Belleza Freya Breast Bug (or short BBB)

[LynValentine]

It seems there is one Mesher out there running around who has a bug in ALL his creations (or its a group of Meshers who make all the same error, not impossible, but very unlikely).

There is a bug in these outfits and i saw it in like 20 to 30 meshes. Right now i saw it in a new outfit. I got me the demo of that outfit and the pasties of that outfit were floating like 5 cm in front of the nipples (thats like 2 inches). I'm sick of writing NC's to creators to tell them that they made a wonderful outfit, but sadly the Freya version has a bug and that they can't sell a outfit with such a bug (well, they can, but that would be bad for their reputation if they would sell that version even if they know about this bug).

If you are a Mesher and you create meshes for Belleza Freya then please check if your meshes have that bug (if there is a gap between the nipples and you mesh that is big enough to put a hand or a fist or even Hannibals Army including the elephants into that gap then your meshes have that bug).

This happens only with Belleza Freya as far as i know (if you change your shape to breast size 0 you look like you would have breast size 30, with breast size 70 you look like you would have breast size 100 and with 100 (that is what i use) you look like you have a breast size of 130....it looks ridiculous).

I know only one Mesher personally and she does not make meshes for Freya, so i can only ask here that all Meshers that might read this check their meshes for that gap or maybe if you know some Mesher ask him/her if he/she could check if the meshes that they created have that gap.

 

Edited December 24, 2019 by LynValentine
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[ChinRey]

30 minutes ago, LynValentine said:

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floating like 5 cm in front of the nipples

5 cm??? That's a big bug! Not a world record though. The giant waterbug can be more than 12 cm and there are other insects (not strictly bugs) that are even bigger.

Edited December 24, 2019 by ChinRey

[ChinRey]

23 minutes ago, LynValentine said:

There is a bug in these outfits and i saw it in like 20 to 30 meshes.

Are they all pasties? If so, they are probably made from the same template. If they are different, they are probably made from templates of the same brand.

Only a few brands that make their own fitted meshes, most buy ready made full pem templates and just texture them. To see who actually made the mesh (or at least who uploaded it), right-click on it and select Edit, then check the "Edit linked" checkbox and click on the actual mesh.

[LynValentine]

Its not only pasties, i see this bug in bras, bikinis, dresses and so on and i see this bug since 2 or 3 years.

[OptimoMaximo]

A software bug is an error, flaw or fault in a computer program or system that causes it to produce an incorrect or unexpected result, or to behave in unintended ways. What you call "bug" there is not, since who made those clothes either overlooked the thing or wasn't able to rig it any better, and the behavior is not appearing out of nowhere through reproducible steps, it's not unexpected nor unwanted as it was there in the first place even before upload. If it looked fine until you did X and Y actions to make it happen, that would be a bug. The fact that it looks bad and shouldn't be like that doesn't make it a bug. 

Secondly, "mesher" is not a word, a person producing mesh models is a modeler. 

[LynValentine]

4 hours ago, OptimoMaximo said:

A software bug is an error, flaw or fault in a computer program or system that causes it to produce an incorrect or unexpected result, or to behave in unintended ways. What you call "bug" there is not, since who made those clothes either overlooked the thing or wasn't able to rig it any better, and the behavior is not appearing out of nowhere through reproducible steps, it's not unexpected nor unwanted as it was there in the first place even before upload. If it looked fine until you did X and Y actions to make it happen, that would be a bug. The fact that it looks bad and shouldn't be like that doesn't make it a bug. 

Secondly, "mesher" is not a word, a person producing mesh models is a modeler. 

What you say would be true if it happens only one time or if the modeler (i still assume its only one modeler and not a group) would do this on purpose (why would he do that? Does he hate the Freya body or what?). But this happens since years and apparently with all models of him (i even saw it once in a model that was first available for Maitreya only and later the Freya version with that "bug" was being added). To me this looks like someone is using numbers only instead of the real body (to check if the fitmesh really fits as it should). This means it IS a bug or error, not in the model but in the head of the modeler.

 

Secondly, just because you don't know a word that doesn't mean this does not exist. I came from IMVU and the modeler that i know in SL came from IMVU too and she calls herself to be a "Mesher" (just like all modeler there do and the creators there say that they buy meshes), so for me "Mesher" is a word and i couldn't care less if its not a word for you (and apparently you did understand what i meant when i used the word "Mesher", so where is the problem exactly?).

 

[ChinRey]

2 hours ago, LynValentine said:

What you say would be true if it happens only one time or if the modeler (i still assume its only one modeler and not a group)

It may be several modellers because they do talk with each other and exchange experiences. The only way to be sure is to check who is listed as creator of the different meshes.

 

3 hours ago, LynValentine said:

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would do this on purpose (why would he do that? Does he hate the Freya body or what?).

The most likely reason is that they don't have access to the developer kit and had to figure out the rigging by trial and error.

[Kyrah Abattoir]

On 12/24/2019 at 4:10 PM, ChinRey said:

The most likely reason is that they don't have access to the developer kit and had to figure out the rigging by trial and error.

I can see a few possibilities in that vein yeah.

• Item supports several bodies and was only "loosely" adjusted for each body (because supporting multiple bodies is a ridiculous amount of work if you want to do it properly).
• Bad devkit/no devkit (trial and error?).
• Bad fitmesh rigging (I wouldn't be surprised if some creators didn't check with multiple body shapes when they setup their work for fitmesh), so it looks fine on the default shape and the more you move away from it, the worse it gets.

[Lucia Nightfire]

1 hour ago, Kyrah Abattoir said:

I can see a few possibilities in that vein yeah.

• Item supports several bodies and was only "loosely" adjusted for each body (because supporting multiple bodies is a ridiculous amount of work if you want to do it properly).
• Bad devkit/no devkit (trial and error?).
• Bad fitmesh rigging (I wouldn't be surprised if some creators didn't check with multiple body shapes when they setup their work for fitmesh), so it looks fine on the default shape and the more you move away from it, the worse it gets.

• "Creator" gets their Belleza "devkit" from the black market and discrepancies between the modeler/version originally used and the "creator's" modeler/version cause anomalies which the "creator" can't verify since they never purchased licensed devkit nor the body and just release without knowing/caring.

[Aethelwine]

Maybe they are rigged for one of the different boob shapes, or if I recall correctly back in the early days Belleza did an update to their rigging that broke previous clothes made for the body... maybe the mesh template was bought before then and the maker using it never realised.