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So far i've filed several abuse reports regarding a handful of alts which remain logged in for days. I only recently noticed the main and his/her alts would tp to a spot on a region i live in and tp out within 5-15 seconds. All of these accounts appear as orange clouds to me. I believe im being traced from region to region because they would appear on a sim i tp to for a very brief moment then log out. This could happen up to 5 times a day for the duration of when im online, also these alts usually end up at public hubs or sandboxes but not sure where they spend most hours of each day. 

I messaged the person what their deal was. No answer, so i chose to not dive more otherwise i'll be feeding the troll. I never have accepted random items from strangers or even friends. Nor have i ever issued anyone map rights.Somehow even on my very discreet shopping alt i was found at a remote sim which is (i believe) almost impossible since its a whole other account when one of their griefer alts found me there.

I want to know how this is possible and how i could counteract this. Blocking doesnt solve the issue if i cant use an alternative or new account and still be tracked.

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32 minutes ago, NickixSantos said:

So far i've filed several abuse reports regarding a handful of alts which remain logged in for days. I only recently noticed the main and his/her alts would tp to a spot on a region i live in and tp out within 5-15 seconds. All of these accounts appear as orange clouds to me. I believe im being traced from region to region because they would appear on a sim i tp to for a very brief moment then log out. This could happen up to 5 times a day for the duration of when im online, also these alts usually end up at public hubs or sandboxes but not sure where they spend most hours of each day. 

I messaged the person what their deal was. No answer, so i chose to not dive more otherwise i'll be feeding the troll. I never have accepted random items from strangers or even friends. Nor have i ever issued anyone map rights.Somehow even on my very discreet shopping alt i was found at a remote sim which is (i believe) almost impossible since its a whole other account when one of their griefer alts found me there.

I want to know how this is possible and how i could counteract this. Blocking doesnt solve the issue if i cant use an alternative or new account and still be tracked.

The only way anyone can track you from region to region is if you are wearing a tracker or you have given someone map rights.   You claim that you have haven't accepted anything from anyone or given map rights -- and if that is true then nobody is truly tracking you, regardless of what it might seem like.

BTW - How do you know that these are all alts of the same person?

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From what i understand so far according to what you said that they remain logged in for days and are usually parked in sandboxes or safe hubs they must be bots gathering statistics etc. Btw how did you figure out they are parked in such areas? You went out searching random SL locations to find those alts/bots?

Anyway since there's no contact from them and none has tried to enter your private parcel or did something malicious then i don't think an abuse report will do anything simply because there is no abuse. Sim to sim tracking isn't possible unless you have a tracker attached on your avatar.

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22 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

The only way anyone can track you from region to region is if you are wearing a tracker or you have given someone map rights.   You claim that you have haven't accepted anything from anyone or given map rights -- and if that is true then nobody is truly tracking you, regardless of what it might seem like.

BTW - How do you know that these are all alts of the same person?

How would it be possible for 5 of these people (3 months of SL age) able to find a noob alt i made on a very remote sim? This is on a totally different account, one of which i have no friends and not accepted gifts there. 

Im trying to understand if there is any malware that could be involved or something beyond SL.. How can they find me on two different accounts? And as for whether they all belong to one person? I believe this is the case because a close friend helped me and noticed their log in times were seconds off and would remain online for days. 

As for gifts do they need to be attached to be useful to the griefer?

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20 minutes ago, Nick0678 said:

Anyway since there's no contact from them and none has tried to enter your private parcel or did something malicious then i don't think an abuse report will do anything simply because there is no abuse.

So, the bottom line is that the OP has no evidence other than coincidence to suggest that someone is tracking him/her, and because the visitors are not actually doing anything except being there, there is no abuse.  The solution is pretty clear: Don't worry about it. 

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2 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:

So, the bottom line is that the OP has no evidence other than coincidence to suggest that someone is tracking him/her, and because the visitors are not actually doing anything except being there, there is no abuse.  The solution is pretty clear: Don't worry about it. 

Its honestly no coincidence, they tp'd off to fast to even get a screenshot unless i start activating shadowplay. At my home region they've been parcel banned after they tried coming to my home. At least when i log in, they would appear several times at my home region PLUS any other region i visit. I am stating with confidence i dont have a tracker on. Because this exact thing is happening on my alt as well. It cant simply be down to coincidence because its been over the span of 6 months. 

All im asking is advice on how to counteract their griefing tools because its beyond one SL account 

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1 minute ago, Rolig Loon said:

But it's not griefing if all they are doing is being there.  You might not like them, but if they aren't actually doing something, just ignore them.

I'm concerned my account is compromised because its not just one avi this is happening to. How i can be followed by the same people on separate accounts? I dont want to risk my lindens being stolen or personal information. Can this be through accessing my IP address? Any clarity for this would be appreciated 

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47 minutes ago, NickixSantos said:

How would it be possible for 5 of these people (3 months of SL age) able to find a noob alt i made on a very remote sim? This is on a totally different account, one of which i have no friends and not accepted gifts there. 

Im trying to understand if there is any malware that could be involved or something beyond SL.. How can they find me on two different accounts? And as for whether they all belong to one person? I believe this is the case because a close friend helped me and noticed their log in times were seconds off and would remain online for days. 

As for gifts do they need to be attached to be useful to the griefer?

Tracker objects must be attached to you. 

Malware is only a possible issue if you are not using the official SL viewer downloaded from the LL website or one of the listed 3rd party viewers downloaded from their website.

Your account being compromised is only a possibility if you are using easy passwords or fell for a phishing link.

