Bagnu 1,292 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 It is so upsetting to see some in SL be so rude and downright scary. I had to spend a bit of time calming a good friend down after her Escorting session turned unpleasant, and her client started to push her. I found her sitting on a chair, and afraid to stand up. It took a lot of self control for me not to put on my Demoness outfit and turn my magic on to scare that guy. Of course, it would have been me who ended up banned, so helping my friend feel better was more important and the better option. I have been mistreated as well, and it is a very unpleasant experience. No patience for people who enjoy hurting others!!! 4 1 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pixie Kobichenko 2,051 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 1 minute ago, Bagnu said: It is so upsetting to see some in SL be so rude and downright scary. I had to spend a bit of time calming a good friend down after her Escorting session turned unpleasant, and her client started to push her. I found her sitting on a chair, and afraid to stand up. It took a lot of self control for me not to put on my Demoness outfit and turn my magic on to scare that guy. Of course, it would have been me who ended up banned, so helping my friend feel better was more important and the better option. I have been mistreated as well, and it is a very unpleasant experience. No patience for people who enjoy hurting others!!! I’m glad you were there for your friend to support her. And I guess it makes me antisocial, but I have a zero tolerance policy for putting up with people in a SL who desire to treat me crummy or foist their shortcomings upon me. It is an amazing feature in SL that RLdoesnt have (or have easily). Just TP out & mute the creep. Zero reason & no, pennies worth of lindens for virtual sex or erotic emoting is not a valid reason (there is none) to put up with it. 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drakonadrgora Darkfold 1,402 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Bagnu said: It is so upsetting to see some in SL be so rude and downright scary. I had to spend a bit of time calming a good friend down after her Escorting session turned unpleasant, and her client started to push her. I found her sitting on a chair, and afraid to stand up. It took a lot of self control for me not to put on my Demoness outfit and turn my magic on to scare that guy. Of course, it would have been me who ended up banned, so helping my friend feel better was more important and the better option. I have been mistreated as well, and it is a very unpleasant experience. No patience for people who enjoy hurting others!!! Unfortunately sl draws those kinds of people because everything is believed to be 100% consensual and that the other person can just log out or tp away or walk away from the screen or block/mute the offensive person.. a lot of people do not believe you can be abused or hurt or harmed here in sl. that is all fake, all imagination, not real, no real harm, its all just a game, its all just a joke. that you are here for their personal enjoyment even if that means being a jerk or abusive or disrespectful or forceful..that you just have to allow it, go with it, flow with it, deal with it, accept it, tolerate it, agree to it, consent to it, excuse it, validate it, ok it. that you dont have any right to complain about it or what they do or say or how they act or behave. that its their right to be rude or crude or hurtful, that its their entitlement to act like a total horses arse. that they can use the excuse its their kink or fetish to be hurtful and that totally ok's it. and you cant shame them for it ever.. no kink shaming ya know. It happens often here in sl, almost on a daily basis to someone somewhere in sl. and then you have all the groups that cater to those kinds of people and feed in to their delusional beliefs that its ok to act and behave and treat people in such manners. Edited July 8 by Drakonadrgora Darkfold 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lyssa Greymoon 2,384 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 17 minutes ago, Bagnu said: It took a lot of self control for me not to put on my Demoness outfit and turn my magic on to scare that guy. Hook up with him, then when he gets started put on a freenis and click “swap”. 7 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bagnu 1,292 Posted July 9 Author Share Posted July 9 3 minutes ago, Lyssa Greymoon said: Hook up with him, then when he gets started put on a freenis and click “swap”. This guy could be RL unbalanced. That I stay away from. I'm not shy, and express my opinions. Creepy like that is best to stay away from. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick0678 1,248 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 3 minutes ago, Lyssa Greymoon said: Hook up with him, then when he gets started put on a freenis and click “swap”. Ahahaha i used to do that 10 years ago when i first joined sl and was with a woman together both SL and RL. We went as females to those public places, beaches etc and i also had a very fat guy outfit dressed in leather with a huge .. ready. The moment some random dude started having "sex" i changed to that outfit and swapped position. We cried laughing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick0678 1,248 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 5 minutes ago, Bagnu said: This guy could be RL unbalanced.... Well they are, no need to use "could". Just let it go, it's over and tell the manager to ban the account from the parcel, sim. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drakonadrgora Darkfold 1,402 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 9 minutes ago, Nick0678 said: Well they are, no need to use "could". Just let it go, it's over and tell the manager to ban the account from the parcel, sim. Agree with you totally on this. Those kinds of people should just be banned on site.. be disrespectful to the escort.. female or male.. and you dont deserve to ever be allowed back. No excuse, no validation for their behavior... Still though what was done should not be tolerated or acceptable either anywhere for any reason ever.. such narcissistic behaviors should not be tolerated by anyone. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bagnu 1,292 Posted July 9 Author Share Posted July 9 24 minutes ago, Drakonadrgora Darkfold said: they can use the excuse its their kink or fetish to be hurtful and that totally ok's it. and you cant shame them for it ever.. no kink shaming ya know. I agree with you totally!!! They should find a sim where that's acceptable i was involved in a 3 way last night, and I called my gf a *****, etc...(in multichat).But I made sure in our personal IM that she knew it was just for fun roleplay, and she had fun with it too. Our client loved it!!! Really though, I'm not sure they aren't RL disgusting!!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bagnu 1,292 Posted July 9 Author Share Posted July 9 I will send a message to the sim owner tonight 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zidaya Zenovka 68 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 It's unfortunate things like this happen. I'm sorry your friend had to deal with that. Even if you can mute/kick/ban, etc there's always a concern someone creepy enough will track you down via your sl account. Especially if you're like me and have one that's tied to your real-life identity (thanks, Facebook-NOT). The best you can do is talk to the sim owner and try to make sure they don't come back. I don't Erp in sl anymore but even with tame rp I tend to stick to people I know or to communities where I know creepy ***** is less likely to happen. Yeah it might not be as titillating as things were when I first got into sl but at least I've cut down the number of creeps I deal with to nearly nil. