Are You Showing Support for Black Lives Matter in Second Life?

[FairreLilette]

10 minutes ago, Extrude Ragu said:

It is happening. That's why I am worrying about it.

Change causes anxiety.  However, a new history is being written here.  It was long over-due.  It is time to allow the statues to be moved to a museum to discuss the full history, not a corrupted one, Extrude.  

Edited June 10, 2020 by FairreLilette

[Extrude Ragu]

1 minute ago, Sylvia Tamalyn said:

How about respect for the people who were enslaved by the subjects of the statues you are so eager to defend

This is a non-argument. It provides no reason why history should be destroyed.

7 minutes ago, Sylvia Tamalyn said:

At this point, I have to conclude that one of two things is going on here: trolling or racism. That being the case, I'll not waste any further time on the topic of "SAVE THE STATUES". 

I think that you are attempting to come up with reasons to tell yourself why I must be a troll or a racist, because my views do not align with yours, and I do not respond to your appeals to emotion like the way you would like me to, instead taking most of what you say with a healthy dose of salt. It's fine. You don't have to provide an excuse, you can tune me out if you like you do not need to find yourself an excuse.

[Luna Bliss]

5 minutes ago, Extrude Ragu said:

This is a non-argument. It provides no reason why history should be destroyed.

How about the argument that we don't want to hear about statues anymore, and a suggestion that you go start another thread about statues because it's been discussed enough and nobody is ever going to agree with you.

[Extrude Ragu]

11 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

How about the argument that we don't want to hear about statues anymore, and a suggestion that you go start another thread about statues because it's been discussed enough and nobody is ever going to agree with you.

You too are welcome to tune me out if you only wish to hear things that you agree with. Everyone is.

I do not want to live in an echo chamber. I am aware that there are only a minority of vocal readers who agree with my sentiment, but I still wish to read and I still wish to express myself none the less.

[Luna Bliss]

1 minute ago, Extrude Ragu said:

You too are welcome to tune me out if you only wish to hear things that you agree with. Everyone is.

I do not want to live in an echo chamber. I am aware that there are only a minority of vocal readers who agree with my sentiment, but I still wish to read and I still wish to express myself none the less.

Nobody is tuning you out because they can't stand to read something they disagree with. They are just sick of hearing about statues and disagree with your viewpoint.  Continuing on and on with your viewpoint is not going to change anything.

You are beating a dead horse.  Do you understand this concept? 

[Pixieplumb Flanagan]

3 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

Nobody is tuning you out because they can't stand to read something they disagree with. They are just sick of hearing about statues and disagree with your viewpoint.  Continuing on and on with your viewpoint is not going to change anything.

You are beating a dead horse.  Do you understand this concept? 

Well, I am.  I don't think they understand this concept, but even if they do, I'm too old to spend time reading the same tired old arguments.  Luna, you have the patience of a saint xxxx

[Dano Seale]

18 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

How about the argument that we don't want to hear about statues anymore, and a suggestion that you go start another thread about statues because it's been discussed enough and nobody is ever going to agree with you.

"Do as I say, don't do as I do" syndrome is still alive and kicking I see!  😆

[Pixieplumb Flanagan]

On the plus side, the more people you pop on the ignore list, the quicker you get through long threads, which is brilliant.

[Luna Bliss]

5 minutes ago, Dano Seale said:

39 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

How about the argument that we don't want to hear about statues anymore, and a suggestion that you go start another thread about statues because it's been discussed enough and nobody is ever going to agree with you.

"Do as I say, don't do as I do" syndrome is still alive and kicking I see!  😆

Not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate?

[Beth Macbain]

How many people stop and read the plaques on the statues in question? Hell, the one just removed here in Louisville was in the middle of an automobile roundabout. To say that these statues are teaching anyone about history is pretty asinine. Stop any random person walking by one at any given time and ask them if they know who the statue represents, and why it's there, and few would be able to answer.

Crying "won't someone please think about the statues?" is insane. History can, and is, learned in all sorts of different ways. Statues really aren't one of those ways. The people represented by these statues aren't only racists - they're traitors. They created an army to go battle their own country so they could own black human beings. There is no one who lives in the United States that isn't aware of the Civil War, and if by some strange chance that there are people who don't know about it, they aren't going to learn about it from a statue. 

JFC.

On a different subject, I'm listening to the House Hearings on Police Brutality right now. I'm also working and reading the forums, so I'm not listening too closely, but I did perk up when one of the congressmen talked about the qualified immunity for police officers, and how we needed to get rid of it - and a person there representing the police unions made what I would consider a threat to the Congress of the United States of America - he asked them to consider that if qualified immunity were eliminated, there would be no police officers.

If that is enough to make a cop walk off the job, then that person shouldn't be a cop. I really think that the key to reform is by taking away the power the unions hold. 

Edited June 10, 2020 by Beth Macbain
Accidentally a word.

[Janet Voxel]

1 minute ago, Beth Macbain said:

Crying "won't someone please think about the statues?" is insane.

That's really all you had to say.

What's even more mind boggling is how they went from "1984" to "won't someone please think about the statues?"

Like.....this is really hard for some people.

[Coffee Pancake]

27 minutes ago, Extrude Ragu said:

You too are welcome to tune me out if you only wish to hear things that you agree with. Everyone is.