 

If you are really worried, uninstall any viewers you have installed and completely delete the related folders on your computer.  Reset the passwords associated with all of your accounts.  Run a full virus and malware scan on your computer.  Then start over with SL.

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1 hour ago, Nick0678 said:

From what i understand so far according to what you said that they remain logged in for days and are usually parked in sandboxes or safe hubs they must be bots gathering statistics etc.

@NickixSantosThere are many places I visit where I see these bots just like @Nick0678mentioned above.  They pop into a region and then pop out. I've never bothered to look at them.  A few land companies have these that run all day and night, in and out of a region multiple times a day.  I think you're overreacting just a bit.  

How exactly are they griefing you?  Going in and out of a region is hardly griefing.  

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4 minutes ago, RowanMinx said:

@NickixSantosThere are many places I visit where I see these bots just like @Nick0678mentioned above.  They pop into a region and then pop out. I've never bothered to look at them.  A few land companies have these that run all day and night, in and out of a region multiple times a day.  I think you're overreacting just a bit.  

How exactly are they griefing you?  Going in and out of a region is hardly griefing.  

I know appearing in a region isnt griefing that actually isnt a big concern for me. But i cant downplay being followed several times a day across my other accounts with the same avis  that have tracked me on my main. I've even tp'd to some remote sims on my 3 week alt to test, which 3 of the tracking alts found my location and actually tp'd back twice within 15 minutes. That doesnt sound like bot activity to me it sounds like someone might have personal information they got somehow through SL or somewhere. This happens daily now and the fact i can be found by the same people on each account is concerning to me. I wouldnt make a post if it was i felt it was petty.

 

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3 minutes ago, NickixSantos said:
4 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Sounds like you will be giving up on Second Life, then. Can we have your stuff?

False.

Ok. You don't believe us - about the land survey / mapping bots, or the fact they are not literally "following you".  But you're not giving up, either.

How do you want us to console you, or was it your intention to just complain without accepting any advice?

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Just now, Love Zhaoying said:

Ok. You don't believe us - about the land survey / mapping bots, or the fact they are not literally "following you".  But you're not giving up, either.

How do you want us to console you, or was it your intention to just complain without accepting any advice?

Really isn't a need for the passive aggressiveness i'm not complaining at all. Littleme Jewell has given me advice about some possible solutions, which im following as we speak. Tc

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Nick, there isn't, so far as I know, any device or scheme that allows you to actually either determine which accounts are alts owned by a particular person, or track an avatar on the grid. However, good detective work can often make it appear that someone is doing these things.

Alts can be guessed, based on name similarities, similarities in communication styles, and places frequented.  And, if you have told ANYONE about an alt, you can consider that information is compromised.  ("Three people can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.").

It's easy to determine if a person is on line, although not WHERE they are on the grid.

My viewer (Firestorm) can see avatars a long ways off, and cam to them.  If someone teleports to a region within three or four regions of where you are, they may be able to pick you up.  Teleporting rapidly between a person's known haunts, when you know they are on line, will often be enough to locate them.

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8 minutes ago, Lindal Kidd said:

Nick, there isn't, so far as I know, any device or scheme that allows you to actually either determine which accounts are alts owned by a particular person, or track an avatar on the grid. However, good detective work can often make it appear that someone is doing these things.

Alts can be guessed, based on name similarities, similarities in communication styles, and places frequented.  And, if you have told ANYONE about an alt, you can consider that information is compromised.  ("Three people can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.").

It's easy to determine if a person is on line, although not WHERE they are on the grid.

My viewer (Firestorm) can see avatars a long ways off, and cam to them.  If someone teleports to a region within three or four regions of where you are, they may be able to pick you up.  Teleporting rapidly between a person's known haunts, when you know they are on line, will often be enough to locate them.

Alright I understand that completely. Im also following the advice LittleMe Jewell had submitted above for extra measures. How do i have a post closed from more answers? I think im finished here 

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5 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:

A thread is never closed, unless the moderators consider that it is violating community standards.  Once opened, a thread is public, not "owned" by whoever started it.  It remains open for additional comments/observations/ or tangential issues.

Alright thanks, its my first time using this forum and kept getting notifications 

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The same thing is happening to me! It's not like I'm wandering and coming across these said accounts. Any land I live on or visit  they pop up. I have made it a thing to Note in their account where and when I seen them. I can understand if all the regions were owned by the same company then would consider them being business alts but, that is not the case. They follow me EVERY where. I can see a regular avatar once while out shopping and never see that account again my whole entire SL. Yet, I keep seeing the same 6 accounts pop in and out ever land I visit? 

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41 minutes ago, Kawaii Kiyori said:

The same thing is happening to me! It's not like I'm wandering and coming across these said accounts. Any land I live on or visit  they pop up. I have made it a thing to Note in their account where and when I seen them. I can understand if all the regions were owned by the same company then would consider them being business alts but, that is not the case. They follow me EVERY where. I can see a regular avatar once while out shopping and never see that account again my whole entire SL. Yet, I keep seeing the same 6 accounts pop in and out ever land I visit? 

there are a ton of bots that are in and out of sims,  it's an annoyance.    I see the same ones daily,  we ban them, they end up on a parcel we dont control,  this can happen multiple times a day too with the same accounts.  

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19 minutes ago, bigmoe Whitfield said:

there are a ton of bots that are in and out of sims,  it's an annoyance.    I see the same ones daily,  we ban them, they end up on a parcel we dont control,  this can happen multiple times a day too with the same accounts.  

I've been playing second life almost 11 years and have NEVER seen this until recently. So, sorry if I really don't think it's a coincidence or random bots. 

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