KittyCharming Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) Hi all, I was using lelutka head (Chloe) for long time and never had any problem. To be honest I chose lelutka mainly for one reason - because it could work with maitreya body ideally and I would have av without damned neck seam. Now, I suddenly looked at my av and saw it HAS a seam. it is like neck "fix" maitreya uses, but smaller. I've tried to disable it, but without any success. Is it possible that new head have defect older ones had not? Edited December 5, 2019 by KittyCharming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeljane42 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Lelutka heads don't have their own neck "fix" whatsoever, so no, it can't be it. New heads are fine as well, only thing that changed in 3.4 update was BoM. Possible reason: you're wearing some other neck fix, I believe genus heads and some bodies have one as a separate attachment - check what you have on now. Ideally just remove everything, then wear maitreya body and lelutka head and see if it's still there. If it is, double check maitreya's neck fix is off by turning it on/off (and see if it changes anything at all). Make sure maitreya's neck size is set to 5 in hud. You can also try to repair materials and transparency in lelutka hud (the settings tab). If it still doesn't help, go grab a redelivery for both, body and head and see if you see this issue on new items (again, wear nothing, but body and head), try with default skins first, then apply yours. If yes, then perhaps it's on your side, you can try to ask some friend to check if they see it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seicher Rae Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 There is a neck fix and also a neck size/body fat on Maitreya. Look at the size and see if that got tweaked out of setting. Also, even on the best of fits there are some windlights that just give you a neck seam. Try another WL (or five) and see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claireschen Hesten Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Try toggling on/off the neck fix in the Maitreya HUD and trying all the neck sizes in the HUD i can't remember the exact size i use on my Chloe other than it's not the largest size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyCharming Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 Ok, I removed all pieces of outfit (even hairs) and set light to neutral. As you can see neck seam is clearly visible. The only thing that I changed - I am using glamaffair's old applier as new one (with more colors) do not match maitreya body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Voxel Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Just my opinion, but that neck seam is more than acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyCharming Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 I paid more than 30 k for this avatar and either it is IDEAL or it is a piece of... you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claireschen Hesten Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 My eyes must be going bad i can't see a seam at all. If you previously used a Glam Affair system skin you could always give BoM a shot just take off the head alpha or wear the eye only alpha if you use mesh eyes and click BoM on the HUD and see what that does to the seam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyCharming Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 I was using glam affair's skin that came with head and body and they were matching perfectly. Then lelutka released new version with more colors, which are not compatible with maitreya standard palette - and they released also a thing called "glam afair applier (older version)" - I am using this one. I never messed with BoM and not going to do it. Click the image and you will see full size and there is visible seam. Old version of head had no seam, new one - has it. That's the whole problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyCharming Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 UPDATE: I rezzed old version of lelutka head (3.0) and maitreya 4.1. I must admit - there is clear seam: Can not understand why I did not notice it earlier. Topic is closed. I hate SL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyCharming Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 UPDATE: I experimented and found out that seam is practically invisible on smaller monitors. Unfortunately it is clearly visible on 43 inch ones. SL meshes are too low poly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyona Su Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, KittyCharming said: UPDATE: I rezzed old version of lelutka head (3.0) and maitreya 4.1. I must admit - there is clear seam: Can not understand why I did not notice it earlier. Topic is closed. I hate SL. It is literally impossible to eliminate the neck seam when the head and body creators are different people, unless they use the exact same 3D modeling file with the exact same textures with zero differences and upload both into SL at the same time. The best elimination of neck seams is to set your Windlight to calWL or turn off materials and basic shaders. But this will only ever work for you because everyone uses different windlight setting and some (like myself) prefer to just go with region windlight and day-cycles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orwar Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alyona Su said: The best elimination of neck seams is to set your Windlight to calWL or turn off materials and basic shaders. But this will only ever work for you because everyone uses different windlight setting and some (like myself) prefer to just go with region windlight and day-cycles. Or getting a dom/me who puts a tall posture collar on you! Jokes aside, we can never control how our avatars will be perceived by others, due to differences in graphic settings and what windlights people use. The neck seam is a thing, unless you get a body with the head attached to it, and has had the skin texture exported along with the UV from the mesh creation program. Everyone has them, some more noticeable than others, but it's just something we'll have to accept as part of the SL reality. For photography, editing them is a breeze, and they can easily be concealed through the use of accessories if so desired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakotah Skydancer Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 I have the Wade head which I absolutely love but when he dances or anytime there's lots of head movement the little black box pokes out the back of his head. Can anything be done about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeljane42 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Dakotah Skydancer said: I have the Wade head which I absolutely love but when he dances or anytime there's lots of head movement the little black box pokes out the back of his head. Can anything be done about this? It's probably either your system hair or the root prim of something else you're wearing. If it's the former, then edit your "brows shape", which is default/system hair. Move all hair sliders in the styles tab to zero, change hair texture to the "transparent". Alternatively wear a brows shape that came with your Lelutka head in the folder, they have it all adjusted already, then adjust actual brows from the eyebrows tab there to how you want them to look like. If it's the latter, then check what else you're wearing and either make that object's root prim transparent if it's mod, or remove it completely if it's not. Edited June 2, 2023 by steeljane42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 On the HUD, in the Animation section, switch the head bone movement off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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