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i can relate to what Emma Espiner says here: https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300058729/the-myth-of-mori-exceptionalism

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A woman said to me at a dinner party recently, “Why can’t more Māori women be like you?” I tied myself up in knots for days afterwards trying to rationalise how an interesting conversation over the dessert course ended up there. Was it unconscious bias, the racist baggage of an older generation or just an excess of pinot noir?

I couldn’t understand the premise of the question because the Māori women I know are holding together our world – they’re my whānau, colleagues, the mums at my daughter’s school, the teachers, academics, artists and writers I most admire. On the other side of the dinner table was a stranger who wanted to know about the drugs, the child abuse and the criminals. She couldn’t piece together the component parts of our shared history, so she put her problem on my plate. I considered this woman as I licked raspberry coulis off the dessert fork and wondered if she thought I was a cannibal.

 

and this, MAPAS is an affirmative action programme

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A favourite target of Don Brash et al., MAPAS is the vehicle which, alongside its Otago University equivalent, has slowly built up the numbers of Māori and Pacific doctors so that we now comprise 3.5 per cent and 1.8 per cent of the medical workforce, respectively. This is the work of decades and it’s not nearly enough when you consider proportionality relative to the overall population and the immense need among our people. For a long time as a trainee doctor I felt inspired by media articles about the “firsts” among Māori in medicine until I realised that “first” was another way of saying “only”. I’ve had only two Māori clinical supervisors out of dozens during my clinical training and one of them I had to seek out myself for an elective placement. As a Māori medical student your opportunities to be mentored or supervised on placements by someone who can relate to your experience and the experience of your whānau are still vanishingly rare.

You have to be tough, to go through MAPAS. In the pre-application meeting they tell us that we’ll be questioned about our right to be at medical school and, later, about our right to practise as doctors. That above and beyond the baseline expectations of this gruelling six-year degree, we will face discrimination from our peers, teachers, patients and clinical supervisors. Gathered together in a lecture theatre while the other students study for first-year exams, the Māori and Pasifika students are paired off to practise responses to questions like: “Didn’t you only get into med because you’re brown?” Many of us are “innocently’’ misidentified as hospital cleaners when we’re on clinical placement. Recently I had someone ask if MAPAS students receive all the answers to our exams in advance, such is the persistence of this idea of our “easy’’ entrance into medicine.

 

 

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This graphic, which I saw over the road at VVO, distinguishes between the political and the non-political quite well, I think  

Why it can feel hard to talk about racial inequality, and why you should do it anyway.... So, anyway, as i mentioned in a couple of other threads, the company I work for gave us a paid day off in

Racism is defined as: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. You can't change the definition to

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Follow the live comments that were made as he was talking on the right side of the video.

Slave movies are designed to put people back in their place and train them to hopelessness.

  • 40 years of "black cinema" in Hollywood (Hollywood funded and made movies only - not cinema from outside the USA).
  • 80+ films or shows on Slavery alone
  • 40+ on civil rights
  • 1 on African Civilization - and someone then notes in the youtube comments that the 1 film he found was actually NOT from Hollywood, but made by a South African studio and Hollywood just bought the distribution rights (Shaka Zulu).

 

 

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What an amazing 53 page trainwreck this is... OMG. I discovered this discussion a couple of hours ago and read through most of the 53 pages so far. One thing sticks out like a massive sore thumb that really needs to be pointed out: If you're white and you claim you're not a racist, chances are you are going to be talked down to and will be shown a couple of CNN or MSNBC youtube links. These 2 "sources" have been called out a couple of times before as being ahum... fake news... You could do your own research on those. And by resource don't mean look for youtube videos that align with your narrative.

 

I am mixed race, so you lost the chance to call me racist for what i'm about to say. I read a lot of buzzwords like "white privilege" and "systematic oppression" and i can't help but seeing the massive irony when those words are being used.

Let me be extremely clear. I am not a racist, i was not brought up to first look at someone's skin tone and judge them by it but you can not ignore how often it is being used here. I see a lot of people advocating for (terrorist) organizations like BLM and when you tell them ALM they lose it. Honestly stop and think about that. All lives matter INCLUDES black lives. How do you not see that? If someone responds to your black lives matter with all lives matter, that by definition proves that person is not a racist because they see every person equally. Do you honestly not see that? I will always say All Lives Matter. It's time you start doing that too or a white person may call YOU a racist over it, and guess what, they would be correct.

