Leila Refenoir Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 For ten years SL and FS viewer has been fine. then I download new SL viewer and the scenery is grey. So for many months I had no SL or FS. It is a shame coz I am in a total lock-down and would like to continue with what I had before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anidusa Carolina Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 I think it will be hard to tell what the reason is, as long as we do not know about your computer hardware. Me, personal, I did not use SL Viewer since 2010, I am on Firestorm since that time. Maybe you should check your viewer settings, they might be too high for your machine. Have you tried to play with them and see what happens at the lowest graphic settings? Anyway, without having some data, nobody will be able to analyse the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalates Urriah Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 We do need to know your computer specs. Use the viewer's HELP->About... to copy then paste here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfie Reanimator Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) Just a wild guess, but this looks like the asset server is failing to fetch any textures, including avatar bakes, which is why your avatar is a cloud. You may want to double-check that you haven't blocked anything SL related in your firewall. I can't think off the top of my head what specific steps you should take. There is also a viewer setting to disable textures, which might result to this, but I think it's unlikely you would have accidentally toggled it. Edited April 12, 2020 by Wulfie Reanimator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leila Refenoir Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 I have had others try and download on their servers and same result. Incomplete package. The opinion is that there is need for test of connections/servers along the line to SL. Can you tell me how to do this please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollymews Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 as you are able to log in to SL then your connection to the region server is ok what seems to be not ok is your connection to the Second Life CDN (Content Delivery Network - textures and other assets) which is on a different server to the region server. What CDN server you are connected to depends on where you are in the world. For example I usually get connected to a CDN server in Australia in the first instance, if you haven't already, try logging in to another region. If that is also grey then can look into what might be blocking your connection to the CDN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leila Refenoir Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 I am in South Africa. Tried different regions and same result. I like to test my situation with SL connections/servers. I done it before but forgotten the drill. Any ideas please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leila Refenoir Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 I am in South Africa. Tried different regions and same result. I like to test my situation with SL connections/servers. I done it before but forgotten the drill. Any ideas please? Downloaded Still not good and all grey and not able to rez properly. any suggestions please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollymews Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) right-click Windows Start button. Click Run from the menu. In the Run box type: cmd. This open the command prompt window then type: netstat gives list of attempts to establish a connection to an IP address using our computer ports. For a connection the state messages are. TIME_WAIT, CLOSE_WAIT and ESTABLISHED if for a connection you never get ESTABLISHED just TIME_WAIT and CLOSE_WAIT then the connection is wonky more here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/netstat then in the command prompt window to start troubleshooting then we use: tracert https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/tracert edit add: if this doesn't work out then get wireshark https://www.wireshark.org/ Edited April 16, 2020 by Mollymews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leila Refenoir Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 Thank you. 2020-04-10T18:39:41.540037 is what i downloaded. but it still not rez land and stuff. It soo disapointing. Tuesday, April 14, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leila Refenoir Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 Thank you soo much. I got ESTABLISHED. I now try and get a good connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma Krokus Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Hopefully you'll soon be joining us in SL again:) Edited April 16, 2020 by Emma Krokus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leila Refenoir Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 6:02 PM, Nalates Urriah said: We do need to know your computer specs. Use the viewer's HELP->About... to copy then paste here. Second Life Project Copypaste 6.3.5.533365 (64bit) Release Notes You are at 96.4, 119.1, 24.6 in Blue Water Cove located at sim10172.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.49.38:13016) SLURL: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Blue Water Cove/96/119/25 (global coordinates 166,240.0, 357,495.0, 24.6) Second Life Server 2020-04-10T18:39:41.540037 Release Notes CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz (2333.34 MHz) Memory: 8192 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 64-bit (Build 18363.778) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2 Windows Graphics Driver Version: 3.1.0.0 OpenGL Version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 436.30 Window size: 1920x1056 Font Size Adjustment: 96pt UI Scaling: 1 Draw distance: 64m Bandwidth: 3000kbit/s LOD factor: 1.125 Render quality: 0 Advanced Lighting Model: Disabled Texture memory: 512MB VFS (cache) creation time: April 16 2020 04:30:29 J2C Decoder Version: KDU v7.10.4 Audio Driver Version: FMOD Ex 4.44.64 Dullahan: 1.1.1320 / CEF: 3.3626.1895.g7001d56 / Chromium: 72.0.3626.121 LibVLC Version: 2.2.8 Voice Server Version: Vivox 4.10.0000.32327 Packets Lost: 97/15,728 (0.6%) April 16 2020 05:21:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leila Refenoir Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 Second Life Project Copypaste 6.3.5.533365 (64bit) Release Notes You are at 96.4, 119.1, 24.6 in Blue Water Cove located at sim10172.