I do not want to live in an echo chamber. I am aware that there are only a minority of vocal readers who agree with my sentiment, but I still wish to read and I still wish to express myself none the less.

Yes, that's the key take away here.

It's *REALLY* important everyone knows the person with an anime avatar has a right-wing opinion on statues, who would have ever imagined. 

[Luna Bliss]

3 minutes ago, Janet Voxel said:

That's really all you had to say.

What's even more mind boggling is how they went from "1984" to "won't someone please think about the statues?"

Like.....this is really hard for some people.

I don't know, but it's beginning to dawn on me that somebody doesn't approve of the Black Lives Movement....

[Extrude Ragu]

Since people are so bored of hearing about statues and claim to otherwise not mind me being critical of this movement. I'll talk about some other stuff that bothers me.

I took a visit to the UKBLM's gofundme page and read an interesting line that seems to push more motives than simply ensuring equal opportunity for black people.

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We’re guided by a commitment to dismantle imperialism, capitalism, white-supremacy, patriarchy

Dismantle capitalism?

[Janet Voxel]

Just now, Luna Bliss said:

I don't know, but it's beginning to dawn on me that somebody doesn't approve of the Black Lives Movement....

Ya think?

And you know what...that's ok. Some things though are like....my god....my god...

[Luna Bliss]

2 minutes ago, Extrude Ragu said:

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We’re guided by a commitment to dismantle imperialism, capitalism, white-supremacy, patriarchy

Dismantle capitalism?

Well sure....we need more socialism to go with that capitalism, like other wealthier countries that provide all their citizens with healthcare and many more needed benefits.  Unlike here where the poor are considered morally at fault for their poverty and given less resources to cope.

[Janet Voxel]

3 minutes ago, Extrude Ragu said:

Dismantle capitalism?

What about that bothers you?

[Coffee Pancake]

3 minutes ago, Extrude Ragu said:

Dismantle capitalism?

Go make a new thread if you want to talk politics.

This thread is not that.

[Innula Zenovka]

1 hour ago, Extrude Ragu said:

It is happening. That's why I am worrying about it.

What's happening?

You wrote,

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Could you imagine the uproar if a group of people decided one day, they're going to flatten the Pyramids of Egypt because they were made by oppressed slaves. Somebody came along and smashed up the pharaoh's. Threw old artifacts into a river etc.

Admittedly I don't follow the news from Egypt as closely as perhaps I might, but I'm pretty sure nothing like that's happened lately and neither is it likely to.

Edited June 10, 2020 by Innula Zenovka

[Luna Bliss]

1 minute ago, Janet Voxel said:

4 minutes ago, Extrude Ragu said:

Dismantle capitalism?

What about that bothers you?

It has served Black people so well, right?   /sarcasm

[Arielle Popstar]

4 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

Well sure....we need more socialism to go with that capitalism, like other wealthier countries that provide all their citizens with healthcare and many more needed benefits.  Unlike here where the poor are considered morally at fault for their poverty and given less resources to cope.

My understanding is that the UK has healthcare.

[Dano Seale]

5 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

Not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate?

Sure. Let's take your posts in the "pet peeve" thread, where you and several others have been "off topic" for the past 2 days babbling about the joys of ASMR. You post such pearls of wisdom such as:
"First, a very quick definition of Scientism:
'Scientism" is a name for the view that science is the only reliable source of knowledge.............ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!" 
Sorry, there's 4 paragraphs that follow that gem but I always fall asleep before I can copy it all!

Meanwhile, others who want to see and discuss people's "pet peeve's" are posting:
"If you're going to argue (no, not a one of you is truly debating) over ASMR, kindly take it to another bloody thread to avoid getting this one closed."
...but you and yes, others, just keep going on...and on....and on....ZZZZZZZ!

Apparently  - "I can change my brainwaves at will."...really? Well try changing them from "ASMR" to "GTFO"! instead of trying to tell others to do what you can't!

Elaborated enough?
 

3 minutes ago, CoffeeDujour said:

Go make a new thread if you want to talk politics.

This thread is not that.

64 previous pages here isn't what this thread is about either....doesn't seem to have sent us all elsewhere does it? lol.


 

[Beth Macbain]

11 minutes ago, Extrude Ragu said:

Since people are so bored of hearing about statues and claim to otherwise not mind me being critical of this movement. I'll talk about some other stuff that bothers me.

I took a visit to the UKBLM's gofundme page and read an interesting line that seems to push more motives than simply ensuring equal opportunity for black people.

Dismantle capitalism?

Thanks for the link! I just donated! It's not much, but I'm sure I'll be on their list now, and they'll ask again, and I'll give again!

[Extrude Ragu]

6 minutes ago, CoffeeDujour said:

Go make a new thread if you want to talk politics.

This thread is not that.

Well, the thread is about whether or not you support Black Lives Matter. And the Black Lives Matter page in the UK suggests dismantling capitalism, so I think it is relevant

[Luna Bliss]

3 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

8 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

Well sure....we need more socialism to go with that capitalism, like other wealthier countries that provide all their citizens with healthcare and many more needed benefits.  Unlike here where the poor are considered morally at fault for their poverty and given less resources to cope.

My understanding is that the UK has healthcare.

Yes, that could be why someone in the UK might not understand the deprivation of those in the US where many of the poor are left out. Nor understand that their system of government includes more elements of socialism that the US does.