 

There are a lot of definitions for the word racism, but i think we can all agree that the most accurate would be that one person judges an other based on their skin tone. So to all of you advocating for things like BLM and saying white people have something called white privilege, how would you call what you are doing at that moment? Because you are judging someone based on what skin tone they have. By definition that makes you a racist. Some people found a different definition of the word Racism that includes this: "Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another." They use the argument that black people can't be racist because they are supposedly oppressed > (source: https://www.pambazuka.org/governance/black-people-can’t-be-racist) Statements like these frustrate me to hell and back. It is intellectually dishonest and the goalposts are being moved so far you'll need a telescope to still see them. Racism is plain and simple; One person judges another based on the skin tone and allows or disallows the other to have or do things. If you're white and you don't give a black person a job or want to do business with them, you're a racist! If you're black and you're going to blame any random white person for things you claim other white people did, you're a racist! Everyone can be a racist. Saying anything otherwise is you just rolling on the floor stamping your feet like a 4 year old toddler not getting what it wants.

 

All this hoopla started with George Floyd obviously, so what happened? The most reasonable thing in the world, right? Lets attack police, white people AND black police and call them uncle Tom's, right? That's very civilized, isn't it and not at all racist. Nobody attacked anyone here based on what their skin tone is, right? You are fighting fire with fire, how do you expect a solution to that?

 

There is racism in the world, of course there is, but fighting racism with racism is not the answer. Blaming white people for what previous generations did is downright condescending and humiliating AND racist.

 

BLM advocates, i fully understand your issues and frustrations, and i stand with you in finding a solution, but you are going at it the wrong way, you are doing the exact same thing you accuse your opponent from. Just like Antifa does, fighting fascism with fascism. The irony in that is beyond ridiculous and once you will start seeing this, you will be able to come to a solution.

Stop being a victim culture, almost a victim cult even. You have no idea how much better you have it in 2020 compared to 200 years ago. Also fun fact, the white people that did oppress black people 200 years ago are no longer alive! So why blame the current generation that bends over backwards by the way, to make things as equal as possible for everyone.

 

Now do your best in trying to find my RL info and spam it all over groups like someone here did already with someone that spoke out about this. I can not possibly describe to you how pathetic that was and how it is not helping your case at all.

 

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there is no such thing as "white privilege" . There is a majority privilege, yes. And maybe a cultural bias ( here i can quote Denzel Washington: "It's Not Color, It's Culture."

try to get a job in an african or asian country  if you are not over skilled for your job. Even in same country, white people will hire whites, black business owners will be favorable to black, asians to asians. hell, even is same race, white germans dont like white russians, or polish, or romanians, or whoever come to get a job. and most of the time not because they are racists or xenophobes, but because when different cultures clashes things get messy.

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Two, separates posts here and then I'm out again.

One of the dumbest things I've read in the Forum was said a while ago, in another thread, by someone who claims to be so woke the rest of us are sleepwalking next to her glory. It was said that people who think that racism is a political issue annoy her. That got many ♥s, which made me tilt my head and think, "wtf?"

Huh. Well, if one were to take that to mean that liberals can be as racist as conservatives, then ok. Sure. Duh. Everyone can be racist, and I'm pretty sure everyone IS racist to one degree or another.

But racism, especially as it is being expressed *institutionally* is absolutely a political issue.  When political leaders espouse hateful things, about *any* race, it is... political. (Kung Flu anyone?) Laws? Political. Etc. Racism is so closely tied to politics and "group think" that it is ludicrous to state otherwise. Sure, we have to fix things on a personal, one-on-one level, of course, but until society, including its politics, comes on board, it'll be a tough fight for those individuals who need to change to change.

I hope those who seek to change the direction our country (and btw,  not just the USA has these problems) get up an vote appropriately. You know, politically. A can of tomatoes is better than Trump. But, sadly the "woke" folk tend to just sit on their butts and don't vote. It is easier to write forum screeds.

