Tolya Ugajin Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gadget Portal said: I suspect I am, because it seems contradictory to me to say "I wouldn't get rid of replies, I'd just make it so people don't reply". I'll also take a moment to expand upon my original point. I've always believed there's nothing wrong with being incorrect, mistaken, or even ignorant. Having someone helpfully and/or politely explain something can be a nice thing to experience. Simply clicking a negative button and moving on leaves that person with that incorrect information and they may even spread it to others. It's not contradictory to give someone an easier alternative to express disagreement. I also don't see a particular difference between a generic "like" and a generic "dislike". It's not saying "you have wrong information", it's saying "for whatever reason I do not like/agree with what you are saying." Similarly, the "like" button doesn't convey any more information than that, either, yet I don't see anyone suggesting we remove it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollymews Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Mollymews said: on my forum (if I had one) you could say anything hurtful about anyone anytime you like. I would just make you have to work for it i give a fuller contextual explanation of this. We are I think mostly (but not always) informed by the culture in which we live i am native tribal person. In our meeting house, everybody can stand and speak and say whatever they like, on a subject that the speaker wants to bring to the attention of the tribe in doing this tribal members can be very forthright in what they say, and how they say it. The etiquette is that the speaker is not talked over by anyone else - the speaker has the floor the speaker says openly to all present, what they want to be said in the manner they choose. The speaker alone is responsible for everything they say. On the basis that they would not have said what they did in the way they did, if they were not willing to accept the responsibility of their words and manner when that speaker is done then another will stand and speak either in support or against the subject matter. Or propose another path altogether which may lead to a resolution of a contentious issue this can get pretty rugged, harsh even, at times however, when a speaker is distressed or angry then is our responsibility to listen and try to understand, where their anger or distress is coming from. Which we can only do when the speaker articulates this emoting things from the sidelines like shouting "Rubbish", "Nonsense", "Get out of here" etc, will result in a cousin/family member of that person hauling them outside and dealing to them. Which can get pretty harsh as well sometimes got something to say then stand up and say it getting a little bit deeper. For there to be harmony in a tribe then dealing to a person - disciplining them for breaches of etiquette/custom - as a part of teaching the youngers the ways of the tribe, is the responsibility of that person's family. When the family refuses to do this then disharmony descends on the tribe. The elders of the person's family understand this and act accordingly with their person 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tolya Ugajin said: Similarly, the "like" button doesn't convey any more information than that, either, yet I don't see anyone suggesting we remove it. In RL when I agree, I say so. When I don’t agree I may tell them, but more often I just smile and say nothing. They get the point and we stay friends. I do that a lot these days. The forum is set up approximately like that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindal Kidd Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) In response to the general Trend of the Thread: If I were the Queen of the Forums, I'd add a Thumbs Up button. I think it's more descriptive in many cases than a simple "heart". I MIGHT consider a Thumbs Down button, but if Facebook et al. have decided that's a bad idea, maybe their experience merits careful consideration. I'd get rid of the Sad and Confused choices; I hardly ever use them myself and I think they are easier to misinterpret than the others. I like the idea of a Hug button! I think @Love Zhaoying's use of customized animal emoticons has been a very effective means of nonverbal communication. In response to the original Question: I click the Likey icons pretty frequently, but sometimes I feel I don't click them often enough, or consistently. For anyone who feels I've slighted them, click-wise, I'm sorry. I shall try to do better! In response to Beth, who said, "... These forums killed my fighting spirit and pretty much my will to live (as an avatar) " That makes me very sad. I hope your wounded feelings will recover soon. Edited January 29, 2020 by Lindal Kidd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 A hug is more versatile. It can be for when someone’s goldfish passes on or when someone has triplets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kali Wylder Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Beth Macbain said: These forums killed my fighting spirit and pretty much my will to live (as an avatar). awwww, sends a virtual hug 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Tolya Ugajin said: we don't seem to have paid "influencers" here OMG. What a fantastic idea! Now I know what I want to be when I grow up! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maitimo Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Pamela Galli said: How much do you click the reaction buttons? What makes you click or abstain? ETA If you could edit the buttons what would you do? I don't click a lot, except on the picture threads when I'm browsing at home on my PC (the reaction buttons are harder to use on a phone). And I will always give thanks if someone answers a question I've asked, or otherwise adds something helpful to something else I've written. There are two buttons I'd love to see added. One is Agree, because I often want to acknowledge that I agree with something even when I don't actually like it. The other is Hug. We REALLY need a Hug button. But I really don;' think a downvote or dislike button is a good idea. If you want to show that you dislike or disagree with something that someone said, you should at least be prepared to back up your opinon with reasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hexem Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, rasterscan said: I have to disagree