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Since everyone else can answer, I shall too. Yes, OP, you advertise, constantly, knowingly, while pretending it's not. I mean it's not hard for even the most English language challenged to see, i

Do you truly not see the absolute logic fail here?  

Because she isn't talking about her experiences as an escort.  It's the constant "I'm an escort" dropped into pretty much EVERYTHING.  Thread about renting a skybox - "I'm an escort".  Thread about Al

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12 minutes ago, Lindal Kidd said:

Actually, yes.

If you just hit ENTER, it double spaces the next line, as it did after "Actually, yes."
But if you hit CTRL+ENTER, it single spaces the lines.

Not working. I must be doing something wrong!!!

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Sorry, I was experimenting with line spacing!!! Doesn't work well on a chromebook apparently!!!!

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I feel so much better now that I don't have to explain myself!!!! The sig say's it all. Some might think it's advertising though. so I will be chastised no matter what.

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1 hour ago, Bagnu said:

I feel so much better now that I don't have to explain myself!!!! The sig say's it all. Some might think it's advertising though. so I will be chastised no matter what.

Plus, people can have signatures OFF.  My setting has always been set to OFF for signatures.

So, I don't even know what most people have in their signatures.

Just thought I'd let you know that sigs can be off.  

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6 hours ago, Nika Talaj said:

I don't see anything terribly wrong with this, unless it happens often.  

It did happen more than once, but I don't and didn't feel strongly enough about it to scour through catching them all. I'm not a stalker. I got this screenshot after seeing an earlier denial of under-the-radar advertising through the forums and thinking, "But hang on, I've seen you doing just that. The last time was literally the other day...oh yeah, here it is." 

I find the endless repetition boring, but that's my problem and not what bothers me. I understand that people have things that define them in SL and it doesn't matter if I'm not interested; there are other posters who like to talk frequently about what they do inworld. In this particular instance, though, it seems there is barely a single post that doesn't serve to promote the service, mention it even when it isn't relevant, tell us about the business name change, inform us about who does it the "real" way (?) and even explicitly offer it to people who were seeking a relationship that doesn't involve money changing hands. Sig line is kind of irrelevant after this volume of such content. But a sig line wouldn't bother me. That's explicitly allowed. 

As ever, it's a mod issue, so if they don't think anything is amiss then I obviously have to accept that. And like I said, I'm not going to get into a flame war or scour old posts over it. But if there's going to be a thread started to deny that it's happening, I feel justified in responding as to why I truly think it is. Presumably I'm not the only one, or there wouldn't be any need to start the thread in the first place.

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12 hours ago, Bagnu said:

I want to make it clear that I am NOT in the forums to solicit. I do that inworld. If I want some sort of employment, I'll post it in the appropriate area here. I have no desire to break the forum rules. I have nothing to gain by that. It would be fully a waste of my time to try and solicit here!!!

*looks at profile*

Ah, so you're a prostitute!

And you don't do Skype or Voice!

Say. No. More!

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4 hours ago, FairreLilette said:

Plus, people can have signatures OFF.  My setting has always been set to OFF for signatures.

So, I don't even know what most people have in their signatures.

Just thought I'd let you know that sigs can be off.  

My signature is great, and you're missing it.  All that creative energy for nothing.  Bah!

Still, I put my best creative energy into my side-lines, and as far as I know you are still all getting my melodrama.

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4 hours ago, Arduenn Schwartzman said:

*looks at profile*

Ah, so you're a prostitute!

And you don't do Skype or Voice!

Say. No. More!

Not a prostitute an 'escort' there 'is' a difference.

And not all escorts do cam or voice or have to either because some males think they need to because they are an arrogant ignorant delusional homophobic narcissistic chauvinistic egotistical pig.

that if they refuse that it must mean they have to be a male and not a female if it was a female escort that was being paid for.

what an escort does within the time being paid for is his/her choice, not entirely up to the patron.

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6 hours ago, Arduenn Schwartzman said:

And you don't do Skype or Voice!

I've had guys just ask me this before even a first date and this is not my first time in SL.  I've been around since it's inception, on and off for 17 years with perhaps about six to seven years in total for on SL.  However, my other times here were purely social and not for building at all.  This time I have been building almost exclusively but have had the most fun I must say being a Dinkie and hanging out with the tinies when I did finally begin to socialize this third time and I don't want any partner or cybersex period.  So, this third SL social life of mine is with the Dinkies and Tinies.  Cybersex is boring after you do it a few times, and I don't like people copying and pasting stupid emotes that sound like they come from a romance novel I would never ever read.   I do allow one friend to have my avatar when I go to bed at night sleeping for the AFK thing and I am not paid.  I have adult female avatars too.  

