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Hello again, @riverjoy! Anshe Chung is indeed an SL success story.  In fact, she might be the biggest SL success story of all.  She (and now her family) own so many regions in SL that Linden Lab

I think you should try stand up comedy. You look talented. 

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Should we assume you mean 500L and not 500,000L as your post indicates?  There are always jobs posted in the inworld employment section.  They're usually for DJ s, hosts, dancers or escorts.  Some pay per shift plus tips and some are just tips.  There is also a place that offers free classes on hosting.  Requirements are listed too in most cases.  

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6 minutes ago, RowanMinx said:

Should we assume you mean 500L and not 500,000L as your post indicates?  There are always jobs posted in the inworld employment section.  They're usually for DJ s, hosts, dancers or escorts.  Some pay per shift plus tips and some are just tips.  There is also a place that offers free classes on hosting.  Requirements are listed too in most cases.  

The main goal is 500k but I know i have to start smaller.

I heard there are some people that bought brothels and multiple homes and rented them out

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21 minutes ago, riverjoy said:

The main goal is 500k but I know i have to start smaller.

I heard there are some people that bought brothels and multiple homes and rented them out

Although it's great to have goals, unless you create something that a lot of people buy or rent/sell land (which would be a huge initial investment), there is no way you'll make anywhere near that amount weekly in SL.

I thought about not even replying since I wondered after you said 500K a week, you had to be trolling.

But good luck!

 

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35 minutes ago, riverjoy said:

Hey all,

New player here so was hoping someone could fill me in on various jobs and incomes players do to make L$

My goal is to make L$500k per week

If anyone could offer advice that would be helpful :)

You want to make US$2,000 per week? That is not going to happen without some serious investment on your behalf, be that an investment of money, time, or skill. You will indeed have to start small, and probably stay 'small' for some time before you hit that level of income on a regular basis. And you will need to work in order to maintain that level of income.

You ask: "What do they pay on average and what do you make?" - The average 'employee' within Second Life makes nowhere near what you want. Even the biggest creators still need to invest months of time and effort into creating something and then that 'something' needs to sell a lot of copies to get that kind of income. A Bento mesh head, for example, takes months to develop, and you'd need to sell 100 of them every month. If you're a Genus or a Catwa or a Lelutka then that's something you can do. But each of those creators have taken years to build up their customer base.

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I just think it is interesting that the OP didn't ask what it took to make $2000 US/week, but wanted to know what JOBS would get you there. What jobs are there in SL? DJ, hostess, hooker, CSR, estate manager... I dunno. All of those IRL would make no where near $2000/wk or $104,000/year. (I guess we should also know: net or gross? lol) So for a six-figure income the OP just wants to be a grunt, doing work for someone else NOT being their own boss.

There are dreams and then there is being delusional.

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1 hour ago, riverjoy said:

My goal is to make L$500k per week

L$500k per week before L$-to-US$ conversion, credit process fees, and VAT+income tax, or after? What about overhead costs, like cosmetics/clothing/props/software/hardware? How much are you willing to invest? Making L$500k per week usually comes at a price.

But most importantly: what if it's a *****ty job that's also time-consuming? Would you still do it for that money?

1 hour ago, riverjoy said:

I heard there are some people that bought brothels and multiple homes and rented them out

Oh jeez, I thought it was a serious question. Nvm.

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Hi, @riverjoy, and welcome to Second Life!

In case the others haven't made it clear there is ZERO chance that you will ever have a job in SL that pays you $L500,000 per week.  The only way that you could possibly see this kind of income is by running your own highly successful business.  Even then, your chances are not great.  There are thousands of creators on the Marketplace, and thousands of landlords.  A lot of them make just enough money to pay for their Second Life expenses. A smaller, but still sizable, number of them make enough for it to be called a "side hustle"...but they still need a real job in Real Life to make ends meet.  Out of all those thousands, there are a few hundred people who actually make a full time living with Second Life.

There are two pathways: Land Baron or Content Creator.  Land barons own many full size regions, and rent out land on them to tenants.  The expenses are high...it costs $349 USD to purchase a region, and then $229 per month to maintain it.  You must make enough from your tenants to offset those costs and leave you with a profit.  You are competing with all the other land barons, as well as with Linden Lab itself, who offers Linden Homes to folks at a not-unreasonable cost.

