Gaming systems causing issues in businesses

[Lainey Thorne]

G'day,

I'm a club owner in SL and we are having issues with staff & patrons being attacked by players from Angel & Demons and for the past 2 weeks from Progeny. These gaming systems no longer respect business rules of no Role Play on the premises, instead they send other members and do it again. Last night after we banned several members that are part of Progeny they sent other members to continue the harassment & attacks on a DJ who was working, then they all piled in to the landing point, flooded the sim with particles and crashed the sim. This is the second week in a row that they have attacked working staff.

A few months ago we had a similar situation with Angels & Demons, I reached out to the person who was their liege and the game creators, they all responded with there's nothing we can do about how players use our game.

Even if I did contact the creators of Progeny it states in their manual  "But what if you don't like rules? Outside this tidy system of laws and civility live another kind of vampire, those who have chosen to live apart from the main society of Progeny....who have either been exiled from the community or have chosen to walk in the shadows, free of law and order...these are the 'Outcasts'...When a large group of Outcasts bands together they can apply to be granted the state of being a "Rogue House"...with their own set of rules."

Something needs to be done to protect businesses from these gaming systems. I was one of Sanctuary Rocks owner and I've owned Sanctuary of Rock since 2014 so we've seen all sorts of things that we've had to deal with to protect our business, staff and vips BUT these new gaming systems are refusing to even work with us to prevent these vicious attacks. I get it from their perspective they created the game and its up to the users how they play but at the same time business owners can do nothing to keep it out of their stores, clubs, etc.

One thing about Bloodlines their player almost always respected the no biting rule.

A friend of mine told me this "yes the game he plays, can be played anywhere. He had me come to Truth hair one day, and it was to show me that he and a bunch of others were up high "fighting" and they were. a whole big group of people flying around attacking each other."

What can we do to keep business safe from these kinds of attacks? Keep our staff able to do a 2 hour shift without being attacked while working? Keep anyone visiting free from attacks or harassment? If nothing is done to allow business to run smoothly and without attacks it will end up hurting all of Second Life if and when business owners close or leave SL. 

[DJxScotspaul]

If linden labs wont do anything to protect us then we will have to find other methods

IM Fed up with Progeny IDIOTS coming and harassing my vips

DO Something or there are other worlds we can take our business

Edited March 8, 2020 by DJxScotspaul

[Alwin Alcott]

as far i know you can only see a progeny attack had place if you'r in the game yourself, it's not needed to physically attack a avatar, it happens in silence and no real harm is done.

To the others, ban and eject.
 

11 minutes ago, Lainey Thorne said:

 Progeny they sent other members to continue the harassment & attacks on a DJ who was working, then they all piled in to the landing point, flooded the sim with particles and crashed the sim.

this doesn't sound like a vampire RP at all, but a "simple" griefing.. if you acted on some vampire RP ( what is your good right)  you might have made some enemies.

[Lainey Thorne]

They did the griefing as a response to the banning of their fellow players

[Alwin Alcott]

1 minute ago, Lainey Thorne said:

They did the griefing as a response to the banning of their fellow players

the region banning is a inter residential dispute, LL wont do a lot about it.
The griefing is reportable.

[Lainey Thorne]

so we as business owners and paying members of SL have no rights to protect our businesses? To let the these gamers take over the grid and do whatever they want ? Even when its affecting our business?

That's unacceptable and it shouldn't matter if staff and/or customers play the game outside our businesses.

We have a right to protect the place of business and anyone who enters one should be able to feel secure that its a safe place they don't have to worry about being attacked or their shopping, dancing, etc is disrupted by game play.

They have more rights than those of us who support the SL economy and try to have places to shop, listen to music, have fun and no drama. Isn't that what most of SL wants? Other then these game players who only disrupt and ruin why people are here in the first place?

Gotcha!

 

[Alwin Alcott]

10 minutes ago, Lainey Thorne said:

so ....

 

You come to the Answer section, here's no discussion, if you want that you have to post at the forums.
You got a answer with the most possible outcome, based on experience and best knowledge. If you don't trust it, contact support, not your fellow residents.

And i already said it was your right to ban them.

[Lainey Thorne]

NP Alwin...thank you for your response and I will definitely be following up and posting elsewhere, not because I don't trust what you've said. 

[Lindal Kidd]

You do have the right to protect your business.  You have been given eject and ban powers to enforce it.

Use them.

[Alwin Alcott]

20 minutes ago, DJxScotspaul said:

DO Something or there are other worlds we can take our business

start using the tools that are available for any landholder in SL.
Yes, move your business to other worlds ..problem is only there's nobody to come to it.

[xaniy]

Your staff who are in those system have the ability to be taken out for periods of time so they are not bothered..why are they not using that ?? And you staff has other options available to protect the land should they desire to do so within both systems...again..dont blame the players..blame your staff