Parcel script lag and settings?

[Athyssa Seafarer]

The parcel I live on has been running ragged for the past several weeks. I'm not sure why, but I started tracking Script memory and active scripts as well as changes to the parcel. I have not found the information needed for the "normal" statistics for a parcel. I do not know what is an acceptable rate and now asking " What is an acceptable reading for a parcel, where there isn't much Lag or Script memory usage?" I decided to revamp the parcel since it's near Halloween and redecorate.

I know enough, to remove scripts from landscape items, scripts and boxes from items rezzed and set up. I've combed the parcel checked trees, rocks, grass, bushes an removed scripts from the decor for Halloween but it seems the lag is just constant. I takes a bit of time to rezz in clothing, hair, buildings... well just about everything.

Script usage is at 20468 which seems quite high for what I've recently done...

What should the parcel be sitting at to run relatively normal without long rezz times?

I've included the information from my statistics bar upper and lower, with script run time.

 

 Any help is appreciated! Thank you ♥

Alaintha

[Morena Tully]

That's the region stats, not parcel, and I'm not sure why scripts run is at 48%, it should be at or near 100%. That's your lag. But the "spare time" is a very healthy 15.9.. that's the buffer, and with that much spare time, I don't know why your scripts would be running at 48%.

Open your about land panel, and on the front page at the bottom, click script info. That will give your parcel usage. It should be between 5000 and 13000 or so for memory usage, and if you are the parcel owner you can see details for each active object. I can't explain why the other readings are off, maybe someone else can.

[Athyssa Seafarer]

4 minutes ago, Morena Tully said:

That's the region stats, not parcel, and I'm not sure why scripts run is at 48%, it should be at or near 100%. That's your lag. But the "spare time" is a very healthy 15.9.. that's the buffer, and with that much spare time, I don't know why your scripts would be running at 48%.

Open your about land panel, and on the front page at the bottom, click script info. That will give your parcel usage. It should be between 5000 and 13000 or so for memory usage, and if you are the parcel owner you can see details for each active object. I can't explain why the other readings are off, maybe someone else can.

Thank you Morena. The parcel script usage is Script usage is at 20468. This seems to me to be very high after removing everything. So few things on the parcel at this time. I appreciate you answering though!

[Morena Tully]

yes, that's really high usage, if an alt owns it, log the alt on so you can see where the heaviest usage is from. That's more than double of any parcel I've ever had.

[Nika Talaj]

I haven't been following SL performance threads for a couple years, but it always used to be the case that script memory & execution issues had no relationship to slow rezz times.   Total available script memory is capped by the region allocation, and the same thing with the cycles made available for scripts to run.  Thus, running out of script resources will only slow down scripts, not slow your rez time.  You may see things like a texture-flipping picture frame slow down, and your couples dance ball refuse to rez dance balls, and your mesh body HUD not make changes you request.  But your personal rez times should not be affected.

Slow rez has always been more an issue with use of very large textures, low-LI items which nevertheless have a huge number of vertices, and the like.  Are your rez times still slow when you take your graphics settings very low (say, DD at 80, LOD at 1.5, show friends only, etc)?  It can also an issue with low available memory or CPU on your PC, depending on your graphics hardware.

That said, 20K is high.  I have a parcel that is at about that, and while I need to whack it down (haven't removed any furniture or landscaping scripts), I don't have slow rez there.

(I don't have time to look over your stats panels now, but may return later, thanks for posting them)

[Athyssa Seafarer]

I've gone over the list of all items on the parcel, I only know of 1 that is highly scripted, but it certainly isn't causing the usage listed. I'm at a loss of what else to do, except to strip the parcel again and start over, noting each item. Thank you again Morena!

[Fritigern Gothly]

Perhaps it would be a good idea to file a ticket and request a Linden to come have a look at the region as a whole. They have more and better tools at their disposal to find out what is going on and what is causing it.

[Athyssa Seafarer]

Thank you Nika, I agree that it is high for what is out at the moment. Having been to some of the FS Classes to understand lag of different sorts, I do not know why it is taking so long to rez things in. Either on my PC or my friends, my partner on his machine either... it seems strange.