Content creation provides the chance to make money without such a large investment up front.  However, you have to have excellent skills with software like Blender and Photoshop, and possibly programming skill with LSL, the scripting language of Second Life.  You'll also need good marketing skills, and a liberal dose of plain old luck.  People who make products like mesh bodies and heads, or animations, or the very best clothing and hair, can make significant money.

In pretty much all cases, if you have the skills to make a living out of Second Life, you can put those same skills to work in some Real Life area and get more money for your time and effort.  The people who work in SL almost always do it because they love SL, not because it's making them rich.

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1 hour ago, Lindal Kidd said:

Hi, @riverjoy, and welcome to Second Life!

In case the others haven't made it clear there is ZERO chance that you will ever have a job in SL that pays you $L500,000 per week.  The only way that you could possibly see this kind of income is by running your own highly successful business.  Even then, your chances are not great.  There are thousands of creators on the Marketplace, and thousands of landlords.  A lot of them make just enough money to pay for their Second Life expenses. A smaller, but still sizable, number of them make enough for it to be called a "side hustle"...but they still need a real job in Real Life to make ends meet.  Out of all those thousands, there are a few hundred people who actually make a full time living with Second Life.

There are two pathways: Land Baron or Content Creator.  Land barons own many full size regions, and rent out land on them to tenants.  The expenses are high...it costs $349 USD to purchase a region, and then $229 per month to maintain it.  You must make enough from your tenants to offset those costs and leave you with a profit.  You are competing with all the other land barons, as well as with Linden Lab itself, who offers Linden Homes to folks at a not-unreasonable cost.

Content creation provides the chance to make money without such a large investment up front.  However, you have to have excellent skills with software like Blender and Photoshop, and possibly programming skill with LSL, the scripting language of Second Life.  You'll also need good marketing skills, and a liberal dose of plain old luck.  People who make products like mesh bodies and heads, or animations, or the very best clothing and hair, can make significant money.

In pretty much all cases, if you have the skills to make a living out of Second Life, you can put those same skills to work in some Real Life area and get more money for your time and effort.  The people who work in SL almost always do it because they love SL, not because it's making them rich.

 

Thanks for your response.

Most people didn't read the first sentence as i asked VARIOUS jobs AND incomes.

I didn't say what 1 job as i know that is an impossibility.

So i know a combination of owning homes, clubs, doing escort jobs, hunting lodges etc will eventually accumulate.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, riverjoy said:

 

Thanks for your response.

Most people didn't read the first sentence as i asked VARIOUS jobs AND incomes.

I didn't say what 1 job as i know that is an impossibility.

So i know a combination of owning homes, clubs, doing escort jobs, hunting lodges etc will eventually accumulate.

 

 

Even with a combination of all of those, you still won't bring in that amount of money.  Revenue minus your expenses will make it impossible.  Clubs are notoriously money pits.  Escorting?  There are far too many of those and places to find them.  Rentals will incur the initial expense of purchasing land and paying tier to LL for that.  Hunting lodge?  I don't even know what that would entail but probably nothing that would generate money.   You may with several jobs working for someone else, be able to live comfortably in SL.  All that takes is your time mostly.  Hosting, djing, even escorting only pay with time spent doing it.  If it were that easy to make that much money in SL, don't you think all of us here in the forums who have been here for a long time, would already be doing it?

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I'm not saying the OP had a stupid question, although I think it was stupid adjacent. And, no, I'm not one of those warm fuzzy kittehs who says stupid things like, "There are no stupid questions" because of course there are.

However, the snitty push-back about the majority of people just not reading the first sentence in the OP *correctly* does make me laugh.

Go for it dude. Don't get your knickers in a twist because we aren't offering you a list of guaranteed six-figure income, but instead most of us are LoLing at the notion. Come back at us in six months when you have your jobs and various incomes that have netted you $L500K. Make us eat crow. I will, of course, be holding my breath for your return with the news.

 

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3 minutes ago, Gatogateau said:

Make us eat crow. 

 

I might do this in the weekend any way. Need to cook long but the taste is great bit gamey. 

 

To the Op: there are escorts here in the forum (one is unable to shut up about that) ask them how much they make how much time they spend doing it. 

If you want to own multiple homes and clubs  ask in the land forum how much starter money you need and how much work is to maintain it. 

(my calculation is if you have a sim you need to rent minimum 80 % to brake even, but I can be wrong).

So my point if you have the starter money and the time to do this in SL you are better to start a business irl. You have a bigger chance to do so. 

Even with streaming on twich or youtube will make more money then  sl. 