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In a similar thread to this, now closed, I was accused of being Klan adjacent. Why? Because against the screech, sturm and drang of a vocal few, there was "no room" for any type of discussion. One either toed the "correct" (as defined by...?????) party line or you were lumped in with the people who obviously are racists and deniers. This is happening not only in this small, meaningless forum but on the wider scale. Discussion, and therefore the ability to problem solve, is being quashed. I have not read this thread other than the beginning, scan some, post a question wondering if anyone has even bothered to read the books Kali mentioned in the OP. I don't need to read it to know that more of the same is being done here. Not by everyone. Don't get me wrong (although some will, ironically proving my point). But, loud, condescending voices seem to be the rage.

The reason I'm writing this is that I read an interesting article ABOUT an interesting article, regarding just this type of shouting-to-cover-discussion thing that is happening here in the forum and in the USA (and elsewhere). It was exactly the same thing as happened to me--and many others, on a smaller scale, being referred to as making the Klan happy. The linked article (below) covers the letter and the reaction to the original letter... the whole thing. So, to those of you who have an interest in discussions and how they are quelled, to people interested in sociological ideas... you may be interested in this.

Here's an excerpt and a link. To those who think there is only one Truth and only one way to think, well, you aren't all that woke and you are probably actually harming the very thing you are posturing so hard about. You don't fix oppressing people by oppressing other people's speech. ffs  And no, I'm not following this thread so I don't really care if this or my other posts are agreed with or not. Concept.

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So he and four other writers penned “A Letter on Justice and Open Debate” — warning that “the free exchange of information and ideas” was being compromised by “an intolerance of opposing views, a vogue for public shaming” and “the tendency to dissolve complex policy issues in a blinding moral certainty.” Published July 7 by Harper’s, it was signed by 153 notable figures from academia, media and culture, including Noam Chomsky, Gloria Steinem, Margaret Atwood, Salman Rushdie and Wynton Marsalis.

link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-harpers-letter-cancel-culture-and-the-summer-that-drove-a-lot-of-smart-people-mad/2020/07/23/9df5d6e4-c84c-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html

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19 hours ago, Pussycat Catnap said:

Slave movies are designed to put people back in their place and train them to hopelessness.

I am kind of speechless -- that even in movies about slaves White people manage to screw up this bad!  I've been planning to watch the newest Harriet Tubman movie and had no idea they got it so wrong. I mean sure, there were a few Black bounty hunters just as there were Native American scouts siding with the enemy so they could partake of the status or resources of the Whites, but they were few compared to the actual Whites who abused POC.

Whenever I learn of these traitors of the past or present, I feel a deep anger -- in my mind a special place in hell should be reserved for them. Add to this list the people who sided with Hitler, among others.  The sense of betrayal is what angers me the most about them.

I imagine whoever made this Harriet Tubman decided to capitalize on this anger by using an Uncle Tom as the evil element in the film to focus our anger on. At least for me I'd probably feel more anger toward someone who betrays than the actual White abuser, although intellectually I realize Whites did far more harm overall. And they do want us to feel in these movies -- they try to hook our emotions, and when they do that's often when we feel we've enjoyed a film the most.

What I don't get is why the creator of this film could not see it's a bad idea to use an Uncle Tom to elicit anger when so many films disproportionately portray Blacks as the bad guy, and so comprehend the problems in making it seem like Blacks are always bad yet again.   Did they not know?  Did they know and take a delight in being able to achieve this stereotype because they are racist and so designed the film to "put people back in their place and train them to hopelessness"? Or were they so obsessed with eliciting anger that they couldn't resist using the traitor dynamic to achieve it?   ** (I'm only wondering about this film specifically, as I know the dynamic you mention is true for the majority of films depicting Blacks and slavery throughout the years)

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On 7/25/2020 at 11:16 PM, Mollymews said:

You can see it so clearly in Emma Espiner's account of her experience -- the belief that someone is only 'okay' or acceptable when they become just like the dominant, most powerful group.

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2 hours ago, Luna Bliss said:

I am kind of speechless -- that even in movies about slaves White people manage to screw up this bad!  I've been planning to watch the newest Harriet Tubman movie and had no idea they got it so wrong. I mean sure, there were a few Black bounty hunters just as there were Native American scouts siding with the enemy so they could partake of the status or resources of the Whites, but they were few compared to the actual Whites who abused POC.

I am now boycotting the Harriet movie.