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick0678 1,248 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 (edited) @Drakonadrgora Darkfold Well we both know such people won't change and of course we don't have to change either. Whenever i had such issues in my regions between tenants, their guests, escorts or whatever i simply banned the person that was responsible for it, as long as there was proof based on Instant messages where it was clearly shown who was the abuser and that was the end of story. No refund of course. They either followed the rules, the region covenant and the rental agreement or they simply wasted their money because of their foolishness.. Simple as that. Respect is not an option, it's mandatory in some places like it or not. (not towards me i don't care about getting respect from anyone, but those who do care should be respected) Edited July 9 by Nick0678 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rushingaround 48 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Your not saying this in the posting but i assume she is getting paid for sex. Maybe he likes rough sex. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan Whitt 2,415 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 It was SL. Why didn't she just put a stop to it by giving the lindens back and logging out? It is just so much easier to leave and not put up with stuff we do not like in this platform. There are many times I can look back now and wish I had done that instead of putting up with abuse in SL, so maybe I get why she didn't. That being said, I am glad you were there to help her out. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bagnu 1,292 Posted July 9 Author Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, Jordan Whitt said: It was SL. Why didn't she just put a stop to it by giving the lindens back and logging out? It is just so much easier to leave and not put up with stuff we do not like in this platform. There are many times I can look back now and wish I had done that instead of putting up with abuse in SL, so maybe I get why she didn't. That being said, I am glad you were there to help her out. She got scared, and didn't know what to do. And I ALWAYS help my friends!!! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan Whitt 2,415 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, Bagnu said: She got scared, and didn't know what to do. And I ALWAYS help my friends!!! Hindsight has me wishing I had logged out or just left situations I have been in that made me feel scared or uncomfortable. So I get it, having been there myself. Help her see that leaving is always the better option. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lindal Kidd 17,353 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 (edited) Both @Jordan Whitt and @Bagnu have valid points in the posts immediately above this one. When I was new, I found myself in a very distasteful situation and was too scared and confused to remember what I should do (teleport, or log out.) But, you should counsel your friend and tell her to practice stepping back, out of immersion, when this stuff happens, and to have a set of options ready to do. One of those options should be, as Jordan says, to log off. But, unlike her, I would NOT return the money! That'll teach 'em. Edited July 9 by Lindal Kidd 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bagnu 1,292 Posted July 9 Author Share Posted July 9 22 minutes ago, Zidaya Zenovka said: It's unfortunate things like this happen. I'm sorry your friend had to deal with that. Even if you can mute/kick/ban, etc there's always a concern someone creepy enough will track you down via your sl account. Especially if you're like me and have one that's tied to your real-life identity (thanks, Facebook-NOT). The best you can do is talk to the sim owner and try to make sure they don't come back. I don't Erp in sl anymore but even with tame rp I tend to stick to people I know or to communities where I know creepy ***** is less likely to happen. Yeah it might not be as titillating as things were when I first got into sl but at least I've cut down the number of creeps I deal with to nearly nil. I agree. And as escorts it's not difficult to find us. We NEED to be found!!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan Whitt 2,415 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Just now, Lindal Kidd said: But, unlike her, I would NOT return the money! That'll teach 'em. I would only do that cos it's not worth the drama if he decided to make a song and dance about it. But it would teach him!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bagnu 1,292 Posted July 9 Author Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, Lindal Kidd said: Both @Jordan Whitt and @Bagnu have valid points in the posts immediately above this one. When I was new, I found myself in a very distasteful situation and was too scared and confused to remember what I should do (teleport, or log out.) But, you should counsel your friend and tell her to practice stepping back, out of immersion, when this stuff happens, and to have a set of options ready to do. One of those options should be, as Jordan says, to log off. But, unlike her, I would NOT return the money! That'll teach 'em. I Totally agree. It's hard to step back from the immersion at first though.That comes over time. I wouldn't return the money either when someone is abusive. We always do on crashes though. Prorated fairly. Escorting is a business transaction, and if we aren't honest, we won't have clients.It's just unbelievable to me that some can be abusive!!! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick0678 1,248 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 RULE #1 NEVER return the money. Regardless if you do it you have absolutely NO GUARANTEE that the person will stop and what kind of lunatic you are dealing with so keep them. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bagnu 1,292 Posted July 9 Author Share Posted July 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nick0678 said: RULE #1 NEVER return the money. Regardless if you do it you have absolutely NO GUARANTEE that the person will stop and what kind of lunatic you are dealing with so keep them. I will always return it from a crash. It's not fair otherwise!!! Abusive idiots....they lose there money.... Edited July 9 by Bagnu 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick0678 1,248 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Just now, Bagnu said: I will always return it from a crash. It's not fair otherwise!!! Crash is a different thing. Thats proper thing to do and good PR but in cases like this one money stays in the wallet. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rushingaround 48 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 This is going to happen when turning tricks. No offense she wasnt assaulted by some random guy on some random sim. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drakonadrgora Darkfold 1,402 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 18 minutes ago, rushingaround said: This is going to happen when turning tricks. No offense she wasnt assaulted by some random guy on some random sim. Doesn't make that kind of behavior acceptable or tolerable for any reason ever. It doesn't matter where it happened, or with who, its the fact that it happened at all. Which you seem to not understand. 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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