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If internet gambling ever happens perhaps people could make what the OP is asking but 'if' fully legalized internet gambling ever happens it might be regulated to a specific license or some other specifics and not just a general anyone.  

However, I agree with the other's that say if you aren't the big brands here, most of us make spending lindens here.  I never cash out.  I use what lindens I make for the virtual world.

Also, I don't think selling lindens is a good idea right now nor a good investment.  It sounds like you want to make an investment in SL and get a return...well, that takes a lot of work and patience.  Plus, if you have money to invest, invest in real life silver and gold right now is my best advice.  

 

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44 minutes ago, RowanMinx said:

Even with a combination of all of those, you still won't bring in that amount of money.  Revenue minus your expenses will make it impossible.  Clubs are notoriously money pits.  Escorting?  There are far too many of those and places to find them.  Rentals will incur the initial expense of purchasing land and paying tier to LL for that.  Hunting lodge?  I don't even know what that would entail but probably nothing that would generate money.   You may with several jobs working for someone else, be able to live comfortably in SL.  All that takes is your time mostly.  Hosting, djing, even escorting only pay with time spent doing it.  If it were that easy to make that much money in SL, don't you think all of us here in the forums who have been here for a long time, would already be doing it?

I'm just picturing all of us who have been in SL more than, what? five years? sitting around discussing our newest SL venture capital hijinks. I think Showtime's Billions is actually about us SL moguls and not Wall Street. 

money just walked in.gif

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There was a CSR job posted recently...


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Company name removed as per the forum rules. It’s been judged as ‘very low pay’ by at least one blogger but 10k per month for a couple of hours a day is from what I gather, ‘not bad for SL? Dunno.

 

Because I have an SL bucket list, I made Fauve get a sales/CSR  real $L paying job for a month one time and it paid 10k per month “plus extras”. I worked 1-2hrs per day 4 days per week and then attended some parties with clients on weekends, ‘as I wished to’. 
Perks were over $L30k in company merch, some live one-on-one graphic design lessons on Discord, a completely new mesh avatar  (Freya/Lelutka) and 2 work ‘uniforms’ kitted out to the owner’s expensive Italian tastes (dress and bathing suit). I wrote notecards, sailed the Blake in beautiful boats wearing a sexy avatar with a white one-piece bathing suit, heels and stockings and sold a decent amount of those pretty boats. 👸🏼
Maybe some other people who have/have had paying jobs can tell you their experiences and wages? Not sure if mine are average/low/good because I only ever had the one job.

edit: I have also heard that in many cases the ‘x hours per week’ often turns into more than advertised (and the pay is not) on many jobs when it comes down to it. 

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23 minutes ago, Gatogateau said:

I'm just picturing all of us who have been in SL more than, what? five years? sitting around discussing our newest SL venture capital hijinks. I think Showtime's Billions is actually about us SL moguls and not Wall Street. 

money just walked in.gif

If only it were that easy!  I'd love to hear from anyone who pulls in anywhere close to that amount of money in SL but I'm sure they're too busy amassing millions of Ls and laughing at the rest of us.  I do know someone who has a furniture store but it's been around for 10 yrs I think.  He did say he's making more in the last few years than he does at his RL job but that didn't happen overnight either.  Plus, there was the initial investment for animations, a store, advertising.  

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1 hour ago, Fauve Aeon said:

Company name removed as per the forum rules. It’s been judged as ‘very low pay’ by at least one blogger but 10k per month for a couple of hours a day is from what I gather, not bad.

My one and only "regular job" in SL wherein I was hired by someone else was as a stripper oh about 14 years ago.  I made the equivalent of about $40.00 U.S. dollars average per month in tips.  So, that would be about $80-90 U.S. dollars today, I'd guess or thereabouts per inflation; however, I am not sure what the average SL stripper makes in today's SL.  It bought me a nice SL home and wardrobe plus money to spend on tipping at other parties I would go to.  

But, for 500K, a possible idea is to find or put an add for a talent and back them and then try to take the company to be one of the big/biggest brands in SL.  This would require an investment in that talent and a wait for a payout plus putting up advertising money upfront, cost for materials, etc.  

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33 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:

I made the equivalent of about $40.00 U.S. dollars average per month in tips

How many hours per month did you work? Now I’m really curious to see more actual job experiences and wages vs what is advertised. I gather you made 80-90% of your tips and then your club took a portion? Or not? 

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