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On 7/8/2020 at 10:51 PM, Zidaya Zenovka said:

This whole 'sl isn't rl' thing is more  farce than fallacy. No. It's not. SL isn't a game it's a glorified chat interface.

It all depends on the person involved, so on the one hand the SL is separate people need to be considerate of the fact that others may take things much more personal than they do. But st the same time the Sl is the same people need to understand they are running the risk of being hurt by those who approach this differently. For me the two are separate, but I am always aware that not everyone is going to approach it the same. It seems a lot of people on both sides of the debate expect everyone to be just like they are instead of being open to other people's views. Sl is what each person makes it, we all need to be aware that the other person is indeed another person and they may not be here for the same reasons we are.

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Hook up with him, then when he gets started put on a freenis and click “swap”.

It is so upsetting to see some in SL be so rude and downright scary. I had to spend a bit of time calming a good friend down after her Escorting session turned unpleasant, and her client started to pu

I’m glad you were there for your friend to support her. And I guess it makes me antisocial, but I have a zero tolerance policy for putting up with people in a SL who desire to treat me crummy or

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On 7/9/2020 at 8:25 PM, Silent Mistwalker said:

I wish that were true in all cases. It isn't. For some of us being friendless makes us that much more vulnerable.  Think about that for a bit. Think about the desire to have friends and how vulnerable that can make someone who has none.

This is correct. Wise statement.

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No matter how much one treats Second Life as being separate from 'real life' you're still communicating with your fellow human beings. No matter how much of your interaction is roleplay there's still a human being typing at you. If your roleplay gets intense enough and you're not being responsible enough about it you can very much hurt others. Just because 'it's not real' doesn't mean negative interactions can't have a harmful effect on someone's psyche. This is why every D&D group I've been in has had a 'session 0' game where before the actual game begins we discuss our boundaries and expectations. That way no matter how intense things get if people aren't comfortable with certain topics or kinds of interaction there's far less chance of them happening. 

So while it's fine for everyone to be here for different reasons if those reasons involve behaving in a toxic way towards others using 'SL and RL are separate' as an excuse isn't one. It's not about people taking things too personally. It's about 'some people just take things too personally' not being a valid abdication of your responsibility towards others to behave like a decent human being...even if you aren't one. 

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3 hours ago, Arduenn Schwartzman said:

Can we move all this hooker talk to the adult section?

People unfamiliar with SL who stumble upon this forum might get the impression that SL is all about sex.

I don't think newbies ever needed the forum to come to this conclusion. Do most newbies even find the forum?

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50 minutes ago, Syo Emerald said:

I don't think newbies ever needed the forum to come to this conclusion. Do most newbies even find the forum?

Yeh I found this forum via googling a lot of the "how to" questions I had.

All this escorting and Jenna Jameson stuff do belong more in the adult section.

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4 hours ago, Arduenn Schwartzman said:

Can we move all this hooker talk to the adult section?

People unfamiliar with SL who stumble upon this forum might get the impression that SL is all about sex.

Most people who come to sl already know about all or most of the sexual depravity here in sl. so would not be shocked to see it talked about on the forums no matter where it was placed. they can learn about it from places like Instagram or YouTube.

slsex is a big reason why a lot of people come here.

sl is afterall an adult service and not meant for children or young teens.

You can always just use ignore on anyone that you dont like what they post if it bothers you that much.

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1 hour ago, Syo Emerald said:

I don't think newbies ever needed the forum to come to this conclusion. Do most newbies even find the forum?

not while they are still a newbie. usually after their cherry has already been popped by someone inworld either by greifing or some other issue do they come here looking for answers or to complain.

I think there should be a test to join sl that requires you to come to the forums and find a certain post and answer a question about what was said in it before you can join or log into the world. to make sure everyone knows the forums exist and how to search out information on them.

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13 minutes ago, Drakonadrgora Darkfold said:

....should be a test to join sl ......

But that would surely take all the fun out of, "I wonder what this button does....?", wouldn't it?

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7 minutes ago, Odaks said:

But that would surely take all the fun out of, "I wonder what this button does....?", wouldn't it?

not really. for some that 'fun' is why they dont stay and end up leaving after being frustrated.

people really should rtfm on the viewer they are using and then learn more about how to interact and do things here in sl before just jumping in.

but oh wait that is common sense.. which is a very rare commodity these days.

only fools jump into things without doing research first to make the experience safer and more enjoyable.

not everyone likes to hit their head against the wall while trying to learn something new.

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On 7/9/2020 at 9:05 PM, Madelaine McMasters said:

You're right Silent, let me rephrase.

Only the friendless can be invulnerable here.

Hugs.

 

and a rock can feel no pain, and an island never cries.

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55 minutes ago, Drakonadrgora Darkfold said:

are you sure that rock feels no pain.. im pretty sure 'the rock' does feel pain

are you sure an island never cries.. im pretty sure it does rain over many islands and they might have waterfalls on them.

 

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guessing you knew this....

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On 7/9/2020 at 8:25 PM, Silent Mistwalker said:

I wish that were true in all cases. It isn't. For some of us being friendless makes us that much more vulnerable.  Think about that for a bit. Think about the desire to have friends and how vulnerable that can make someone who has none.