 

They created a fictional character for the villain: a Black man slave-catcher (I presume working for the Confederacy) who is hunting her.

NO SUCH PERSON WAS IN HER LIFE HISTORICALLY

But she DID have a whole LOT of white slave-catchers try to get to her, NONE OF WHICH are in the movie...

So Hollywood had to make the villain a black man...
 

 

Yes historically there were black bounty hunters. The SS also used Jewish people to operate the gas chambers, and Geronimo was hunted down by 2 of his own scouts turned traitor...

Crow Nation members were often paid to hunter other natives - and in the end they did NOT get what they were promised for that... (among the various ways my family tried to hide that we're West African... we used to claim we were Crow and Cherokee... So I studied Crow a lot when I was younger hoping to reconnect... and learned this tragic fact, unless it too is a lie... I actually need to re-research it...)

But of course such people betraying their own have always been the exception...

And again... they weren't in Harriet's tale.

 

PS: One reason I've never seen Hamilton is that too bothers me - when you take a person from a very racist period and try to clean them up by switching them to the race of the people that were/are being put down... it bugs me. Tell history in all of it's UGLY truths... It's helps to understand why change is vital.

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As for needing a focus of anger, I get what you're saying there but I have even less faith in Hollywood than that. I think this was intentional. There's a very common trope and attempt to set black men and women apart from each other - and there's a very common thing to say among people who have racist ancestors of "well everyone had them, see here's this example from history" - and that is true, but it is also a clear attempt to distract away from whatever is being discussed in that moment. Making the villain a black guy allows the film to NOT address slavery head on... And if they DID address historic slavery as it was at that time - they would have all the villain any film ever needed... but it would also force viewers to see something a lot of viewers don't want to see... their bad ancestors.

Ever since 'Dukes of Hazard' there's always been a part of Hollywood that wants to make the 'Lost Cause' look better... and they're quieter now, but I feel like they got a tendril into this production and managed to sneak in that character.



Having a bad ancestor is NOT something to stand around and hang your head down low over... it's a rallying call to do some justice. A relative of mine is descended from an actual Nazi - an actual German WWII Nazi that was not just a soldier... that relative is a Civil Rights activist and has been for more decades than I have been alive. Their Nazi parent was the grave they planted a flag of 'get righteous and fix the things you can' on.

You see this in a lot of places where there has been injustice - if the descendants are forced to see it for what it was, many of them become standard bearers of changing things. That's why I like the YouTuber 'Beau of the Fifth Column' ( https://www.youtube.com/user/unvoicedproject ). He's a southerner with a very stereotypical look and sound - but then you hear what he has to say, and if you watch him long enough why, and you realize that a Southerner has more space than anyone else to speak FOR racial and class justice - it's his own ancestors that he's out there correcting.

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Luna Bliss and Pussycat Catnap, you two are demonstrating beautifully what i've explained in my post. Its hilariously unbelievable how wrapped up the both of you are in your narratives. 

3 hours ago, Luna Bliss said:

even in movies about slaves White people manage to screw up this bad!

Here you accuse an entire ethnic group of getting something wrong about slave movies. I have a couple of things to say about that. First of all, and do please pay attention to this: You're aware that only a small fraction of people on this earth are involved in the art of filmmaking, right? So why is it "white people" that done did it? Do i need to explain again what racism is to the both of you?

 

46 minutes ago, Pussycat Catnap said:

I am now boycotting the Harriet movie.

This idiotic Cancel Culture bulls*t has to stop and i urge you two to start living in the real world, not Youtube "research" or freaking movies. Actual research. Back your words up with proof and citations. Actual citations, not CNN or MSNBC please.

 

I've seen some Trump slandering as well here. I do ask you who said that. Show me one single shred of evidence he was racist. Or shall i show you how he actually makes life better for you? This idiotic "Orange Man Bad" Trump derangement syndrome is hilariously silly and based on absolutely nothing. PROVE me wrong!

 

I'm not american, but i do follow a lot of American politics and general American goofiness. It's entertainment to me. But if i could, i would migrate to America. You have no idea how good you have it. And the first thing i'd do is vote for Trump. 

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30 minutes ago, CaithLynnSayes said:

This idiotic Cancel Culture bulls*t has to stop and i urge you two to start living in the real world, not Youtube "research" or freaking movies. Actual research. Back your words up with proof and citations. Actual citations, not CNN or MSNBC please.