Unless I am taking pictures of something, my PC runs at a low setting, low DD and LOD low as well. In busy areas, yes, the setting is switched to "Friends Only" too... I'm at a loss.

Thank you again for taking the time to offer your suggestions and ideas! ♥

[Athyssa Seafarer]

2 minutes ago, Fritigern Gothly said:

Perhaps it would be a good idea to file a ticket and request a Linden to come have a look at the region as a whole. They have more and better tools at their disposal to find out what is going on and what is causing it.

I certainly will after reading these ideas and suggestions. With everything removed but a few items.... 20468 is coming from somewhere

Thank you for the idea Fritigern!

[Morena Tully]

Ohhhh your packet loss is HUGE and that's usually an ISP issue. If I get up to 2%, it's awful, and you're at 30%! I didn't see that before, but that's definitely a root of the problem. Try restarting your router for starters, if that doesn't help, there's sometimes things you can do, other times, it's out of your hands.

[Nika Talaj]

31% packet loss is INCREDIBLY HIGH.  I notice degraded performance at around 4%. 

I wouldn't file a ticket until I get that under control!  Try a speedtest and see if your basic networking is much slower than what you're paying for. 

Then as Morena suggests, turn the power off to your router, then wait 15 minutes and bring it up again.  Then do another speedtest and see if things improve.

If the router power cycle doesn't help, a call to your service provider might be in order.

Edited September 27, 2020 by Nika Talaj

[Quartz Mole]

Yes, the suggestions so far look spot on to me -- cycle the router to see if that fixes any connection issues, and if it's not the connection, then file a ticket and have one of LL's specialists take a look.

Edited September 27, 2020 by Quartz Mole

[Athyssa Seafarer]

I neglected to look at that portion and called my son to check the connection. Any test he did pulled a less than 64ms response. Apparently the connection is with the SL server now. The house here is hard wired, but the "tier" in the US is less than than the broadband in Europe. Unless I acquire a T-1 line or fiber optics for this area, I am not going to get the connectivity I need for SL.

 

 I appreciate ALL the recomendations and ideas for the solution. Contacting CHarter or Spectrum for ISP help isn't going to get me anywhere.

THANK YOUI all for the help! ♥♥♥

[Nika Talaj]

Fiber, are you sure?  I hear that Spectrum sucks, but I'm on a wireless LAN to a DSL line from CenturyLink, which also sucks.  Just now I'm using a PC with a 116ms ping time to Virginia, and 12Mbps download speed.  All of which is MUCH MUCH MUCH slower than fiber optics.  And I don't experience huge lag in SL on this setup.

I don't know a lot of folks with fiber to their home, it ain't cheap.  I think it might be best to think of the US as a country which is part 1st world, part 3rd world nowadays, lol.  But in no way is fiber necessary to use SL (tho it might help your son with any more demanding fps games he might be using??).

Is 'ping time' what your son was measuring?  If so, 64ms is not terrific, but it's not what's giving you the dropped packets.  Try doing a speedtest instead.

https://www.speedtest.net/

 

 

[Quartz Mole]

37 minutes ago, Alaintha Loring said:

I neglected to look at that portion and called my son to check the connection. Any test he did pulled a less than 64ms response. Apparently the connection is with the SL server now. The house here is hard wired, but the "tier" in the US is less than than the broadband in Europe. Unless I acquire a T-1 line or fiber optics for this area, I am not going to get the connectivity I need for SL.

 

 I appreciate ALL the recomendations and ideas for the solution. Contacting CHarter or Spectrum for ISP help isn't going to get me anywhere.

THANK YOUI all for the help! ♥♥♥

Please try rebooting your router anyway, since that will force a whole new set of connections to SL, which might solve the problem, and if it doesn't, then it really is a case for support -- LDPW want you to be able to enjoy your Linden Home, and if it's a server-side issue, the technical Lindens  need to investigate problems on one of our regions so they can fix it.

 

[Athyssa Seafarer]

I completely removed everything from our land and with the house, platform for work and a few landscape items the Script usage is a little over 3k now to slowly add things and find out what item is giving me the trouble.

Thank you all for your help!

Alaintha

Edited September 28, 2020 by Alaintha Loring
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