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If at one time someone could blame this on "wireless," I now have a new Internet provider with the router plugged directly into the computer, so that's not the issue. It meets all the specs and more.

This is a chronic problem that goes away for whole months -- then whoops, comes back again, often in tandem with search borking.

I filed a ticket with the Lindens to see what they would say.

After a very long time, and several "hold" messages, I finally was told...to log on to secondlife.com from inside the viewer and click "remember me".

Oh, I thought, sounds great, maybe that will work, although I recalled it not working before, but maybe I missed something.

Yesterday, during a session of less than two hours, it asked me to re-log in order to use search FOUR TIMES.

Yes, I have "general-mature-adult" checked off in preferences.

Yes, I log in from inside the SL viewer and check "remember me".

And it STILL makes me re-log AGAIN just to use search and find something other than "General" results.

Or to see someone's profile -- this is very chronic.

This is a bug, people. It is not normal. Once I have longed on to THE VIEWER ITSELF, that should be ENOUGH.

I am on the regular SL viewer.

 

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Well, you can rest easy. Even the worst connection in the world won't log you out of websites on its own.

Your "login session" is typically saved into the browser's cookies (or just "cache" if that's more familiar). Lose the cookie, lose the login.

I'm having trouble understanding what the main issue is though.

1 hour ago, Prokofy Neva said:

This is a chronic problem that goes away for whole months -- then whoops, comes back again, often in tandem with search borking.

So if the search breaking is not the main issue, what is?

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50 minutes ago, Wulfie Reanimator said:

Well, you can rest easy. Even the worst connection in the world won't log you out of websites on its own.

Your "login session" is typically saved into the browser's cookies (or just "cache" if that's more familiar). Lose the cookie, lose the login.

I'm having trouble understanding what the main issue is though.

So if the search breaking is not the main issue, what is?

Well, like it says on the can, the *FORCED LOG-ON* IS THE ISSUE.

I haven't done anything to "lose the cookie". I've logged on with the regular SL browser which presumably adds a cookie or whatever; I've stayed on for a few hours; I've not logged off or crashed. I haven't done anything. Yet as soon as I go back to search or go to a profile, it is forcing me to log in again.

If at one time I could blame Verizon for this, nope, no more, now I'm on Spectrum.

BTW, a recent patch made it possible for me to click on those red beacon arrows and make them disappear again. For a long time, it wouldn't let me do this.

So I point out that this forced log-on is co-morbid with search borking because it is. I see a grid notice that search isn't working, or someone tells me search isn't working, or I discover it isn't, and whoops, that forced log-on is also present. But it's not always.

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yes I have noticed this as well

web search, web profiles and marketplace asking me to log in to the web service from within the viewer and remember me. Do that and then it asks again the next time, then it doesn't for a while, then it does again, then doesn't, then does

Is some kind of intermittent wonkiness going on. Session keys or cookies or something

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Thank you. This is why one comes to the forums. For validation. And it means battling through of thicket of skepticism and scoffing but if one persists, there it is, that validation.

But I notice you are saying "web search, web profiles". I'm talking about inworld profiles and inworld search in the viewer. That's making me log in again. Marketplace outside of the viewer -- which is the only way I access it -- doesn't make me log in again.

"Web search" isn't something I would do from inside the viewer. I just prefer to do most things, even Marketplace editing and such outside of the viewer, because inside the viewer is kind of a cramped, loggy place.

But that prompts a question. You know under preferences/setup/web, there are radio buttons to click saying:

o use the default system browser for all links

o use the built-in browser for Second Life links only

o use the built-in browser for all links

I don't really know the use cases for all this but I only have the second one checked which is the default. Could that be relevant?

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3 hours ago, Prokofy Neva said:

But I notice you are saying "web search, web profiles". I'm talking about inworld profiles and inworld search in the viewer. That's making me log in again. Marketplace outside of the viewer -- which is the only way I access it -- doesn't make me log in again.

"Web search" isn't something I would do from inside the viewer. I just prefer to do most things, even Marketplace editing and such outside of the viewer, because inside the viewer is kind of a cramped, loggy place

yes we are talking about the same thing.  By web I mean the linden web browser window in the viewer. It just go wonky sometimes

probably because I use the same viewer for my two different accounts. I think it somehow gets its session keys or cookies or something mixed up

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On 5/15/2020 at 3:57 PM, Prokofy Neva said:

This is a bug, people. It is not normal. Once I have longed on to THE VIEWER ITSELF, that should be ENOUGH.

Yes, it is. And bug report filed here a couple of months back.  BUG-228311 Viewer browser for Marketplace, Search does not remember login credentials

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6 hours ago, Willow Wilder said:

Yes, it is. And bug report filed here a couple of months back.  BUG-228311 Viewer browser for Marketplace, Search does not remember login credentials

Thank you. I'm banned from the JIRA so I can't even read it. I'm glad it is validated as a bug. Unlike the ability to return prims in "share" despite the group rules banning returns of group-set prims, which is why I was banned from the JIRA, for pasting that idiocy as a bug when certain Lindens believed it was a feature.

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5 hours ago, Ron Khondji said:

Solution is:

o use the default system browser for all links

OMG it's Ron Khondji! I didn't know you were still in SL. I use your teleporter script dozens of time every day. It's really the simplest, the best, and the least laggy as I was telling a Linden the other day. I'm glad you're still alive and well. I will try checking off the default system on all those radio buttons and see if it cures, although if it's a but as indicated above that may not work.

 

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