I know I'm not the only one who is commenting upon this ^^^ but I just wanted to say thanks to something I kinda "felt" but couldn't articulate. I think, the friendless are safer from the hurts (regardless of how they use SL vs RL) IF they wish to remain friendless and act accordingly. But I know there are people like me who maybe have been around for many years and the people they used to hang around with in SL are gone. Or new people coming to SL without RL friends joining too. And maybe any of those people are lonely in RL too, for whatever reason. Especially if they are RL lonely, the possibility to be hurt by jerks in SL is all the higher.

I'm rambling, and this is rather a side tangent to the OP's story of a friend's idiot client.  

Rather than concentrate on who might be most vulnerable to SL emotional hurt, I think we should all remember that we have NO IDEA what anyone online is going through on the other side of the monitor, and treat everyone with kindness and respect (until proven they do not deserve that treatment). Sadly, the people who need that lesson or reminder are the sorts that would never listen.

PS: And **** yeah, keep the money. :)

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14 hours ago, Seicher Rae said:

I know I'm not the only one who is commenting upon this ^^^ but I just wanted to say thanks to something I kinda "felt" but couldn't articulate. I think, the friendless are safer from the hurts (regardless of how they use SL vs RL) IF they wish to remain friendless and act accordingly. But I know there are people like me who maybe have been around for many years and the people they used to hang around with in SL are gone. Or new people coming to SL without RL friends joining too. And maybe any of those people are lonely in RL too, for whatever reason. Especially if they are RL lonely, the possibility to be hurt by jerks in SL is all the higher.

I'm rambling, and this is rather a side tangent to the OP's story of a friend's idiot client.  

Rather than concentrate on who might be most vulnerable to SL emotional hurt, I think we should all remember that we have NO IDEA what anyone online is going through on the other side of the monitor, and treat everyone with kindness and respect (until proven they do not deserve that treatment). Sadly, the people who need that lesson or reminder are the sorts that would never listen.

PS: And **** yeah, keep the money. :)

some dont listen anymore or as much as some think they should at times because maybe they have been hurt one too many times and just dont feel like caring as much anymore so they cant be hurt as easily again..

there is only so much that some can take before it darkens their heart and fills it with pain and anger and disappointment with life or humanity or both. that its easier to be hurtful to others to keep them away then let them get close and maybe be hurt by them instead.

being open to letting people near or to be a friend takes a certain amount of being vulnerable but once you have been hurt enough that you had to armor coat your heart it becomes hard or impossible to let others get close again. they lack the ability to trust or believe that some are not as evil or as bad or mean or rude or hurtful or untrustworthy as the other people in their past was.

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9 hours ago, Drakonadrgora Darkfold said:

they lack the ability to trust or believe

We don't lack the ability. Obviously we had it to begin with. Those "other people" made it harder to gain our trust and made us far more leery of putting ourselves "out there". We still have the ability. It's just that life experiences have made it more difficult to place our trust in others and believe in the general goodness of humans.

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On 7/26/2020 at 10:18 AM, Seicher Rae said:

treat everyone with kindness and respect (until proven they do not deserve that treatment). 

I simply could not agree more!!!

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On 7/26/2020 at 9:18 AM, Seicher Rae said:

Rather than concentrate on who might be most vulnerable to SL emotional hurt, I think we should all remember that we have NO IDEA what anyone online is going through on the other side of the monitor, and treat everyone with kindness and respect (until proven they do not deserve that treatment).

^This

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On 7/9/2020 at 1:41 AM, Bagnu said:

It is so upsetting to see some in SL be so rude and downright scary. I had to spend a bit of time calming a good friend down after her Escorting session turned unpleasant, and her client started to push her. I found her sitting on a chair, and afraid to stand up. It took a lot of self control for me not to put on my Demoness outfit and turn my magic on to scare that guy. Of course, it would have been me who ended up banned, so helping my friend feel better was more important and the better option.

I have been mistreated as well, and it is a very unpleasant experience.

No patience for people who enjoy hurting others!!!

 

Maybe working for an agency would help preventing this.
Just sayin.

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3 hours ago, Caroline Takeda said:

Maybe working for an agency would help preventing this.
Just sayin.

🙂

She IM'd you a while ago about wanting to work for SLA media.

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14 hours ago, Bagnu said:

She IM'd you a while ago about wanting to work for SLA media.

Oh really?
Please send me the name by PM. I take care of it.

(Btw: Have you met Damien for your pics?)

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I love your enthusiasm and temper. 
People do not always percieve what you want to say or portray. Especially escortsing and advertising in a forum (for whatever) can get you easily in the line of fire.

Hence I  suggest: Tone it down a bit.
I know it is difficult to hide or tone down ones excitment about whatsoever. Bear in mind that not everybody is excited about what we do.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Caroline Takeda said:

Oh really?
Please send me the name by PM. I take care of it.

(Btw: Have you met Damien for your pics?)

Back to Topic:

I love your enthusiasm and temper. 
People do not always percieve what you want to say or portray. Especially escortsing and advertising in a forum (for whatever) can get you easily in the line of fire.

Hence I  suggest: Tone it down a bit.
I know it is difficult to hide or tone down ones excitment about whatsoever. Bear in mind that not everybody is excited about what we do.

 

 

 

Thank you! I am always open to suggestions, especially from someone such as yourself who understands our line of work.

P.s.: no pics yet

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