 

1 hour ago, Drakonadrgora Darkfold said:

And not all escorts do cam or voice or have to either because some males think they need to because they are an arrogant ignorant delusional homophobic narcissistic chauvinistic egotistical pig.

When I was here in SL having a purely social Second Life, guys excepted you to voice or cam before a first date as a free girl.  I can see if one is getting paid, guys would expect more than just what they can have with any avatar and/or emoting.   I've seen the posters of the escorts that do cam and voice.  I'm sure they make pretty darn good money because it's not just emoting for example, which is lame in my opinion.   And, not only lame, a complete turn off.  That emoting thing turns me off; it's worse than a bad romance novel which I read a few of when I was teen.   

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1 minute ago, FairreLilette said:

I've had guys just ask me this before even a first date and this is not my first time in SL.  I've been around since it's inception, on and off for 17 years with perhaps about six to seven years in total for on SL.  However, my other times here were purely social and not for building at all.  This time I have been building almost exclusively but have had the most fun I must say being a Dinkie and hanging out with the tinies when I did finally begin to socialize this third time and I don't want any partner or cybersex period.  So, this third SL social life of mine is with the Dinkies and Tinies.  Cybersex is boring after you do it a few times, and I don't like people copying and pasting stupid emotes that sound like they come from a romance novel I would never ever read.   I do allow one friend to have my avatar when I go to bed at night sleeping for the AFK thing and I am not paid.  

 

When I was here in SL having a purely social Second Life, guys excepted you to voice or cam before a first date as a free girl.  I can see if one is getting paid, guys would expect more than just what they can have with any avatar and/or emoting.   I've seen the posters of the escorts that do cam and voice.  I'm sure they make pretty darn good money because it's not just emoting for example, which is lame in my opinion.  

Yes a lot of people assume that they 'have' to cam or voice to prove they are female but they dont it really is their choice if they do that or not and not the patrons ever. those that try and demand it are just insecure and trying to be domineering or forceful looking for the gullible ones that will just comply in order to get the pay. Some people here have a little more self worth than just capitulating to such people.

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5 minutes ago, Drakonadrgora Darkfold said:

Yes a lot of people assume that they 'have' to cam or voice to prove they are female but they dont it really is their choice if they do that or not and not the patrons ever. those that try and demand it are just insecure and trying to be domineering or forceful looking for the gullible ones that will just comply in order to get the pay. Some people here have a little more self worth than just capitulating to such people.

Well, I further wrote emoting is a turn-off for me.  It's worse than a bad romance novel I read as a teenager.  No.  

If I were a guy paying, I'd go for the voice and the cam and get a real girl off of SL.  Emoting can rest in peace forever imo.  

Back when I was on SL for purely a social life, we used the telephone and I voiced a bit.  

Also, I don't see that as homophobic.  If the guy is heterosexual, he wants what he wants, a real female.  There is nothing wrong with being heterosexual and seeking what you want same as for same-sex attracted.  

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9 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:

Well, I further wrote emoting is a turn-off for me.  It's worse than a bad romance novel I read as a teenager.  No.  

If I were a guy paying, I'd go for the voice and the cam and get a real girl off of SL.  Emoting can rest in peace forever imo.  

Back when I was on SL for purely a social life, we used the telephone and I voiced a bit.  

That was you and your choice, but not everyone has to do as you did. Or as their patron trys to command or demand. thats not really how escorting works.

It is being homophobic because he is afraid of accidentally being with a male and then being embarrassed or shamed for doing so. they are seeking rl information when its just about sl and not rl. because they are not really having sex with the rl person to begin with and likely never well.

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37 minutes ago, Drakonadrgora Darkfold said:

That was you and your choice, but not everyone has to do as you did. Or as their patron trys to command or demand. thats not really how escorting works.

It is being homophobic because he is afraid of accidentally being with a male and then being embarrassed or shamed for doing so. they are seeking rl information when its just about sl and not rl. because they are not really having sex with the rl person to begin with and likely never well.

No, it's not always the escorts choice.   There are many places that say LIVE girls...CAM/VOICE, in their advertising.  So, no, it's not an escorts choice as they work for an establishment that offers girls with CAM/VOICE.

I think you can see Arduen's surprise that she doesn't CAM/VOICE/SKYPE because most do and that is in their advertising - it is what they offer.  

However, I think you want SL only your way - the fantasy with typing.  Some people don't want to do the fantasy and typing thing and they want what they want.  

It's their dime, their time.  Hetero men can get females on here and even bi-sexual females too I'm quite sure.   Some even meet in real life too which is not something I'd do.  I am not here to meet people to be in my real life.  

Not all people play SL the fantasy way like that is the only way.  SL is very varied.  

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18 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:

No, it's not always the escorts choice.   There are many places that say LIVE girls...CAM/VOICE, in their advertising.  So, no, it's not an escorts choice as they work for an establishment that offers girls with CAM/VOICE.

