restriction redirects whatever the user says on the public channel ("/0") to the private channel provided in the option field. If several redirections are issued, the chat message will be redirected to each channel. It does not apply to emotes, and will not trigger any animation (typing start, typing stop, nodding) when talking. This restriction does not supercede @sendchannel. NOTE: As of RLV v1.22.1 / RLVa 1.1.0, it had a bug that @redirchat also truncates emotes on channel 0. An additional @emote=add works around this side-effect. This bug was fixed in the Cool VL Viewer starting with v1.22g (but Marine's RLV v1.23 still had this bug) and RLV v2.0 (it is safe to assume it was fixed in all viewers starting with v1.24 and v2.0).

The redirect command removes your ability to speak in local chat at all. Not the most subtle "spy feature."

8 minutes ago, RowanMinx said:

If I'm wearing a collar, the owner can set whatever it is to be able to hear local chat wherever I am.  It's a function as I said, although if it still IS, I'm not sure since I don't wear one at this time.

Just because you have a collar that has RLV features and is able to listen to your chat (which I'm not trying to deny at all), that doesn't mean that RLV is the one doing the listening. I don't understand why this simple clarification is so difficult to understand that you must try to claim otherwise.

Yes, you can absolutely spy on local chat, no matter where you are on the grid. All you need for this is llListen and llInstantMessage. These are purely LSL features, not RLV.

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3 minutes ago, Wulfie Reanimator said:

The redirect command removes your ability to speak in local chat at all. Not the most subtle "spy feature."

Just because you have a collar that has RLV features and is able to listen to your chat (which I'm not trying to deny at all), that doesn't mean that RLV is the one doing the listening. I don't understand why this simple clarification is so difficult to understand that you must try to claim otherwise.that

Yes, you can absolutely spy on local chat, no matter where you are on the grid. All you need for this is llListen and llInstantMessage. These are purely LSL features, not RLV.

I'm not claiming anything aside from the fact that the only time I've seen this function was when I, personally, wore an rlv collar so that is ALL I'm speaking about.  Whatever the collar uses to listen is irrelevant to me.  How is that so hard to comprehend?

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8 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

I'm reasonably certain some LSL features are in RLV. 🤭

Sure, like teleporting, sitting, or attaching/detaching items.

5 minutes ago, RowanMinx said:

I'm not claiming anything aside from the fact that the only time I've seen this function was when I, personally, wore an rlv collar so that is ALL I'm speaking about.  Whatever the collar uses to listen is irrelevant to me.  How is that so hard to comprehend?

I just wanted to clarify a misconception, you literally asked the question...

Why are you making me out to be the aggressor here?

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1 minute ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

I'm reasonably certain some LSL features are in RLV. 

Of course.  RLV is just an add-on to LSL, which is the only scripting language that you can use in SL.  The point Wulfie is making here is that you don't need RLV to do this simple trick of listening to and redirecting local chat.  You can do it very easily without RLV. It's just that RLV compresses some common operations into a customized shorthand form that saves you having to write out all the LSL code each time.

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10 minutes ago, Wulfie Reanimator said:

Yes, you can absolutely spy on local chat, no matter where you are on the grid. All you need for this is llListen and llInstantMessage. These are purely LSL features, not RLV.

Then this is what is implemented in rlv collars.

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1 minute ago, Rolig Loon said:

Of course.  RLV is just an add-on to LSL, which is the only scripting language that you can use in SL.  The point Wulfie is making here is that you don't need RLV to do this simple trick of listening to and redirecting local chat.  You can do it very easily without RLV. It's just that RLV compresses some common operations into a customized shorthand form that saves you having to write out all the LSL code each time.

I understand what was said.  But that is what the majority of people use to listen in on someone else's local chat.  Wouldn't I need to accept and wear something like the item listed on MP in order for you to listen?  The whole point was...you could get a free collar and get the same functionality and not spend 2500L to catch your partner cheating.

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It probably doesn't matter is someone gets a freebie collar, is dumb enough to pay L$2500 for a script, or gets some freebie scripts and drops them in an object to give to the cheating person. 

Even is said cheating person wears the object/collar, they are likely cheating with an alt account that is unknown to the person trying to catch them.

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4 minutes ago, RowanMinx said:

But that is what the majority of people use to listen in on someone else's local chat.  Wouldn't I need to accept and wear something like the item listed on MP in order for you to listen?  The whole point was...you could get a free collar and get the same functionality and not spend 2500L to catch your partner cheating.

Oh, I have no idea what "the majority" of people use, but no, you wouldn't need to accept and wear an RLV collar in order to listen.  For example, DJs in lots of clubs in SL use a simple "microphone" repeater system to broadcast whatever they say over a larger area than normal chat allows. The few lines of LSL code that go into a device like that can simply broadcast on a private channel that you can listen to with a HUD.  A beginning scripter can write that sort of code. Anyone who spends $L2500 on a gadget like that is being fleeced.  

