Will media prims die?

[Gabryel Nyoki]

 

Adobe Flash ends Dec 31st 2020.

Media prims use flash player and Adobe prohibits its usage after Dec 31st 2020.

The plug in is media_plugin_cef I believe.

So?

[Wulfie Reanimator]

Flash will die, Media On A Prim will live on.

[Fritigern Gothly]

15 minutes ago, Gabryel Nyoki said:

The plug in is media_plugin_cef I believe.

 

Old media players, the ones that worked in the olden days before Media on a Prim (MOAP) which is also called Shared Media, those will stop working. Those depended on a QuickTime plugin which Apple has killed off some time ago and if my memory serves me well, that plugin was replaced with something else which works even less well than QuickTime did. 
CEF, however, supports different codecs and most of them more modern than what used to work in SL. 
Yes, all Flash will stop working (which was already announced many years ago), but HTML5, WebM, MP4, MPG, and so forth and so forth will still work.
So yeah, you can keep watching your YouTube videos (they have not been using Flash anymore for some time now), but if you expect to play Flash games on your in-world browser on on a prim, then you will be out of luck and you will have to find some HTML5 games to replace your Flash games.

[Qie Niangao]

I think everything uses CEF today, both Parcel media and Shared media. Certainly I've been using embedded mp4s on both ever since they updated CEF to support that Adult Swim streaming thing a few months ago.

[Rachel1206]

Some background...

Less than 5% of videos/media on the web today use Flash. Adobe announced its retirement in 2017: "In collaboration with several of our technology partners - including Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft and Mozilla, Adobe is planning to end-of-life Flash. Specifically, we will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020 and encourage content creators to migrate any existing Flash content to these new open formats."

Adobe released Flash in 1996 and what looked liked an good idea to support media/games/multi-media presentations easy on the web  as used on personal computers, quickly turned into the stuff nightmares are made of for network security administrators, professional programmers and media content creators. It was basically a flawed and insecure technology from start. Beside being insecure, it did not support power consumption, mobile devices, touch GUI or open standards.

As Wired commented: "No one should shed a tear for Flash's coming disappearance. The web will be safer, faster, smoother without it."

If someone in Second Life in year 2020 still have Flash videos, it is about time to update those to HTML-5/MPEG-4 or simply ditch those old typical 320x256 sized pixelated low FPS bad quality videos!

CEF - what is that?

Based on the libVLC (VLC SDK) media framework it is Linden Labs implementation of media support in the viewer. In a sub-folder to the viewers folder the dynamic link libraries in order to support multi media are found, including media_plugin_cef

 

Edited November 17, 2020 by Rachel1206
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[Gayngel]

MP4 doesn't work actually. Issues with licensing. Live streams encode to MP4 which is why they don't work. @Qie Niangao How are you getting them to play?

Edit: Nevermind I read previous posts elsewhere. Needs FS Beta or the newest SL Viewer.

Edited November 18, 2020 by Gayngel

[Gabryel Nyoki]

So,

Why did my CEF stop working in my Official viewer? I thought it was because flash was uninstalled, os it was a coincidence?

 

[Fritigern Gothly]

Your issue is unrelated to the deprecation of Flash. CEF does not stop working just because Flash does. Not to mention that CEF dos not even offer Flash support due to licensing fees which would be involved if they did.

 

[Nova Convair]

I removed flash quite some years ago from my system.

So there are no upcoming changes from my point of view and I did not encounter any problems all the time. (not seeing garbage flash stuff was and is no problem for me) 😁