sowwy buddy. Check the actual definition of the word. Unless you're omniscient, then you can disagree. Otherwise, I guarantee there's something out there that you're ignorant about. Edited January 29, 2020 by Gadget Portal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hexem Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Tolya Ugajin said: It's not contradictory to give someone an easier alternative to express disagreement. I also don't see a particular difference between a generic "like" and a generic "dislike". It's not saying "you have wrong information", it's saying "for whatever reason I do not like/agree with what you are saying." Similarly, the "like" button doesn't convey any more information than that, either, yet I don't see anyone suggesting we remove it. Pamela said it best. 2 hours ago, Pamela Galli said: In RL when I agree, I say so. When I don’t agree I may tell them, but more often I just smile and say nothing. They get the point and we stay friends. I do that a lot these days. The forum is set up approximately like that. If you agree, that means you don't have to offer a counter, you're on the same page. It's the same as saying "Yeah, that." If you disagree, it becomes a question of why. Disagreement requires accompanying explanation much more than agreement does. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolya Ugajin Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gadget Portal said: Pamela said it best. If you agree, that means you don't have to offer a counter, you're on the same page. It's the same as saying "Yeah, that." If you disagree, it becomes a question of why. Disagreement requires accompanying explanation much more than agreement does. Yes, but if the OP cares to know why, they are free to ask. When someone boos at a comic, they are not expressing what about the joke they disliked, and yet it is more effective than standing up and explaining. Sometimes registering simple displeasure is all one wishes to do. Fo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindal Kidd Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 43 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: OMG. What a fantastic idea! Now I know what I want to be when I grow up! You are already grown up. My gosh, Scylla...I just clicked on your "click bait" signature and visited your Flickr pages. What INCREDIBLE photos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow. Just wow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 35 minutes ago, Lindal Kidd said: You are already grown up. NO I AM NOT. *pouts* (And thank you!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bree Giffen Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Yes, I click on the reaction buttons. Sometimes if I don't want to post I'll just like the post that I think is the best response. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Tolya Ugajin said: It's not contradictory to give someone an easier alternative to express disagreement. I also don't see a particular difference between a generic "like" and a generic "dislike". It's not saying "you have wrong information", it's saying "for whatever reason I do not like/agree with what you are saying." Similarly, the "like" button doesn't convey any more information than that, either, yet I don't see anyone suggesting we remove it. I've decided we need a "WRONG, WRONG, TOTALLY WRONG!" button. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolya Ugajin Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: I've decided we need a "WRONG, WRONG, TOTALLY WRONG!" button. I do like pushing your buttons 😛 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tolya Ugajin said: I do like pushing your buttons 😛 Pffft. Poor deluded fool. It is *I* who have manipulated YOU! I knew you'd respond like that. Puppet! Bwahahahahah!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolya Ugajin Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 22 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Pffft. Poor deluded fool. It is *I* who have manipulated YOU! I knew you'd respond like that. Puppet! Bwahahahahah!! I always knew you were a top from the bottom kind of girl 😛 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I am pretty inconsistent in my use of reaction buttons, at least of positive ones, except on the picture threads (where I "like" pretty much everything). In principle, I think it's important to acknowledge people's contributions, especially when it is clear that they've put some thought into what they have said, or have put something on the line by saying it. If we really value this place as a community, and as a place where different perspectives and voices can come together, it's worthwhile to demonstrate that we are paying attention. I can see a real use for something like a "hug" button. I don't see a lot of legitimate purpose, myself, for the use of negative reaction buttons. Both the "confused" and "laugh" buttons are way too ambiguous. The "laugh" one, when used to signify "scorn," I find particularly unuseful, or even counterproductive. It's dismissive, and it signifies "superiority" without making the effort to earn it. If you are going to disagree with something, then at least have the basic courtesy to explain why. Otherwise, it's the internet version of saying "No! Because I said so." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tolya Ugajin said: I always knew you were a top from the bottom kind of girl 😛 We also need a "raised eyebrow" button. Edited January 29, 2020 by Scylla Rhiadra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McGregor Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: I can see a real use for something like a "hug" button. 2 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: We also need a "raised eyebrow" button. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McGregor Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 @Scylla Rhiadra : I fear a revival if you keep asking for all these buttons : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fauve Aeon Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 👁️👄👁️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 48 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: We also need a "raised eyebrow" button. AKA Stephen Colbert button. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, Pamela Galli said: AKA Stephen Colbert button. I think I'm much better looking than him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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