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24 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:

Of course.  RLV is just an add-on to LSL, which is the only scripting language that you can use in SL.  The point Wulfie is making here is that you don't need RLV to do this simple trick of listening to and redirecting local chat.  You can do it very easily without RLV. It's just that RLV compresses some common operations into a customized shorthand form that saves you having to write out all the LSL code each time.

I understood him. I know it can be done without RLV. Only point I was making is that they're both right and they're not quite on the same page. Almost but not quite and almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, as the old saying goes.

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34 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

I understood him. I know it can be done without RLV. Only point I was making is that they're both right and they're not quite on the same page. Almost but not quite and almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, as the old saying goes.

I understood also.  My use of rlv collars was my only reference as to the listen function.  How it is implemented wasn't what I was talking about just that it's in there.  

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3 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

OMG - That is truly comical ---- 2500 L$ for a script to drop into something the person MIGHT wear.  Not to mention the fact that most folks cheating in SL are doing so with an alt account.

There's a sucker born every minute.

I once worked in a club where two of the DJs did not get on at all, and one became convinced the other was slating her to the regulars...so she bugged the place with a listening script in an object and spent two hours on another sim reading the local chat...

We later asked how it went and she said "No, he didn't say anything about me", so we were like, "Oh, that's good," and she said "Nobody mentioned me at all!" and was quite upset ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. So I'd advise against using this script let alone pay 2,500L for it!

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6 minutes ago, Rat Luv said:

I once worked in a club where two of the DJs did not get on at all, and one became convinced the other was slating her to the regulars...so she bugged the place with a listening script in an object and spent two hours on another sim reading the local chat...

We later asked how it went and she said "No, he didn't say anything about me", so we were like, "Oh, that's good," and she said "Nobody mentioned me at all!" and was quite upset ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. So I'd advise against using this script let alone pay 2,500L for it!

Yea, we had someone do this to us years back.. We found out they had planted one of these objects and had been listening to what had been going on for quite some time..

So we decided to fake some things like relationships and all kinds of stuff.. one time was all of us standing around this thing acting like everyone in the place was having a big orgy..

 *Ceka jumping up on the table dancing  in the middle of everyone, slowly pulls out a spatula and an avocado then proceeds to* .......Hang on!! the phones ringing again, I'll be right back! Jeeeeeeesus! \o/

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42 minutes ago, Rat Luv said:

I once worked in a club where two of the DJs did not get on at all, and one became convinced the other was slating her to the regulars...so she bugged the place with a listening script in an object and spent two hours on another sim reading the local chat...

We later asked how it went and she said "No, he didn't say anything about me", so we were like, "Oh, that's good," and she said "Nobody mentioned me at all!" and was quite upset ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. So I'd advise against using this script let alone pay 2,500L for it!

These scripts are illegal to use on SL, yes?

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Just now, Tarina Sewell said:

These scripts are illegal to use on SL, yes?

Not technically.  The TOS forbids sharing conversations in chat, but not listening to them.  If you were using the information to stalk the person or were posting the conversation in the forums or your group, you'd be in trouble, but not just for listening to it.

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5 minutes ago, Tarina Sewell said:

These scripts are illegal to use on SL, yes?

I don't know really. I was going to say they probably are, but it might be different from IM copying policy as it only records local chat?

It's definitely bad form though.

ETA: Rolig beat me to it

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4 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

OMG - That is truly comical ---- 2500 L$ for a script to drop into something the person MIGHT wear.  Not to mention the fact that most folks cheating in SL are doing so with an alt account.

There's a sucker born every minute.

 

OMG, I know.  The crazy things on Marketplace.  I've seen many.  I went on Marketplace to start looking at skyboxes I might like as I'd like to have a home for a few months anyways.  Well, I ended up finding that above and bought lipstick.  Haven't looked at skyboxes yet.  Typical day on Marketplace.  

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On 12/28/2020 at 6:43 AM, Dano Seale said:

Lol, Lorena Bobitt - cut off her hubby's pee pee with a knife for cheating! 

Not for cheating. For sexual assault. This is one of my personal soap boxes. People titter and chuckle about this story, but Bobbit was a rapist who got his just desserts.

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not all sex is porn , its about love not lust, and sex should be enjoyed and not treated just as a baby making tool, its in our nature to peform it, and should not be treated as taboo subject, its about the joining of to people in a act of love 

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4 minutes ago, binder59 said:

not all sex is porn , its about love not lust, and sex should be enjoyed and not treated just as a baby making tool, its in our nature to peform it, and should not be treated as taboo subject, its about the joining of to people in a act of love 

Yes, the best sex for me was when I loved the person.  Nothing else can compare to that so casual sex I can take it or leave...it's not so great, so I leave it.  I reserve sex for rl love and relationship this is the main reason I'm not interested in cybersex and it feels intrusive in my own home and space.  I don't want someone I don't know on the internet getting too friendly with me that they want to be in my personal real life space.  

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