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19 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

Health insurance isn't part of the bill they're arguing over.  I was just adding some more info regarding what's happening in this Covid crisis. People die without health insurance when they can't pay for Covid treatment, or other health conditions.

Here are some of the other issues she's concerned about:

"As children return to schools, I have great concern over the Republicans' refusal to acknowledge the funding levels that experts and scientists tell us are needed for safe school reopening. They are also rejecting the funding needed for 14 million hungry children in America and rejecting funding for children's families for rental assistance when millions are at risk of eviction and homelessness,"

 

I'm just livid with  both sides using the people as bargaining chips like they are when they are needed most and then go on vacation or break again, this time for three weeks.. There is no making me see one side more bad than the other.. Dems won't give an inch and repubs are being cheap..

The two most important issues right now are unemployment and stimulus..Those are the real emergency issues that need to be dealt with right way, because it's going to go from a wound to fatal injury pretty quick..

Adding all this other stuff only put a halt to what is needed right now.. Stimulus got agreed to and unemployment got agreed to.. these other things are what is holding those up from going into action..

Those other things could be separated and voted on by themselves.. We needed the first two at the end of July..

 

They jumped to come out of vacation for the election with that postal bill ,but not for the people that are going to be voting in it..

I could not believe they voted down the unemployment and stimulus.. There is no making me see any good side in any of them now..

We're just chips on the table and all the pandering in the world will never change that..

 

ETA:Just going to add this,

I'm gonna jump out of here, because I'm gonna try to keep from letting this eat me up more than it already does.. I just really see them all for what they truly are and no amount of what is said in the media is going to change my mind about them.. I watched what they have done and they all make me sick..

I know the people renting in our houses are in good hands..wish I could say the that for the rest of those out there..

 

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33 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:

The two most important issues right now are unemployment and stimulus..Those are the real emergency issues that need to be dealt with right way, because it's going to go from a wound to fatal injury pretty quick..

Adding all this other stuff only put a halt to what is needed right now.. Stimulus got agreed to and unemployment got agreed to.. these other things are what is holding those up from going into action..

Those other things could be separated and voted on by themselves.. We needed the first two at the end of July.

the House passed a bill back in May that addressed the issues you have raised here.  The Senate Leader Mitch McConnell has yet to present it to the Senate. The Senate could have easily voted up or down on each of the components but it can't when Mr McConnell won't bring it to the floor to be voted on by the Senate

so is a little bit off to say that the House representatives are equally at fault here

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Just now, Mollymews said:

the House passed a bill back in May that addressed the issues you have raised here.  The Senate Leader Mitch McConnell has yet to present it to the Senate. The Senate could have easily voted up or down on each of the components but it can't when Mr McConnell won't bring it to the floor to be voted on by the Senate

so is a little bit off to say that the House representatives are equally at fault here

 I should have said the senate instead of congress, yes..

But, Isn't Nancy Pelosi, speaker of the house and not voting in the senate, yet negotiating on the bill to be voted on in the senate? I believe so..

It is not just the republicans holding things up.. you have one side asking for more and one side asking for less of what was voted on in the house..

They could separate those issues and vote on them separately, but they aren't.

The thing that gets at me is, they say it is a once in a century type of emergency, yet they are on vacation AGAIN, when needed most..

That's really where it eats at me most..

 

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1 hour ago, Ceka Cianci said:

 I should have said the senate instead of congress, yes..

But, Isn't Nancy Pelosi, speaker of the house and not voting in the senate, yet negotiating on the bill to be voted on in the senate? I believe so..

It is not just the republicans holding things up.. you have one side asking for more and one side asking for less of what was voted on in the house..

They could separate those issues and vote on them separately, but they aren't.

The thing that gets at me is, they say it is a once in a century type of emergency, yet they are on vacation AGAIN, when needed most..

That's really where it eats at me most..

 

in any other time previously what would happen is that the Senate would pass its own bill, and where there are discrepancies between two bills that have been passed independently by each then they go into a formal reconciliation process. Then out of the reconciliation, amendments go to both the House and the Senate for procedural votes and then passed to the President for signing. This is how it has worked pretty much since the founding of the US republic

there can be no formal reconciliation process if the Senate doesn't first vote.  The House will not ever in any circumstance send its own bill back to the House for amendment without the Senate first formally voting on it yea or nay

it works in the reverse as well.  The first stimulus package was initiated by the Senate and then sent to the House. The House voted on the Senate bill for some changes and it went to reconciliation. Out of which the changes were voted on affirmatively by both House and Senate and then went to the President for sign-off

the House Leader Nancy Pelosi can't do anything until the Senate Leader Mitch McConnell takes the bill to the Senate for a vote.  Mr McConnell keeps refusing to do this. He has said that he doesn't believe that a second stimulus package costing trillions more dollars is necessary