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.49.38:13016) SLURL: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Blue Water Cove/96/119/25 (global coordinates 166,240.0, 357,495.0, 24.6) Second Life Server 2020-04-10T18:39:41.540037 Release Notes CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz (2333.34 MHz) Memory: 8192 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 64-bit (Build 18363.778) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2 Windows Graphics Driver Version: 3.1.0.0 OpenGL Version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 436.30 Window size: 1920x1056 Font Size Adjustment: 96pt UI Scaling: 1 Draw distance: 64m Bandwidth: 3000kbit/s LOD factor: 1.125 Render quality: 0 Advanced Lighting Model: Disabled Texture memory: 512MB VFS (cache) creation time: April 16 2020 04:30:29 J2C Decoder Version: KDU v7.10.4 Audio Driver Version: FMOD Ex 4.44.64 Dullahan: 1.1.1320 / CEF: 3.3626.1895.g7001d56 / Chromium: 72.0.3626.121 LibVLC Version: 2.2.8 Voice Server Version: Vivox 4.10.0000.32327 Packets Lost: 97/15,728 (0.6%) April 16 2020 05:21:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leila Refenoir Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 10:35 AM, Anidusa Carolina said: I think it will be hard to tell what the reason is, as long as we do not know about your computer hardware. Me, personal, I did not use SL Viewer since 2010, I am on Firestorm since that time. Maybe you should check your viewer settings, they might be too high for your machine. Have you tried to play with them and see what happens at the lowest graphic settings? Anyway, without having some data, nobody will be able to analyse the problem. Second Life Project Copypaste 6.3.5.533365 (64bit) Release Notes You are at 96.4, 119.1, 24.6 in Blue Water Cove located at sim10172.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.49.38:13016) SLURL: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Blue Water Cove/96/119/25 (global coordinates 166,240.0, 357,495.0, 24.6) Second Life Server 2020-04-10T18:39:41.540037 Release Notes CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz (2333.34 MHz) Memory: 8192 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 64-bit (Build 18363.778) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2 Windows Graphics Driver Version: 3.1.0.0 OpenGL Version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 436.30 Window size: 1920x1056 Font Size Adjustment: 96pt UI Scaling: 1 Draw distance: 64m Bandwidth: 3000kbit/s LOD factor: 1.125 Render quality: 0 Advanced Lighting Model: Disabled Texture memory: 512MB VFS (cache) creation time: April 16 2020 04:30:29 J2C Decoder Version: KDU v7.10.4 Audio Driver Version: FMOD Ex 4.44.64 Dullahan: 1.1.1320 / CEF: 3.3626.1895.g7001d56 / Chromium: 72.0.3626.121 LibVLC Version: 2.2.8 Voice Server Version: Vivox 4.10.0000.32327 Packets Lost: 97/15,728 (0.6%) April 16 2020 05:21:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollymews Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 suggest you raise a Support ticket Leila in the ticket say that you are in South Africa and you are able to log in to Second Life, but are not able to connect to the CDN from your country. Include a copy of the gray image you posted here. And ask Support if the CDN that serves your country is working it may not be. And if so then Linden will get onto it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leila Refenoir Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 Thank you. I been told to try tracert. Not sure how to do that. did it way back when but forgotten. Also Support is as hidden as King Tut's tomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leila Refenoir Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Mollymews said: suggest you raise a Support ticket Leila in the ticket say that you are in South Africa and you are able to log in to Second Life, but are not able to connect to the CDN from your country. Include a copy of the gray image you posted here. And ask Support if the CDN that serves your country is working it may not be. And if so then Linden will get onto it Can't get "support". Also want to do a tracert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalates Urriah Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Support from the Lab is available here: https://support.secondlife.com/ @Leila Refenoir To test your connection to SL and do a tracert refer to my article: http://blog.nalates.net/2011/10/26/troubleshoot-your-sl-connection/ Your CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 is old. But, it has all the needed SSE extensions built in. SO, I think it is OK. The driver for your 760 card is a little out of date, 436.30 vs 436.48... probably not a problem. Try reducing your bandwidth setting from 3000 to 1500. That may help. Experiment with values down to 512. You have packet loss (0.6%), which isn't good but I don't think it is bad enough to disconnect you or stop texture downloads. Try pressing Ctrl-Shift-1 (press gain to cancel) so you can watch your PING and Packet Loss in real time. Packet loss is high during and immediately after login. You usually see less loss as time goes on. However, bursts of packet loss will disconnect you. But, textures are delivered using HTTP with error correction. Packet loss is only going to slow the texture download not block it completely. Keep this Viewer Stats panel open as you experiment with max bandwidth settings. See if a setting gives you less packet loss. I saw CDN mentioned. That could be a problem. You can look in the viewer's texture cache to see if anything is downloading. Look here: C:\Users\[login_ID]\AppData\Local\[Viewer_name]\texturecache. You should see some cache controls files with some size. If you look in the folders you should see lots of files. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anidusa Carolina Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 What Nalates said. Your computer is not the newest at all and an awesome performance in ultra is out of reach. But your hadware should easily be able to allow you rendering everything at middle graphics. It is very close to the computer I used half a year ago, and it was all fine on "middle". I hope you will get contact to the support and find a solution soon. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma Krokus Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I logged into the location posted in your computer specs and found it to be rather demanding in terms of rendering the environment. Perhaps you would try logging into a water sim region such as POOLEY or NORTHSKY CHANNEL where the demands are much lower... Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leila Refenoir Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share Posted April 17, 2020 thank you very much. you very kind. I got a ticket going with Linden. and i doing a tracert. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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