The real world that have fake a fake black man that never existed as the primary villain going after the historical figure or Harriet Tubman? Or some other real world that has actual history?

Which 'real world' should I be in?

Maybe the one on cable TV about housewives...? 😛

 

If I made a movie about... the Munich Massacre where an Israeli team was attacked and killed... and recast it so it was a FAKE Israeli Jewish person that did the attack... imagine the extreme outrage... I'd probably find myself in front of a criminal court in Israel... justifiably so...

Or maybe a movie about the Uyghur in China... and cast it as a Uyghur person rounding them up and sending them to camps, and not the Chinese... the whole world would send me a 'screw you' message...

If I made a movie about the Irish War of Independence and cast as my main villain a fictional brother to Eoin MacNeill who betrayed his own family to the English... Irish outrage would be... most severe...

We can go on here... but why...

 

So yeah... I'm gonna boycott that Harriet movie.

If you really wanted to know why... you'd watch the video from Black Sands that I posted. He spends almost a half hour on just that point alone... and to the right of it, the whole time, are comments from people adding to his points... But you know... he's a black man... and I gather your first problem is that you would never ever listen to him just for that reason alone.

 

That movie was on the top of my must-see list, until I heard my distant cousin there speak. Vato got a point.

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18 minutes ago, CaithLynnSayes said:

 Actual research. Back your words up with proof and citations. Actual citations, not CNN or MSNBC please.

Sure, why not?

https://gyazo.com/2fad4fdad578d7463f28e6549e2e9021

Here's the whole study:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/pager/files/ajs_quillianpager.pdf

22 minutes ago, CaithLynnSayes said:

I've seen some Trump slandering as well here. I do ask you who said that. Show me one single shred of evidence he was racist. Or shall i show you how he actually makes life better for you? This idiotic "Orange Man Bad" Trump derangement syndrome is hilariously silly and based on absolutely nothing. PROVE me wrong!

Ok.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/

 

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Seicher Rae seems to be confused, so let me explain.

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I just suggested for Pussycat Catnap to start living in the real world and not in movies, and the reaction was this:

40 minutes ago, Pussycat Catnap said:

The real world that have fake a fake black man that never existed as the primary villain going after the historical figure or Harriet Tubman? Or some other real world that has actual history?

Which 'real world' should I be in?

Maybe the one on cable TV about housewives...? 😛

And then some more rambling about movies. Is this a joke? Is it April Fools day somewhere? I just said to not compare real life to movies and live in the real world with real people and you respond by talking about movies again... This has to be trolling, this isn't real...

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6 minutes ago, CaithLynnSayes said:

Seicher Rae seems to be confused, so let me explain.

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I just suggested for Pussycat Catnap to start living in the real world and not in movies, and the reaction was this:

And then some more rambling about movies. Is this a joke? Is it April Fools day somewhere? I just said to not compare real life to movies and live in the real world with real people and you respond by talking about movies again... This has to be trolling, this isn't real...

Yeahhhhh. I'm confused but not by what you think I'm confused with...

@Pussycat Catnap is a LONG time member of the Forums, going back to iterations well before this one. She and I may not always agree on things, but a troll she is not. You? Jury is still out, but is coming to a conclusion. Pussycat is highly intelligent AND knowledgeable (not the same thing) on various topics. Her experience of being Black in America is probably just a tad more "realistic" than yours  [sarcasm font]. You might possibly be trolling outside of your depth.

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Listen, i'm not trolling. Far from it. I really don't care how long someone is a member of a forum. That has nothing to do with what is being said here. In no way did i challenge anyone's intelligence here. All i'm saying is that movies are not the real world. Movies are made by only a small number of people as i said before. You can not blame an entire ethnic group for that. And when i point that out i just get answers about the same movie and a couple of others. All i do is point that out and question if someone's pulling my leg with that. I'm not being sarcastic. I know i can be but not this time.

 

I've said it before. The BLM thing... I understand why, i understand you're against racism, so am i, but the way you're going about it, isn't helping your case. Blaming "white people" as a whole for something isn't helping anyone. And those movies talked about are interpretations of things that happened in the past. This is 2020. Fix today, not yesterday. Yesterday is gone. You seem very hostile towards me, and that's ok to be honest, but you're not seeing i'm actually on your side when it comes to racism. Just not the way you choose to go about it. Please understand that. Don't fight racism with racism. Do i really need to explain this again? Just read my first reply near the top of page 53.