Mr McConnell can tho at any time introduce to the Senate a smaller more narrowly-targeted bill of his Senate Caucus design, but in doing so it opens the House bill up for introduction on to the floor of the Senate by any member of the Senate, which would require a yea or nay vote. Something that in an election year he Mr McConnell doesn't want to expose his Senate Caucus members too. A yea or nay vote on any more trillions of government spending. He does not believe that his Senate caucus would be united on such a vote

Ms Pelosi continues to tell Mr McConnell to do his job as Senate Leader, put the bill to the vote in the Senate, as he would normally do at any other time. For Mr McConnell to stop looking at November. As Senate Leader he has a duty to the nation no matter the possible/potential/maybe outcome of any future election

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41 minutes ago, Mollymews said:

in any other time previously what would happen is that the Senate would pass its own bill, and where there are discrepancies between two bills that have been passed independently by each then they go into a formal reconciliation process. Then out of the reconciliation, amendments go to both the House and the Senate for procedural votes and then passed to the President for signing. This is how it has worked pretty much since the founding of the US republic

there can be no formal reconciliation process if the Senate doesn't first vote.  The House will not ever in any circumstance send its own bill back to the House for amendment without the Senate first formally voting on it yea or nay

it works in the reverse as well.  The first stimulus package was initiated by the Senate and then sent to the House. The House voted on the Senate bill for some changes and it went to reconciliation. Out of which the changes were voted on affirmatively by both House and Senate and then went to the President for sign-off

the House Leader Nancy Pelosi can't do anything until the Senate Leader Mitch McConnell takes the bill to the Senate for a vote.  Mr McConnell keeps refusing to do this. He has said that he doesn't believe that a second stimulus package costing trillions more dollars is necessary

Mr McConnell can tho at any time introduce to the Senate a smaller more narrowly-targeted bill of his Senate Caucus design, but in doing so it opens the House bill up for introduction on to the floor of the Senate by any member of the Senate, which would require a yea or nay vote. Something that in an election year he Mr McConnell doesn't want to expose his Senate Caucus members too. A yea or nay vote on any more trillions of government spending. He does not believe that his Senate caucus would be united on such a vote

Ms Pelosi continues to tell Mr McConnell to do his job as Senate Leader, put the bill to the vote in the Senate, as he would normally do at any other time. For Mr McConnell to stop looking at November. As Senate Leader he has a duty to the nation no matter the possible/potential/maybe outcome of any future election

They would not agree to vote on them separately.. So now we have been stuck on this back and forth bickering ever since..

If they would have separated them and voted, we wouldn't be where we are now.. Then, only days after the deadline, they go on vacation..

Many want to make this a democrat vs republican good guys bad guys thing..

What needs to happen is, our elected officials need to set that crap to the side and do what they were elected to do.. Their jobs, rather than,omg we'll look like losers or weak  if we give in on this or give in on that..

They are putting their parties before the people.. yet still have time for going to the beach and margaritas for three weeks, unless there is some sort of emergency vote to be given for election purposes to save my own personal ass..

The worst time to have a pandemic in America is, an Election year..

 

 

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51 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:

What needs to happen is, our elected officials need to set that crap to the side and do what they were elected to do.. Their jobs, rather than,omg we'll look like losers or weak  if we give in on this or give in on that.

i agree. Elected representatives should do the job entrusted to them by the voters

the Senate has passed approx. 225 bills this session. The House has passed approx. 400

tweet from Senate Leader Mitch McConnell last year after his party had lost its majority in the House: "Let me be clear: I will be the 'grim reaper' in the Senate when it comes to socialist schemes that would destroy jobs, private health insurance, and the free enterprise system."

the House bill that contains what you want is one of the 175 bills still waiting for Mr McConnell to unreap. He might think that continuing State financial help to the deserving wage and salary earners (thru no fault of their own) such as yourself, your tenants and your neighbours is too socialist for his liking

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55 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:

They would not agree to vote on them separately

the job of the Senate Leader is to put the House bills to a vote in the Senate. So that the elected senators can do their jobs. And when the Senate votes yea or nay then it goes to reconciliation. On which, where Senate and House are in disagreement  (having actually voted their disagreements) can be split out and voted on separately

this is how the US republic system works. It doesn't work, it falls apart, when the Senate or House Leaders don't follow the rules

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59 minutes ago, Mollymews said:

the job of the Senate Leader is to put the House bills to a vote in the Senate. So that the elected senators can do their jobs. And when the Senate votes yea or nay then it goes to reconciliation. On which, where Senate and House are in disagreement  (having actually voted their disagreements) can be split out and voted on separately

this is how the US republic system works. It doesn't work, it falls apart, when the Senate or House Leaders don't follow the rules

Well, when they come off break, you can bet they all will be feeling the fire lit under all their asses to get it going..