I think you can see Arduen's surprise that she doesn't CAM/VOICE/SKYPE because most do and that is in their advertising - it is what they offer.  

However, I think you want SL only your way - the fantasy with typing.  Some people don't want to do the fantasy and typing thing and they want what they want.  

It's their dime, their time.  Hetero men can get females on here and even bi-sexual females too I'm quite sure.   Some even meet in real life too which is not something I'd do.  I am not here to meet people to be in my real life.  

Not all people play SL the fantasy way like that is the only way.  SL is very varied.  

Yes it is still their choice always. they dont have to do what is said if they dont feel comfortable. Even if they work for a place that says its offered. It is still always their choice. nothing can be forced upon a person ever against their will.

Just because it may be offered does not mean everyone there has to do it or is required too or can be forced too by any patron. That is you thinking that sl has to be your way. which is not how it works either. 

Everyone has the right to refuse anything from anyone that they request or ask for at any point in time in sl regardless of where they work or what they label themselves as.

No one just has to comply or agree or consent to anything about anything ever.

Most sl escorts will never ever meet anyone from here in rl. They dont have any desire too. Or else they would work for a rl escort service that would set them up with rl meets.

doesnt matter if its their dime or time they are not in total control as much as they might want to think they are. most males that would try and force an rl escort to do something against their desires would probably be told to never return or be lucky if they didnt get their legs broken for them. same goes true for here in sl. but in this case its being banned from the sim and blocked by the escort if found objectionable enough.

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15 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:

I think you can see Arduen's surprise that she doesn't CAM/VOICE/SKYPE because most do and that is in their advertising - it is what they offer.  

I may be reading it wrong but I don't think Arduenn was surprised at all. Either way, it was funny.

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16 hours ago, Amina Sopwith said:

I don't believe I've attacked Bagnu at any point; one or two slightly pithy comments in context but that's it. My comments in this thread are the strongest I've ever made. Like I said, I've generally just not said anything because it wasn't worth a bunfight. I thought about just staying out of this one too. Perhaps I should have, but it's done now.

I actually haven't seen anyone else commenting on it outside of one particular thread from a week or so ago. But Bagnu, if so many people think you're trying to use the forums to drum up business that you feel a need to start a thread denying it, then maybe you should consider that it really might look that way, and try another approach.

I added a signature, which I didn't know how to do before. I'm confused though. No one complains if someone has a link to their business in their signature, but I offend people by discussing what I know and am comfortable with? I do understand some may be uncomfortable with my profession, and that's fair. But I would rather be chastised for something I do, rather than than something I truly never meant to do!!!

This actually reminds me of the first thread I replied to, where the OP was questioning if girls standing around were hookers or not. In this case advertising or not. I have to say the same thing here. When we are advertising or soliciting we make it very clear. And it would likely take years to get a single client from the forums. This is simply not a good place to advertise or solicit. Most people in SL don't even know the forums exist.

In the end I'm me. Not everyone has to like or agree with me.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Drakonadrgora Darkfold said:

Yes it is still their choice always. they dont have to do what is said if they dont feel comfortable. Even if they work for a place that says its offered. It is still always their choice. nothing can be forced upon a person ever against their will.

Just because it may be offered does not mean everyone there has to do it or is required too or can be forced too by any patron. That is you thinking that sl has to be your way. which is not how it works either. 

If it's their choice, that's false advertising and they should not work for an establishment but rather be independent and then it's their choice.  If you work a job in real life, it's not your choice to sew for three hours a day your own personal dress; you'd be fired.

What you are suggesting is false advertising.  

Plus, I'm speaking about the girls who put up Ad Boards for their services and in the Ad Board it says CAM/SKYPE or whatever.  If they then refuse to do that but except money or to make "a choice" they are just playing games with people.  

I had two small clubs in SL for Dinkies and Tinies (pre coronavirus, now shut because of coronavirus) and I was searching out Ad Boards for my clubs and I saw the adverts.  It says on their advert CAM/SKYPE.  

I still think you want SL only one way - your way, the fantasy and typing way but that's not how it is.  SL is very varied.  

Though I can see, with coronavirus, the absence of the human voice.  I am missing a real person to talk with our voices not typing in these lock down times.  

If I was going to have a real relationship on SL, we'd need to have telephone too as I have all women mostly in my life and I need a man to talk too.  I have no men in my life currently, it's all women.  

If you don't believe me, search out places with Ad Boards and go see what escorts are advertising yourself.  

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20 hours ago, Bagnu said:

I want to make it clear that I am NOT in the forums to solicit. I do that inworld. If I want some sort of employment, I'll post it in the appropriate area here. I have no desire to break the forum rules. I have nothing to gain by that. It would be fully a waste of my time to try and solicit here!!!

Desperate cry for attention is not an ad! 

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