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1 minute ago, CaithLynnSayes said:

Listen, i'm not trolling. Far from it. I really don't care how long someone is a member of a forum. That has nothing to do with what is being said here. In no way did i challenge anyone's intelligence here. All i'm saying is that movies are not the real world. Movies are made by only a small number of people as i said before. You can not blame an entire ethnic group for that. And when i point that out i just get answers about the same movie and a couple of others. All i do is point that out and question if someone's pulling my leg with that. I'm not being sarcastic. I know i can be but not this time.

 

I've said it before. The BLM thing... I understand why, i understand you're against racism, so am i, but the way you're going about it, isn't helping your case. Blaming "white people" as a whole for something isn't helping anyone. And those movies talked about are interpretations of things that happened in the past. This is 2020. Fix today, not yesterday. Yesterday is gone. You seem very hostile towards me, and that's ok to be honest, but you're not seeing i'm actually on your side when it comes to racism. Just not the way you choose to go about it. Please understand that. Don't fight racism with racism. Do i really need to explain this again? Just read my first reply near the top of page 53.

I read what you wrote. Followed the conversation with Pussycat and others. Concept! I followed what she said quite well. I followed what you said too, and wasn't impressed.

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5 minutes ago, Seicher Rae said:

 

@Pussycat Catnap is a LONG time member of the Forums, going back to iterations well before this one.

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Pussycat is highly intelligent AND knowledgeable (not the same thing) on various topics. Her experience of being Black in America is probably just a tad more "realistic" than yours  [sarcasm font]. You might possibly be trolling outside of your depth.

Sometimes my intelligence and my knowledge are also NOT on the same topics... much to my dismay when I realize it... O.o

That noted... I've mentioned this before; I'm more correctly 'Chicana in America'. Mulatto technically. Only people with access to my DNA realize I'm part black. Culturally my roots come out of communities of Latino/Latina people who did not ever cross the border, but had the border cross them. The kind who speak a version of Spanish that is about as Mexican as a Burrito, or as Indian as Curry.

These are mi homies:

😛

We do have a lot of shared struggles though - so I relate on that ground.

The current 'topic of the nation' is about Black Lives Matter - so that's where I've been coming from on this one. Even if I were to be selfish; I'm in the set of dominoes set to fall right after the African Americans. But beyond that; I feel solidarity is vital to everyone so I rally behind whoever is being targeted by injustice.

 

 

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1 minute ago, CaithLynnSayes said:

And those movies talked about are interpretations of things that happened in the past. This is 2020. Fix today, not yesterday. Yesterday is gone. You seem very hostile towards me, and that's ok to be honest, but you're not seeing i'm actually on your side when it comes to racism.

You can't discuss racism in the US without discussing the history of it. The two are inextricably linked, the history of it is why it's systemic today.

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4 minutes ago, Janet Voxel said:

You can't discuss racism in the US without discussing the history of it. The two are inextricably linked, the history of it is why it's systemic today.

I seriously disagree with that statement Janet. Please try to see it this way: If you keep clinging on to what happened in the past, how do you expect to go forwards? As stated before, i don't judge or hate or discriminate towards anyone because of a skin tone. And i can only do that for myself. I have no clue if my great great grandfather was a racist, he could very well have been. Why am i supposed to apologize for that? I am me, my actions happen today. I don't hate anyone for the skin tone they were born with. So why do you keep holding the past above a certain ethnic group's head and make them apologize for it? I honestly don't get that and i'm not trying to be edgy. It honestly baffles me.

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16 minutes ago, CaithLynnSayes said:

All i'm saying is that movies are not the real world. Movies are made by only a small number of people as i said before.

Media both reflects society and influences society. This is why we analyze it. Television and movies are not separate from the real world at all in terms of maintaining and changing attitudes toward life.
For example, when a crime series on TV shows People Of Color as more likely to be criminal compared to Whites the public starts to believe POC are more likely to be criminal on a more unconscious or subliminal level -- this is why we need to bring awareness to character portrayals in the media.

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