Tarina Sewell 1,845 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Well, first I would look at my history on my login screen, I would of course then contact sender and asked if it was supposed to go to me... If I won some grand contest you know... But honesty is likely the best policy as I believe in karma.. so.. Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Hexem 2,854 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Contact LL as it's probably money laundering. And sit on it and hope they green light me to keep it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Maryanne Solo 1,889 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Erm... what 20KL 👀? I have no idea what you're talking about. 🤑 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Maitimo 11,687 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Definitely contact support and definitely NOT send it back... because then that money is nicely "laundered". But I would not spend it until given the all-clear by Linden Lab. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Garnet Psaltery 7,753 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6 hours ago, ballparkdogg said: Passing linden back and forth and calling it money laundering I described an event that happened to me, where I was on the fringe of an actual case of money laundering. You describing it in that way is baffling, to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites
PermaRuthed 1,406 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1. Start singing: 2. Transfer the money to a secret alt and kill off the main avatar account. 3. Enjoy retirement on a tropical island. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bree Giffen 2,875 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I think if you were to receive 20,,000 lindens suddenly, you could log out immediately and not log in until after the transaction reporting has expired. On returning, if you still have the lindens you could plausibly deny that you knew the source. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Arduenn Schwartzman 2,573 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 We're talking about eighty bucks. What failed criminal is laundering eighty bucks? And how are they actually benefiting from it? 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Arduenn Schwartzman 2,573 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bree Giffen said: On returning, if you still have the lindens you could plausibly deny that you knew the source. Better not be premium then, or you'd have to stay out of SL for three months. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Garnet Psaltery 7,753 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Arduenn Schwartzman said: We're talking about eighty bucks. What failed criminal is laundering eighty bucks? And how are they actually benefiting from it? That's only one transaction. Criminals may spread their loot over many accounts, in the hope of retrieving it via accounts they own or those owned by others whom they control. Link to post Share on other sites
Nick0678 2,195 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Go and play those L$20k's on a skill game, worst case scenario you will lose them, otherwise you will multiply them and returning 80 dollars back won't bother you at all. Â Â Link to post Share on other sites
Lewis Luminos 2,305 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Arduenn Schwartzman said: We're talking about eighty bucks. What failed criminal is laundering eighty bucks? And how are they actually benefiting from it? Having worked for a couple of decades in the finance and insurance industry, I can answer this. These small transactions on stolen cards are usually testers, to see how closely the card owner is paying attention to their monthly statements. Often it's not even a stolen card, just a cloned or stolen number, so the genuine card owner may not even be aware that their card has been compromised. So the criminals make a small purchase on a throwaway account with a barely-known company like this and if the card owner doesn't notice and challenge the transaction with their bank, then they move on to bigger and more useful transfers. So if I received a large payment, you can bet that I'll AR it and wait for Linden Lab to claim the money back like they did with Garnet (because Linden Lab will need to refund that money back to the stolen card). Although having read some of the posts here, I think now I would prefer to submit a support ticket first, and let them tell me if an AR is more appropriate. I would also anticipate that my own account would be placed on "administrative hold" until it was resolved; after all, Linden Lab wouldn't want to risk me going off and spending that money until they've established whether it's legit or not. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Tarina Sewell 1,845 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FairreLilette 3,883 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) I don't know how someone could accidentally send me 20K lindens in the first place....? If I were working, I'd guess so in that they are typing in an amount but with accidentally adding 0's.  I'd probably think it was a legitimate tip because there are rich in SL...I've met some or so they say. But, then the OP is eluding to the fact that I know it's accidental, so the sender must be IMing me then. If I hadn't read this thread, I would have just sent the tip back. I do recall once being at a club and the hostess thanking a guest so much and saying "that is the biggest tip I ever got!" I wonder how much she got? I was thinking probably about 2K but I have no idea.  But, again, if I never read this thread, I would have just sent it back. Money laundering would have never occurred to me. What would occur to me is that someone accidentally sent me a high sum of money and wants it back so I would have sent it back.  Edited October 1, 2020 by FairreLilette 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ballparkdogg 216 Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 12:10 AM, PermaRuthed said: 1. Start singing: 2. Transfer the money to a secret alt and kill off the main avatar account. 3. Enjoy retirement on a tropical island. The game is afoot, Dr Watson Link to post Share on other sites
Kytteh Wytchwood 175 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I would contact the person and thank them for sending me the money and then asking why it was done. If they explain it was a mistake, I'd pay the entire amount back to them. I've had people accidentally send me more than they meant to or sent to me instead of someone else. I've always returned it when asked. I don't know about money laundering in SL and even what it is, confuses me. I've only heard about it in movies or read about it, from real life of big businesses doing it. I wouldn't have known to contact support over it. I'm glad I opened this post and learned something new. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
examining 34 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 If it will be only once, it's about 83 usd approx, I believe. It's not about a huge amount of money. I think that money laundering needs more than that. Often in RL Ι wonder what would I do if I'd found some wallet with a big amount of money. I always focus in eventual dangers that might arise for me, and then I consider the possibility that the owner perhaps really needed and could not replace this money. But I do not think -speaking to myself- that I would willingly return it or give it away. I only try to dream a situation where I might take advantage of my luck without being in danger or harm the owner of the "treasure".  Link to post Share on other sites
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