I mean the leaders have been debating and going back and forth about adding and taking away from the second stim package for two months now..

They haven't been debating about nothing.

They all seem to play these stupid games rather than do their jobs it seems.. you have Mitch doing this and Pelosi doing the same thing with impeachment papers that she only had to walk down the hall to drop off..

Why don't they just move to Hollywood and live out the dream of an attention whore, rather than make us have to pay to sit through this crap?

 

I'll just be glad when they finally realize they are too damn old to be in there..Hopefully we get some good young bloods in there..

We so need an age cap on our government.. like 70 or something..

hehehehe

 

 

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Mask wearers are “dramatically less likely” to get a severe case of Covid-19
Monica Gandhi / Inverse / 8-30-2020

I am an infectious disease doctor and a professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco. As governments and workplaces began to recommend or mandate mask-wearing, my colleagues and I noticed an interesting trend. In places where most people wore masks, those who did get infected seemed dramatically less likely to get severely ill compared to places with less mask-wearing.

It seems people get less sick if they wear a mask.

When you wear a mask – even a cloth mask – you typically are exposed to a lower dose of the coronavirus than if you didn’t. Both recent experiments in animal models using coronavirus and nearly a hundred years of viral research show that lower viral doses usually means less severe disease.

No mask is perfect, and wearing one might not prevent you from getting infected. But it might be the difference between a case of Covid-19 that sends you to the hospital and a case so mild you don’t even realize you’re infected.

(full article here: https://www.inverse.com/mind-body/masks-breathing-in-less-coronavirus-means-you-get-less-sick

 

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Sending my 14 year old back to school today for the first time in 6 months feels like I have gone back 10 years to his first day 

Pencil case - check

Blazer arms too long - check

school pants a little too long - check

packed lunch - check

face mask and hand sanitiser - check 😷😮

 

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I knew there were some wild conspiracy theories out there, but had never really dug into the details of any.  Today, while skimming a news article, I read the below paragraph and was truly dumbfounded at just how far some people have gone with their wild ideas and stupidity.

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2 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

I knew there were some wild conspiracy theories out there, but had never really dug into the details of any.  Today, while skimming a news article, I read the below paragraph and was truly dumbfounded at just how far some people have gone with their wild ideas and stupidity.

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I had seen those as separate ideas, but hadn't seen all of them wrapped up together as one theory, and I just can't understand how people believe this kind of thing.

There are days when it's difficult to remain hopeful about the future.

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On 9/3/2020 at 2:38 PM, LittleMe Jewell said:

I knew there were some wild conspiracy theories out there, but had never really dug into the details of any.  Today, while skimming a news article, I read the below paragraph and was truly dumbfounded at just how far some people have gone with their wild ideas and stupidity.

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Can the chips run SL? If so, I struggle to see the downside. Absolutely immersive virtual reality on all senses. I'll be all over Gor with fart gas.

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On 9/3/2020 at 11:16 AM, Moira Timmerman said:

I had seen those as separate ideas, but hadn't seen all of them wrapped up together as one theory, and I just can't understand how people believe this kind of thing.

There are days when it's difficult to remain hopeful about the future.

When I was little, Dad told me a couple things that really stuck with me.

1) Don't worry about nuclear weapons, microbes will get us first.
2) You CAN fool all of the people all of the time. What you can't do is fool no one.

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14 minutes ago, Madelaine McMasters said:

When I was little, Dad told me a couple things that really stuck with me.

1) Don't worry about nuclear weapons, microbes will get us first.
2) You CAN fool all of the people all of the time. What you can't do is fool no one.

Hm. My dad always said, "You aren't fooling any one!" 

...sets Dad on fire

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25 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:
41 minutes ago, Madelaine McMasters said:

When I was little, Dad told me a couple things that really stuck with me.

1) Don't worry about nuclear weapons, microbes will get us first.
2) You CAN fool all of the people all of the time. What you can't do is fool no one.

Hm. My dad always said, "You aren't fooling any one!" 

...sets Dad on fire

Your dad's comment is actually in agreement with my father's. If you thought you were fooling anyone, you were at least fooling yourself.

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One of the vaccine trial participants in the UK developed a strange illness, so they had to pause...

 

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*** News story is true, photo is a joke...from the movie I Am Legend, where a vaccine went very, very wrong...

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